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by **Gutter Bunny** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:20 pm

Original Sin wrote:I'm talking about backstage. He bitches constantly. And last time I checked Jericho was the first undisputed champion, he beat The Rock and Stone Cold Steve Austin. Both of which are far better then Khali and Big Show.

Do you really want to explain the difference between on-stage and back-stage to some of the people in this thread?

crushing the dreams of marks everywhere

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:23 pm

Gutter Bunny wrote:
Original Sin wrote:I'm talking about backstage. He bitches constantly. And last time I checked Jericho was the first undisputed champion, he beat The Rock and Stone Cold Steve Austin. Both of which are far better then Khali and Big Show.

Do you really want to explain the difference between on-stage and back-stage to some of the people in this thread?

crushing the dreams of marks everywhere

My point is, Goldust and Jericho > Batista

by **Neo God Ginrai** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:30 am

I'm glad to see Goldust back, he was always one of my favorites. He's a good wrestler and he pulls his gimmick well.

Hopefully they'll keep him around for a while.

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:49 am

Evan Bourne/Matt Sydal whatever you want to call him is out for up to four months :-(

Scott Hall tried committing suicide last week and was hospitalized :-(

Perry Saturn is missing and some people think he's dead :-(

But good news! Kevin Thorn posted a blog saying he is trying to keep the vampire gimmick(god I hope he does) and teases a possible return soon with a stable!!!

I wish I knew how long his hair was now though.

More good news, Orton has been cleared to wrestle.

So far nothing in wrestling this week has been able to match the excitement and drama of the tag match from Raw though. I haven't been that happy for a title change since Jericho won the title at Unforgiven.

I really wish Rhodes and Dibiase's look would change. They are so boring and mundane. Dibiase is way to talented to look like he walked off the jobber assembly line.

Goldust's wig just looks odd to me. I hope he comes back in full force with the giant robe and everything.

by **Gutter Bunny** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:57 am

Original Sin wrote:Evan Bourne/Matt Sydal whatever you want to call him is out for up to four months

Original Sin wrote:So far nothing in wrestling this week has been able to match the excitement and drama of the tag match from Raw though. I haven't been that happy for a title change since Jericho won the title at Unforgiven.

and ofcourse, i missed raw this week

Original Sin wrote:More good news, Orton has been cleared to wrestle.

Best news you've ever given me

that is all

by **Tough Scorponok** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:29 pm

Original Sin wrote:
Tough Scorponok wrote:UMMmmm...Cry Baby Battista?. Havent You noticed that it seems more to me, that Jericho is the one, Crying, Bitchin and complaining, that how poor he is, and he always get screwed by everybody. Meanwhile Battista comes out, gets the job done, is Popular, and Good on the Mike. I havent seen Jericho fight anyone of battista's caliber. Jericho havent beat Great Khali, or Big Show, or Undertaker. Or if he did, he never vent toe to toe with any of them.

I'm talking about backstage. He bitches constantly. And last time I checked Jericho was the first undisputed champion, he beat The Rock and Stone Cold Steve Austin. Both of which are far better then Khali and Big Show.

When was last time You checked?. Jericho beat Stone Cold and Rock, but that was 8 years ago. 8 years is a long time.In short time, Battista beat Triple H, beat Undertaker, Kane on several occasions, Khali, Jericho, CM Punk, Goldberg, Mark Henry.....Need to continue?. LOL. Jericho seems like all he does is Whine, when it comes to get the job done, he constantly comes out short.

News Credits: 56 · by **BlackMagnus** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:09 pm

Tough Scorponok wrote:In short time, Battista beat Goldberg

Never happened.

by **Gutter Bunny** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:06 am

BlackMagnus wrote:
Tough Scorponok wrote:In short time, Battista beat Goldberg

Never happened.

erm... a)I'll admit that i haven't watched every single match, but wasn't Goldberg long gone by the time Batista debuted?

b) hornswoggle could beat Batista if they wanted him to... :twisted:

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:29 am

Gutter Bunny wrote:
BlackMagnus wrote:
Tough Scorponok wrote:In short time, Battista beat Goldberg

Never happened.

erm... a)I'll admit that i haven't watched every single match, but wasn't Goldberg long gone by the time Batista debuted?

Goldberg feuded with Evolution.

I don't know if Batista and Batista ever fought one on one though. I know Goldberg beat Triple H and if I remember right, Triple H is the only one he fought.

Well, besides in the elimination chamber when he fought Orton too

by **Tough Scorponok** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:55 am

No, it was Battista that Eliminated Goldberg. I admit, he used a chair, and after all it was Evolution that mess up Goldberg's leg. But in the End it was Battista who got the 100.000$ Bounty for getting rid of Goldberg. Whether the money changed hands or not.It was Triple H's own Money. Supposingly.

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:45 am

I know there was a handicapped match with Triple H, Randy Orton, and Batista against Goldberg. But that's not really a fair fight...

There was also a match between Goldberg and Shawn Michaels where Batista did a run in and attacked Goldberg. Still not beating him in a match...

***EDIT***

From obsessedwithwrestling.com

WORLD TITLE MATCH: Bill Goldberg vs Shawn Michaels..

* Goldberg hits a big slam, and sets up for the spear but misses and hit’s the referee!
* Shawn Michaels hits the superkick and both men are down and out..
* Batista appears and pulls Shawn Michaels out of the ring and lays him out!
* Batista enters the ring and beats the crap out of Bill Goldberg..
* Batista put Bill Goldberg's ankle between a folding chair and smashes it off the second ropes!
* Evolution comes down the ramp and delivers the $100,000 to Batista for taking out Goldberg!

by **Tough Scorponok** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:33 pm

I gree with OS. But when did Jericho ever got 100 000$ for anything?. So he beat Rock and Stone Cold , 8 years ago to be Undisputed Champion. Every time he wrestles seems like he comes Out Short. And all this whinning and Bitchin on the mike. Everytime Jericho comes out, I go take a leak, and go to the kitchen to get some snacks. He is Boring.

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:06 pm

The bounty wasn't real. It was a story line.

And that was 5 years ago. If me using Jericho beating the Rock and Stone Cold can't be used because its 6 years old then you can't use that :wink:

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:57 pm

Tough Scorponok wrote:And all this whinning and Bitchin on the mike.

It's what heels do!

by **Gutter Bunny** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:55 pm

Original Sin wrote:Goldberg feuded with Evolution.

I don't know if Batista and Batista ever fought one on one though. I know Goldberg beat Triple H and if I remember right, Triple H is the only one he fought.

Well, besides in the elimination chamber when he fought Orton too

I stand corrected...I think i've blocked any and all things Goldberg from my mind.

Kinda like how I only remember Lesnar for landing on his head.

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:57 pm

I miss Goldberg in all honesty. Well, WCW Goldberg. There hasn't been a wrestler since him to have so many fans chanting their name. Cena has half the crowd booing him so that doesn't count.

The Hardys are about the closest thing these days

News Credits: 56 · by **BlackMagnus** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:09 pm

Gutter Bunny wrote:
Original Sin wrote:Goldberg feuded with Evolution.

I don't know if Batista and Batista ever fought one on one though. I know Goldberg beat Triple H and if I remember right, Triple H is the only one he fought.

Well, besides in the elimination chamber when he fought Orton too

I stand corrected...I think i've blocked any and all things Goldberg from my mind.

Kinda like how I only remember Lesnar for landing on his head.

Well I'll be damned, corrected here as well.

Don't forget about those chair shots that Brock took from the Hardy's, that was damn cool too.

by **Jazz Reborn** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:41 am

Jimmy Wang Yang changed his name. Usually when there's a name change there's a gimmick change. Even though he lost to Kendrick, at least Yang is part of a script now....I think.

by **Gutter Bunny** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:05 am

Original Sin wrote:I miss Goldberg in all honesty. Well, WCW Goldberg. There hasn't been a wrestler since him to have so many fans chanting their name. Cena has half the crowd booing him so that doesn't count.

The Hardys are about the closest thing these days

yet they don't seem to want to give either of them the WHC or WWE belt...i never claimed to understand the thought process.

and wcw goldberg...eww
walk out, throw fists in the air, hit self, scream, spear, jack hammer, ding ding, zzzzz

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:01 am

jazz reborn wrote:Jimmy Wang Yang changed his name. Usually when there's a name change there's a gimmick change. Even though he lost to Kendrick, at least Yang is part of a script now....I think.

It aired on Halloween, his name was John Wayne Yang. It was just his Halloween costume.

Gutter Bunny wrote:
Original Sin wrote:I miss Goldberg in all honesty. Well, WCW Goldberg. There hasn't been a wrestler since him to have so many fans chanting their name. Cena has half the crowd booing him so that doesn't count.

The Hardys are about the closest thing these days

yet they don't seem to want to give either of them the WHC or WWE belt...i never claimed to understand the thought process.

and wcw goldberg...eww
walk out, throw fists in the air, hit self, scream, spear, jack hammer, ding ding, zzzzz

You saying that makes me believe you've never seen Goldberg in a main event match. His matches with Sting, Hogan, Nash, DDP etc etc were actually good matches.

by **Jazz Reborn** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:28 am

Original Sin wrote:
jazz reborn wrote:Jimmy Wang Yang changed his name. Usually when there's a name change there's a gimmick change. Even though he lost to Kendrick, at least Yang is part of a script now....I think.

It aired on Halloween, his name was John Wayne Yang. It was just his Halloween costume.

...Oh. Aaaww, I was hoping for him to be slightly important.

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:42 am

I think him and Kendrick will have another match next week. That or a tag match with Kendrick and Big Zeke against Yang and someone else.

by **Gutter Bunny** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:28 pm

Original Sin wrote:
You saying that makes me believe you've never seen Goldberg in a main event match. His matches with Sting, Hogan, Nash, DDP etc etc were actually good matches.

meh, like i said...i blocked most of Goldberg out of my memory. I think I was ruined on him by his 20000000-0 winning streak at the beginning(yes that's an exaggeration). Maybe I'll go play on youtube on my day off.

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:30 pm

So, random question for everyone. Who do you think is the biggest heel of all time?

My vote is going to Hollywood Hogan. When he turned on Sting, Luger, Savage, and WCW as a whole, it literally changed the face of the wrestling world.

by **Gutter Bunny** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:24 am

Original Sin wrote:So, random question for everyone. Who do you think is the biggest heel of all time?

My vote is going to Hollywood Hogan. When he turned on Sting, Luger, Savage, and WCW as a whole, it literally changed the face of the wrestling world.

I tend to agree with you(yes, i'm taking the easy route instead of trying to find an obscure reason as to why it should be taker...although i loved him as a heal when he debuted). Hogan was a superstar built around being a face, so to have him go heal in wcw was a great move. The charisma he brought to the ring was amazing and for him to do it as a heal seemed at the time unheard of(at least to me)

although sting as a heal will be fun also even though the MEM doesn't hold as much bearing in my mind as the NWO.

Orton is my favorite currently...everybody else just seems to fluctuate too much. I'm a face, i'm a heal, i'm a face again...meh