Zeedust wrote:The English release of ""Transformers the Manga" would have been a good excuse to make a Guiltor Gilthor figure. The glorious insanity of that design deserves to be immortalized in plastic.
Tuned Agent wrote:Am I the only one that thinks that Guiltor Gilthor would make a great voyager weaponizer? He's a mash-up of Optimus and Megatron (which seems oddly appropriate for a weaponizer), and he's got a whole lot of guns.
Black Hat wrote:Non-humanoid robot modes are the best, and I'd love to see more too. One of the things I loved about the movie designs was the more monstrous robot modes for some of the Decepticons.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:They did a pickup remake of Optimus, does that count?
Well, Cybertron was a mainstream toyline with a show behind it. Alternators/Binaltech was a sideline aimed at collectors who also liked fancy model cars.Rogue-Primal wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:They did a pickup remake of Optimus, does that count?
Forgot about him from that really complex line. But Alternators was obscure and never came to northern Europe (Scandinavia) and Transformers: Cybertron got chosen instead (not that it was a bad series)
Rogue-Primal wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:They did a pickup remake of Optimus, does that count?
Forgot about him from that really complex line. But Alternators was obscure and never came to northern Europe (Scandinavia) and Transformers: Cybertron got chosen instead (not that it was a bad series)
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Honestly, looking back... I think Alternators/BT may have been one of the biggest wastes of fans' time and money in all TF.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Honestly, looking back... I think Alternators/BT may have been one of the biggest wastes of fans' time and money in all TF.
Well see, that's what I was getting at. Takara didn't bother making actual Masterpieces of the Autobot cars up until MP-10 rebooted the Masterpiece line, because prior to that the Alternators/BT toys were expected to fill that role and treated as "good enough".-Kanrabat- wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Honestly, looking back... I think Alternators/BT may have been one of the biggest wastes of fans' time and money in all TF.
STOP RIGHT THERE YOU CRIMINAL SCUM!
Some molds are trash, (Optimus, Windcharger, Tracks, Sunstreaker) but other were the default Masterpieces for a long time.
Oh, the good figures are quite good, don't get me wrong. Although, Roddy is a retool of the line's Mirage.-Kanrabat- wrote:Among those "Masterpieces" were Hound and Prowl. The Jazz mold was also pretty solid and with the Reprolabel set, he was almost perfect. There's also Skids who is stellar and pretty much a "MP".
There were other completely original ones that too were awesome. Like Jaguar Ravage and Rodimus. Plus the fact that you got a COMPLETE car interior and many cars were clean even on the underside! This make Alternators/Binaltech a pretty damn solid line overall.
Also MP-05, because that was in scale with MP-01. But see, that's kind of a big fault. That and the fact that it influenced CHUG unduly and became Takara's excuse to not do actual MPs for the longest time... That's why part of me feels like it was a big waste in hindsight, even with as good as several figures were.-Kanrabat- wrote:When Alternator failed, it failed hard. But when it succeeded, it knocked it out of the park. Ultimately the true fault of the line was that it could only be in scale with itself or MP-01.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Also, even if Alternators had continued that Soundwave would never have happened. For the same reason that Optimus got reduced to being a pickup.
Ah, I'd forgotten about that. Still, even if Optimus had had his own mold being made he probably would have been a pickup. See, I forgot to include something in that last post I meant to include "and that we never got any Combaticons other than Swindle".-Kanrabat- wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Also, even if Alternators had continued that Soundwave would never have happened. For the same reason that Optimus got reduced to being a pickup.
Dunno about that.
Also, Optimus was NOT "reduced to being a pick-up". Rather, Ironhide(?)(as rumored) was fock'd out of his Alternators spot by having his mold stolen by Optimus because Optimus sell more because Takara demanded it.
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Well, according to the article, the specific reason Takara wanted it to be made into Optimus to help it sell better, was because the vehicle mode itself wasn't super appealing in Japan.-Kanrabat- wrote:They could at least have followed through with this logic and repainted/remolded Alternators Optimus as Megatron.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:There were separate plans for Megatron. He had his own toy in the works, a Cadillac XLR, but then the line got shelved indefinitely in 2006.
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