The Energon Pub

[ZeroWolf]

Single or double bladed? Plus is this assuming its in the hand of a jedi or what passes for an average Joe in the sw universe?

[Cobotron]

The Force seems to be a pretty powerful weapon when necessary.

And Wookie bowcasters lay down some serious damage.

[william-james88]

In the entire Star Wars universe, is the lightsaber the most powerful personal weapon?

The lightsabre is not powerful on its own, it is 100% dependent on the skill of the user, unlike Chewie's Bow Gun.

[Cobotron]

, it is 100% dependent on the skill of the user

Especially if they employ the Force.

[shajaki]

We learned (though it probably wasn't *new* information) that the Death Star laser used the same crystals as lightsabers.

Sooo..... technically yes?

[william-james88]

We learned (though it probably wasn't *new* information) that the Death Star laser used the same crystals as lightsabers.

Sooo..... technically yes?

Did we? I know people hypothesised this in Rogue 1 but when the movie came out, there was no indication of that and no mention of it.

[shajaki]

We learned (though it probably wasn't *new* information) that the Death Star laser used the same crystals as lightsabers.

Sooo..... technically yes?

Did we? I know people hypothesised this in Rogue 1 but when the movie came out, there was no indication of that and no mention of it.

Wasn't it in the dialogue? They were mining Jeda (Jehda?) for the crystals, for use on the Death Star. Could be wrong, but I recall them saying that.

[shajaki]

In "Rogue One," Galen Erso (Mads Mikkelsen) uses the crystals as fuel to power the Death Star. In most of Star Wars, Kyber crystals are used as a focus in one way or another, but typically not consumed. Calling them "fuel" implies that the Death Star actually consumes the crystals when firing.

[Cobotron]

We learned (though it probably wasn't *new* information) that the Death Star laser used the same crystals as lightsabers.

Sooo..... technically yes?

Did we? I know people hypothesised this in Rogue 1 but when the movie came out, there was no indication of that and no mention of it.

Wasn't it in the dialogue? They were mining Jeda (Jehda?) for the crystals, for use on the Death Star. Could be wrong, but I recall them saying that.

Yep. That is what they were using the Kyber crystals for.

I see what your saying too, and it's a good point. If they are using the crystals to power "the most powerful weapon in the galaxy", the energy produced by the crystals most be pretty dang intense. Even in a saber.

Still think the Force is the most powerful personal weapon though.

[shajaki]

We learned (though it probably wasn't *new* information) that the Death Star laser used the same crystals as lightsabers.

Sooo..... technically yes?

Did we? I know people hypothesised this in Rogue 1 but when the movie came out, there was no indication of that and no mention of it.

Wasn't it in the dialogue? They were mining Jeda (Jehda?) for the crystals, for use on the Death Star. Could be wrong, but I recall them saying that.

Yep. That is what they were using the Kyber crystals for.

I see what your saying too, and it's a good point. If they are using the crystals to power "the most powerful weapon in the galaxy", the energy produced by the crystals most be pretty dang intense. Even in a saber.

Still think the Force is the most powerful personal weapon though.

Technically, we're both right

Kyber crystals, also called the living crystal, the lightsaber crystal or simply the kyber, and known as kaiburr crystals in ancient times, were rare, Force-attuned crystals that grew in nature and were found on scattered planets across the galaxy.

So they're kind of like, the physical embodiment of the Force.

[Nemesis Maximo]

We learned (though it probably wasn't *new* information) that the Death Star laser used the same crystals as lightsabers.

Sooo..... technically yes?

Did we? I know people hypothesised this in Rogue 1 but when the movie came out, there was no indication of that and no mention of it.

Wasn't it in the dialogue? They were mining Jeda (Jehda?) for the crystals, for use on the Death Star. Could be wrong, but I recall them saying that.

Yep. That is what they were using the Kyber crystals for.

I see what your saying too, and it's a good point. If they are using the crystals to power "the most powerful weapon in the galaxy", the energy produced by the crystals most be pretty dang intense. Even in a saber.

Still think the Force is the most powerful personal weapon though.

The Force should never be used as a weapon, only for knowledge and defense. These are the weapons of a Jedi.

[Cobotron]

Interesting!

So did the concept of Kyber crystals exist before Rogue 1?

[shajaki]

No idea. I just learned all this from Google. I assumed it was all pre-existing knowledge since the cannon of Star Wars is so immense

[Cobotron]

[The Force should never be used as a weapon, only for knowledge and defense. These are the weapons of a Jedi.

Well said! Well said.

Now somebody tell that to the Sith.

[william-james88]

Kyber crystals, also called the living crystal, the lightsaber crystal or simply the kyber, and known as kaiburr crystals in ancient times, were rare, Force-attuned crystals that grew in nature and were found on scattered planets across the galaxy.

So they're kind of like, the physical embodiment of the Force.

We all know the physical emodimnt of the force is midichlorians

[ZeroWolf]

Maybe kyber crystals are just the dead remains of midichlorians

Here's a question. The wookies live in huts on a foresty type planet...yet they were able to develop, make and refine the bowcaster...where were their factories,

[Nemesis Maximo]

Maybe kyber crystals are just the dead remains of midichlorians

Here's a question. The wookies live in huts on a foresty type planet...yet they were able to develop, make and refine the bowcaster...where were their factories,

Wasn’t it revealed somewhere that Wookiee are so into nature that they grow ships and weapons from the very trees they live in? I thought it was something dumb like that.

[shajaki]

Kyber crystals, also called the living crystal, the lightsaber crystal or simply the kyber, and known as kaiburr crystals in ancient times, were rare, Force-attuned crystals that grew in nature and were found on scattered planets across the galaxy.

So they're kind of like, the physical embodiment of the Force.

We all know the physical emodimnt of the force is midichlorians

Get out.

[Burn]

We learned (though it probably wasn't *new* information) that the Death Star laser used the same crystals as lightsabers.

Sooo..... technically yes?

Did we? I know people hypothesised this in Rogue 1 but when the movie came out, there was no indication of that and no mention of it.

The comics expanded and definitely confirmed it.

[shajaki]

I had a thought about TLJ....

In the beginning of the movie, they establish that the First Order can and is tracking them through lightspeed, more specifically through their MAIN ship.

I think it was a Rose/Finn scene, and the discovery may not have been passed on to Holdo (or whatever her name was, purple hair lady leader).

So... couldn't they have just... made the information known to Holdo, evacuate the main ship - sacrificing it, jump the rest of the fleet away, thus saving 99% of the remaining rebels?

[ZeroWolf]

Where's the fun in that? I would put that up there though, maybe just under the great hole in raiders of the lost ark

[Ironhidensh]

I had a thought about TLJ....

In the beginning of the movie, they establish that the First Order can and is tracking them through lightspeed, more specifically through their MAIN ship.

I think it was a Rose/Finn scene, and the discovery may not have been passed on to Holdo (or whatever her name was, purple hair lady leader).

So... couldn't they have just... made the information known to Holdo, evacuate the main ship - sacrificing it, jump the rest of the fleet away, thus saving 99% of the remaining rebels?

Or.......... all of those 1st order star destroyers carried 100sn if not thousands of TIE fighters. Why not send them all out at once? That sort of mass fire would have easily overwhelmed one cruisers shields.

[Burn]

How would they have dragged the borefest out though?

[Burn]

**** YES!!!!!!!!!!

[Cobotron]

Whoa! A new run of Clone Wars?

Sweet!