ZeroWolf wrote:Given mark hamil isn't getting any younger, wasn't in the best of shape and thus could only do a obi wan...maybe you all expected too much? Hype is a terrible thing (for a games reference, look at happy games and no man's sky. They promised the universe and delievered...a pond in comparison).
I love your no man sky analogy for Hype.
But for Luke, I know I didnt expect a super insane light saber fight with him being ultra athletic. With Force Awakens being a call back to A New Hope I expected this to be a call back to Empire (which it is at times) and Luke to take the role of a wise and powerful jedi isolated from the rest of the Universe, as Yoda was. Yoda was a puppet, you cant get more limiting than that for an all powerful jedi master. And yet, they made it work in Empire. We could have seen Luke's incredible power in a similar way, he didnt have to be in incredible shape. He could have pulled the spaceship from underwater. I mean, might as well if you are going to show it to us.
The funny thing here is that when force awakens came out people didn't like the fact that it cut too closely to elements of the original trilogy (mostly new hope but with sprinkles of the others here and there) and say they wanted different...the phrase be careful what you wish for certainly rings true at this point. Disney listened, as did rian johnson and they went very different with the last jedi. So they got lambasted for it. Apparently, everyone wants a star wars movie but what is a star wars movie? It seems that it's something that the original creator and the fans can't agree on.
I disagree, what Rian Johnson did is the opposite of what people expected, which is just as unoriginal. Ray's parents being nobody, her not getting training on the island, the jedi master books not helping, Snoke not being the villain, this is all just the reverse of something expected, not a venture into something new. What really sucks about this is that it makes a lot of set up end up being useless and now nonsensical. The entire previous film was to find a map to get Luke, which he had left for his friends if ever they were in need. Now that makes no sense.
There are at least 3 scenes dedicated for the viewer to wonder who Rey's parents are, which is now just wasted screentime. If her parents were going to be no one, then why dwell on it and tease it so much.
The first line of the film is that the First Order is now ruling the galaxy, which right there felt like absolute nonsense when the previous film ended with their giant battle station being destroyed and all of them running off and scattering away. Well, maybe there is a time jump and this film takes plae a few years later. But no, its like 5 mins later, so like what the ****.
As simply a film viewer, I felt i was being trolled by the director (knowing he also wrote it) while watching this film. It was a very unpleasant experience.