OptiMagnus10 wrote:Dagon wrote:Well, at the prodigious risk of igniting yet another riot, you may never get a real reason because some people are not willing to accept that some people just didn't like the movie. I didn't really like it, but I am not one of they who deride it as being the worst thing ever. "I don't like it" really is a valid reason, and I'm not exactly sure what else is "required" to not like a movie. For the most part, the people who give reasons for liking the movie essentailly keep saying that everyone else needs to get over G1 and move out of the basement, so, if that's a "real" answer as to why we must love the movie, then "I just didn't like it" or "it's not my favorite continuity" surely should be an acceptable reason as well. Ultimately, it's gotten to the point where reasons are only valid if the reader decides they are, and I can't wait for the storm the third movie will bring with it.
I think the problem I have is with the ones that can't let go of their dislike of the movieverse so they must go into the forums and bash them...and especially the fans...to bits and pieces. So, I don't think we must all love the movie, but I do think we should all at least show some tolerance and at least a hint of openness and especially show some self control and not become enraged that someone else finds enjoyment in something they personally don't like, so they take it out on that person and try to tear them down and what they enjoy. I just don't see why tearing others down can be justified by saying "the movies suck" or also adding "so you suck for liking them". I do consider "I don't like the movies" a valid reason for someone who just doesn't like them, but doesn't care to shove hate in someone's face. I personally think there is a difference between "I hate the movies 'cause they suck" and "I just don't care for the movie stuff". If the person says they "suck" I just would like to know why they "suck".
Ok, I agree with everything that you are saying, but if it doesn't cut both ways then you can't really expect or hope for people to be sympathetic. Who even remembers who started it all anymore, but there are and have been plenty of Movieverse fans who have derided everything else TF related because it wasn't movieverse stuff. Disliking things means you're only throwing back what the critics had said? REally? I can't speak for anyone else, but I saw ROTF opening day, and didn't read the paper until afterwards becuase we saw it in the morning, so I didn't know Roger Ebert hated the movie until after I knew I didn't like it. And besides, "just cause the critics hated it" doesn't sound like a "No, you're stupid!!" arguement to anyone else, only to me?
Look, I don't even care about the stupid movie anymore. I only stopped in here to list things that I did like better about the movieverse than G1 or whatever else. You can see that for yourself, I made two posts, each with positive things in them, and this third one was born of my having a third positive thing to say. But as Evil was once so sly as to toss back at me, I have called ROTF fans a persecuted minority because of things like this. Like no matter what, no one's response to the film is good enough. People don't like it enough or don't take it seriously enough or they take it too seriously or it made a billion dollars or it was panned by critics so it underperformed or whatever else suits peoples' needs at that moment. It's like its a free speech issue...."You don't have to like it but if you don't like it you're ruining my liking it!!!!!!" and I'm not sure how that's even sort of intelligent.
"Opposition is true friendship" dude. It means that if we disagree we'll always have something to talk about and we'll become better people in the process because we'll learn from each other. Movieverse people crying about Geewuners being unbending is wicked hypocritical.
Anyway, I honest to god like the way the Constructicons look. Rampage was my least favorite for a long time, but in the desert battle, that jackhammer leg thing actually works for me. I think it's the tread whips to be honest, and the way he fights with BB makes me think of those creatures in The Suffering that would dig under the ground then pop up and swing their chains around. Long Haul, Mix and Demolisher I've always liked, and since everything has to be all 'alien zomg' and stuff, I propose Demolisher to be the best robot design in both movies. He's strange but functional, as is see when he's rolling down the street in China.
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