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The Bots' base is gone, no GroundBridge, Magnus is here, Optimus has new duds and abilities, the government's become more involved and proactive in stopping the Decepticons, Shockwave's here, Predaking's on Earth (you don't really think he's gonna stay frozen forever, do you?), the Cons have access to Shockwave's experiments...PrymeStriker wrote:This episode (Yeah, I know I'm a week late) was one big status quo reset. I thought the writers said that status quo wouldn't be an issue this season. All of the Autobots are back together and Darkmount has collapsed within four episodes. That's how long it took Bulkhead to recover from what should've been a paralyzing shot in the back.![]()
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:The Bots' base is gone, no GroundBridge, Magnus is here, Optimus has new duds and abilities, the government's become more involved and proactive in stopping the Decepticons, Shockwave's here, Predaking's on Earth (you don't really think he's gonna stay frozen forever, do you?), the Cons have access to Shockwave's experiments...PrymeStriker wrote:This episode (Yeah, I know I'm a week late) was one big status quo reset. I thought the writers said that status quo wouldn't be an issue this season. All of the Autobots are back together and Darkmount has collapsed within four episodes. That's how long it took Bulkhead to recover from what should've been a paralyzing shot in the back.![]()
Yep, exactly like the pre-season 3 status quo.
njb902 wrote:Hey at least Soundwave is the same
Twitchythe3rd wrote:Each of them fit into an archetype filled by an Autobot opposite.
Ripclaw - Arcee
Grimwing - Bulkhead
Skystalker - Smokescreen
Laserback - Bumblebee
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
PrymeStriker wrote:Twitchythe3rd wrote:Each of them fit into an archetype filled by an Autobot opposite.
Ripclaw - Arcee
Grimwing - Bulkhead
Skystalker - Smokescreen
Laserback - Bumblebee
It wouldn't (actually, it would considering the crap-toll the season has been taking thus far) surprise me if they mutated the Autobot counterparts into the Predacons. Then again, that's a waste of CGI, as they'd be back on the side of good by the end of the 22 minutes.
My money's on Lazerback appearing for the most part. All the others have okay to no chances in the series as far as I'm concerned. Also, you forgot about Vertebreak.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:* Enter Shockwave.
* He is definitely not a good guy.
Not like he really did much of a good job at it, what with Cybertron being deader than dead (all thanks to his master, whom he loyally helped kill the planet).Henry921 wrote:The guy who prioritizes the health and safety of Cybertron above all else is not a good guy?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:4. After Optimus rammed Megatron over the side of the cliff and leaped down to slam on top of him, the bit of Optimus revving the tires on his leg in Megatron's face, and Megatron grabbing Optimus by the face to throw him off of him, were cut, making it look like Megatron just swatted Prime away after he landed on Megs.
I am talking about the game. In there, he's a loyal Con whom Megatron appreciates, and when Megatron infected the planet, Shockwave did not object.Henry921 wrote:Maybe I'm biased towards the video game interpretation there; it's how High Moon Studios described him.
I don't know what it says about Shocky in the Binder of Revelation, but his characterization in the TV show is mostly about scientific research and pointing out whether things are logical or not. His toy bio is frustratingly vague and his included fiction is all about swaying the Predacons to his side. It's not a lot to go on.
With that characterization, I'd still say a guy who basically just lives to further scientific knowledge -regardless of unneeded scruples like 'morality'- is not a villain.
From what I've seen of the show, Megatron's the only true villain, which makes his backstory as a fallen political hero all the more tragic.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I am talking about the game. In there, he's a loyal Con whom Megatron appreciates, and when Megatron infected the planet, Shockwave did not object.
He still didn't show any objections towards Megatron despite Megatron having infected the core, which had become public knowledge by the point of the FOC's point in time.Henry921 wrote:In Fall of Cybertron he was searching for an Energon supply to reboot the core of Cybertron. After Starscream wasted it all, Shockwave charted a course to Earth with a space bridge so he could use the natural energy sources there to restore the planet. As Megatron was the only one who could control the Dark Energon and had previously used it to empower the Decepticons, it's possible Shockwave didn't know what it did until AFTER the planet had been corrupted, or that he thought he could reverse the damage after the fact.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:[stuff]
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Sabrblade wrote:He still didn't show any objections towards Megatron despite Megatron having infected the core, which had become public knowledge by the point of the FOC's point in time.
It was kinda like he was like "You ruined our homeworld, but I still hail you with all my spark."
Henry921 wrote:Well, yeah, because while Cybertron's core WAS poisoned, it was still active. Optimus and his team were the ones who shut it down, not Megatron.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Shadowman wrote:Active...but spreading Dark Energon everywhere. Optimus didn't shut down the core, either, it shut itself down after Optimus stopped it from being fed Dark Energon.
And no, Shockwave is not a good guy by any stretch of the imagination. Experimenting on live, unwilling test subjects isn't exactly "good guy" behavior.
Wouldn't have had to have been shut off if Megs hadn't messed with it.Henry921 wrote:As for the core, from the Decepticon perspective, things were fine and dandy until Optimus went down there, and suddenly the energon stopped flowing. Sure there was Dark Energon pouring through the planet, but the 'Cons themselves had received a power boost from it.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Henry921 wrote:Like I said, everything for the betterment of scientific knowledge, without scruples like "morality".
Henry921 wrote:As for the core, from the Decepticon perspective, things were fine and dandy until Optimus went down there, and suddenly the energon stopped flowing. Sure there was Dark Energon pouring through the planet, but the 'Cons themselves had received a power boost from it.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Henry921 wrote:Like I said, everything for the betterment of scientific knowledge, without scruples like "morality".
...that doesn't make him good, "no morality" is the definition of evil.
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