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News Credits: 1646 · Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:13 pm

Hmm, not too sure what to think of that.

Death Star wreckage? Brilliant, I love that idea!

The Emperors laugh gave me a brief chill.

But the name is.... dumb. And after 8, I'm not too thrilled. I didn't like 8 much at all.

News Credits: 22 · Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:44 am

During the fight between Palpatine and Mace Windu in episode 3 did the emperor get disfigured or was his true appearance revealed?

Do you refer to the new movies as the sequel trilogy or the Disney trilogy? Or something else?

News Credits: 1350 · Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:54 am

I think they are supposed to be referred to as the sequel trilogy.

News Credits: 41 · Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:25 am

Roddy, I always saw it as Palpatine used it as an excuse to reveal his true appearance. I bet it took a lot of Force to conjure that "mask".

I may not be all that excited for Despise of the Skywalker, but you know what I am damn excited about?

THIS!

Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:59 am

Cobotron wrote:Roddy, I always saw it as Palpatine used it as an excuse to reveal his true appearance. I bet it took a lot of Force to conjure that "mask".

Cob, that’s a really cool angle that I never thought about. I’m going to accept it now as the canon I never new I needed!

Speaking of ol’ Papa Palpatine, y’all see that new Black Series figure of him with his Death Star Throne? Isn’t that thing just the coolest?

Man I hope The Mandalorian is cool. It has the potential to be as good as Rogue One, I just hope it’s better than Agents of SHIELD. With John Favreau, Dave Filoni, AND Taika Waitit, I’m sure it will be.

News Credits: 4877 · Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:07 am

I am really confused. They cancel a bobba fett movie, something everyone wanted (cancelled an amazing looking game too but thats another thing). And yet they greenlight a show about a bounty hunter who has the same armour, what gives?

Also, I always thought that with palpatine, he was trading his youth for power. Like how magic always has a cost, or one of those faustian deals. He grew more powerful but it drained his lifeforce and made him age tremendously inorder to release all that power. that power did of course subsequently leave him alive for a long time, but always looking like that.

Honestly, I always felt that was something really dumb in the prequels. When we see him as a younger man we are all thinking, makes sense this is him young and later he is old. he would just age into looking older later (like Obi Wan, Greedo, Darth Vader, Luke, ect). That would have made perfect sense. But no, Lucas wanted us to end right up to where we begin in a new hope as much as possible even if there was still 18 years till we get there.

News Credits: 1350 · Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:17 am

william-james88 wrote:I am really confused. They cancel a bobba fett movie, something everyone wanted (cancelled an amazing looking game too but thats another thing). And yet they greenlight a show about a bounty hunter who has the same armour, what gives?

Also, I always thought that with palpatine, he was trading his youth for power. Like how magic always has a cost, or one of those faustian deals. He grew more powerful but it drained his lifeforce and made him age tremendously inorder to release all that power. that power did of course subsequently leave him alive for a long time, but always looking like that.

Honestly, I always felt that was something really dumb in the prequels. When we see him as a younger man we are all thinking, makes sense this is him young and later he is old. he would just age into looking older later (like Obi Wan, Greedo, Darth Vader, Luke, ect). That would have made perfect sense. But no, Lucas wanted us to end right up to where we begin in a new hope as much as possible even if there was still 18 years till we get there.

The thing with the games is why ea should be stripped of the licence for the games. The new one looks cool but I'm expecting them not to learn their lessons from the horrendous battlefront games.

News Credits: 1646 · Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:26 pm

I've always thought that Palpatine could use the darkside to stay young and keep a consistent look, but he was damaged by the Sith Lightning pushback from Windu, which is something he couldn't repair, but he could maintain.

Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:15 pm

william-james88 wrote:I am really confused. They cancel a bobba fett movie, something everyone wanted (cancelled an amazing looking game too but thats another thing). And yet they greenlight a show about a bounty hunter who has the same armour, what gives?

The Boba Fett movie was never actually announced as being in development, and neither was the Obi-Wan movie. Honestly, I think all the Boba Fett film rumors were more tied to this show than anything else.

But also, Kathleen Kennedy has no idea what she wants to do with the franchise. That’s what gives.

News Credits: 41 · Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:22 pm

Nemesis Maximo wrote:
william-james88 wrote:I am really confused. They cancel a bobba fett movie, something everyone wanted (cancelled an amazing looking game too but thats another thing). And yet they greenlight a show about a bounty hunter who has the same armour, what gives?

The Boba Fett movie was never actually announced as being in development, and neither was the Obi-Wan movie. Honestly, I think all the Boba Fett film rumors were more tied to this show than anything else.

But also, Kathleen Kennedy has no idea what she wants to do with the franchise. That’s what gives.

I have from a reputable source that the Boba Fett idea was originally Lucas's waaaaaay back when Cartoon Network did the Clone Wars 2D animated shorts. The idea was originally for a TV series. He even approached Genndy Tartakovsky (producer of said CN shorts) with the idea.
I think The Madalorian is just the evolution of that idea.

I also think Kennedy has an idea of what she want to do with it, I just don't think anyone else wants her to do it! :-x

News Credits: 22 · Fri May 03, 2019 12:13 am

Just found out that Peter Mayhew died. He was 74 years old. Rest in peace.

News Credits: 1350 · Fri May 03, 2019 3:39 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:Just found out that Peter Mayhew died. He was 74 years old. Rest in peace.

I found as well last night hope his family are holding up well

Mon May 27, 2019 9:12 pm

The boba fett movie was going to happen but it was originally going to be directed by josh trank the guy that did fanfourstic his antics during that movie and it’s failure got him fired and the movie pushed back on the slate. Then Solo failed (still need to see it) and the stand alone movies got shelved

Not sure about rise of sky walker. Last Jedi pretty much killed the Disney canon for me. It’ll take a rogue squadron revival or bringing back the solo kids to restore my interest. Unless the rumors are correct about a kotor series.....

Damn it Star Wars stop toying with my emotions

News Credits: 1350 · Tue May 28, 2019 3:19 am

Does a new star wars movie by the people behind game of thrones stroke your interest?

News Credits: 22 · Tue May 28, 2019 3:27 am

Solo didn't fail. It was a fairly good origin story that made a profit. It didn't meet Disney's expectations, but how could it? Episode 7 and Rogue One made a lot, but they came out close to each other, and Episode 8 was on the way as well. I think people were starting to get Star Wars fatigue, and unfortunately Solo was the one that suffered, instead of the POS that Episode 8 was. But IMO, Solo is 2nd only behind Rogue One in terms of quality storytelling, and way ahead of both Episodes 7 and 8. I hope it gets a sequel, telling the story of how Han and Chewie got mixed up with Jabba, and having it end at the bar in Mos Eisley right before Han SHOOTS FIRST and kills Greedo.

Tue May 28, 2019 9:13 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:Solo didn't fail. It was a fairly good origin story that made a profit. It didn't meet Disney's expectations, but how could it? Episode 7 and Rogue One made a lot, but they came out close to each other, and Episode 8 was on the way as well. I think people were starting to get Star Wars fatigue, and unfortunately Solo was the one that suffered, instead of the POS that Episode 8 was. But IMO, Solo is 2nd only behind Rogue One in terms of quality storytelling, and way ahead of both Episodes 7 and 8. I hope it gets a sequel, telling the story of how Han and Chewie got mixed up with Jabba, and having it end at the bar in Mos Eisley right before Han SHOOTS FIRST and kills Greedo.

I was referring to how Disney seems to have perceived it

News Credits: 4877 · Tue May 28, 2019 9:21 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:Solo didn't fail. It was a fairly good origin story that made a profit.

Where did you read that? Because every source I can find shows quite the opposite.

Source https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?i ... gyfilm.htm

Budget: $275 million

Gross: $392,924,807

Since only half (at most) of the gross goes back to the film distributors (movie theatres keep at least 50% of ticket sales) that means only $196,462,403 went back to Disney, at most.

$275-$196 means losses of about $80 Million. And its very possible movie theatres took a cut closer to 60% or 65% so that would mean an even bigger loss.

News Credits: 1350 · Tue May 28, 2019 11:36 am

And that budget probably wouldn't include marketing to boot.

News Credits: 4877 · Tue May 28, 2019 1:03 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:And that budget probably wouldn't include marketing to boot.

It does not, it is only the production budget. Major money was lost here.

News Credits: 22 · Tue May 28, 2019 4:23 pm

I was under the I impression Solo finished between $550 and $600 million. I stand corrected. Creatively I still think it was a success. It was a good movie.

News Credits: 1646 · Tue May 28, 2019 6:16 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:I was under the I impression Solo finished between $550 and $600 million. I stand corrected. Creatively I still think it was a success. It was a good movie.

I was ok with it. It wasn't a bad film, but it didn't have anything exciting to it. It reminds me a lot of Captain Marvel (my opinion): objectively it is good with good performances and a decent storyline serving as an origin story; but it didn't have that "oomf" needed to really catch my attention more.

News Credits: 22 · Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:47 am

Recently I had a conversation with a friend about Star Wars, and I have a question: In the time of Revenge of the Sith, besides Mace Windu, was there another character strong enough to defeat Palpatine? Obviously Yoda couldn't (maybe if he had been younger), and even though Anakin was very powerful (maybe even more than Obi Wan?), he was way too arrogant. Had he been a level-headed and disciplined master, I think that would have been a great battle. But otherwise, the only one with a shot at it would have been Obi Wan, and IMO he would have failed. If this was answered in any of the EU material (even if it's not considered canon now), I don't know about it, my SW knowledge includes the movies only.

News Credits: 25 · Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:55 am

Mace Windu was NOT strong enough to defeat Palpatine. That whole fight was just a ploy to help turn Anakin.

News Credits: 22 · Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:57 pm

Ironhidensh wrote:Mace Windu was NOT strong enough to defeat Palpatine. That whole fight was just a ploy to help turn Anakin.

So if Anakin hadn't done anything, Palpatine would have gotten up and defeated Windu? Which means that there was no one strong enough to defeat him at the time?

News Credits: 25 · Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:09 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:Mace Windu was NOT strong enough to defeat Palpatine. That whole fight was just a ploy to help turn Anakin.
So if Anakin hadn't done anything, Palpatine would have gotten up and defeated Windu? Which means that there was no one strong enough to defeat him at the time?

Correct. The movies did a piss poor job at laying it out. If you are inclined to reading at all, check out the official novelization of Revenge of the Sith. Does an excellent job of laying it out. Even how Obi Wan triumphed through training and not power, and quite a bit of luck.

Anakin is the most powerful Jedi ever, though he lost much of his power after the Mustafar fight. “More machine now, than man”, thus loosing the title to his son.

Luke is the second, and Palpatine is the third. There is an argument for Leia being as strong as Luke, but her potential was never realized.