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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Tigatron had a lot of interesting concepts and ideas to him... Which would have worked better as Polar Claw or Wolfang. Especially during Season One, I think they could have swapped out the one note Cheetor for him.
Rainmaker wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Tigatron had a lot of interesting concepts and ideas to him... Which would have worked better as Polar Claw or Wolfang. Especially during Season One, I think they could have swapped out the one note Cheetor for him.
Having Tigatron was cheaper than making an entirely new model for either Polarclaw or Wolfang
I really shouldn't risk getting this thread any more off topic, but the slur-out-of-context theory for "Unicron-Spawn" has been bugging me ever since I saw it uncontested on TFWiki, so I feel the need to post a reminder of its actual context in the show: In the previous episode, Tarantulas told Tigerhawk that he and the Tripredicus council weren't descended from Autobots or Decepticons, unlike most Maximals and Predacons. That was an odd enough tidbit of info to drop that it left the viewer assuming we'd soon learn just what those origins were. So, while Megatron calling Tarantulas "Unicron Spawn" in the following episode did indeed sound derogatory, it also sounded like the other shoe dropping. I'm not crazy about injecting Unicron into the BW mythos in that way either, to me it actually takes more fanwank to say it was just a slur, because you'd have to just make something up to explain what Tarantulas and the Council's origins actually were.Coptur wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Well, the deaths in The Agenda were in part down to Mainframe not knowing if they would get a Season 3. Hence Rampage and Inferno being virtually incinerated and being perfectly fine in the next episode.
Much in the same way Tarantulas and Tigerhawk were killed off so quickly in Season 3.
The 'Unicron Spawn' line will always be contentious. A slur, no doubt. But some always read more into things than others. Like how some fans accredit Beast Wars with having links to the G1/G2 comics, purely based on what those behind the scenes have said after the fact. To me, the show has no links to the comics, because it was never featured or directly referenced in a single episode. Which is the only source that counts.
As for Terrorsaur, there was actually an episode of Animated that gave me an idea on where he might have gone. Wherein Starscream created his own clone/Seeker brigade. That could have worked for him. Also elaborating more on the Season one idea of Cybertronian intellect being overtaken by the more bestial nature of the organics integrated in them. As for Scorponok, leave him where he sank...
As an aside, I do hold out the faintest hope that one day we might get a Masterpiece Beast Wars Ravage from The Agenda. One that transforms from a vague TM Cheetor body mold into a Cassette.
We all love a cliffhanger ending...LOL. Tarantulas made it 10/11 episodes Tigahawk was pointless for me nothing than more "hey kids look at this toy".
Honestly (for me) the Unicorn line for me was nothing more than a slur and taken way out of context, I honestly cannot express how much I hate the Tarantulas/Unicron thing. For me there should've/could've been a Quintesson to me they make more sense than Unicron. (I literally wrote a sequel to BM in 2001/2002 with a friend [probably awful] using the Qunitessons). Could agree more about the G2 thing another thing taken way out of context, keep the Vok away from the the Swarm.
Yeah I can see Terrorsaur doing that with a few of the other status pods Lazorbeak & Fractyl come to mind. Then I guess Tarantulas tried to do the the with spiders early season 1. The more I look at the Cybertron series Dark Scorponok I think that could've been BW Scorponoks badass/gone mad Transmetal 1 or 2 body.
ZeroWolf wrote:But it would get rid of the matrix
I can understand what you're saying about the non-quint but quint allied but unless they have alt modes I don't think hasbro care (or weapon modes or can turn into a ramp)
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:But it would get rid of the matrix
But the Matrix was only a Unicron problem. Who knows, through Unicron's random travels in The Movie, he might never have even found Cybertron Shockwave's Cybertron..
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:But it would get rid of the matrix
But the Matrix was only a Unicron problem. Who knows, through Unicron's random travels in The Movie, he might never have even found Cybertron Shockwave's Cybertron..
He eventually would have by process of random elimination. That scenario is actually explored by the N64 version of the Beast Wars Transmetals game, in one of the character endings.
The Wiki wrote:Ravage: He betrayed Megatron, seized the Ark, and began cloning all the dormant Decepticons into new forms. Now he plans to take this army back to future Cybertron: it's time for the Decepticons to conquer time itself!
ZeroWolf wrote:Ah but if he got rid of the cons and bots then there's no matrix so unicron wins there. I'm also glad they didn't go with the quints as I found them boring and more one note then Unicron! Even the comics couldn't find any good for them.
Also megs was pretty smart, how do you know he didn't deduce what tarantulus origin was when he learned of the plan?
A fan explanation as any but given how old the content is, I think it's safe to say we can make it fit anything we want.
ZeroWolf wrote:Well the creators probably saw the fan interpretation, realised it was better then the insult and ran with it. Or more precisely, didn't shut it down. As I do find the Unicron comment much better then just a slur. It helps to hint at other things.
Then again why would unicron even be a slur to begin with since he was blasted into pieces and his place as the transformers devil was only cemented by Furman in the Marvel run.
ZeroWolf wrote:The first beast wars game was given a pal release but I'm going to guess that it didn't sell enough to get them to localise the sequel. Which is odd considering the games we did get released Pal which couldn't have sold more than Beast wars like Gundam Battle Assault. C'est la vie.
Still I would like to see the world that must exist where beast wars got a much bigger budget, thus allowing more characters to appear, to see which characters were added and even what new toys could have resulted.
Rogue-Primal wrote:I think Razorbeast deserves a mention, i do wish i had him since he's a great way to have a Transformers toy that reminds me of Pumba, one of the most funniest disney characters.
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Rogue-Primal wrote:I think Razorbeast deserves a mention, i do wish i had him since he's a great way to have a Transformers toy that reminds me of Pumba, one of the most funniest disney characters.
Super glad someone else feels this way, Razorbeast is a fun toy and a wonderful basic
ZeroWolf wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Rogue-Primal wrote:I think Razorbeast deserves a mention, i do wish i had him since he's a great way to have a Transformers toy that reminds me of Pumba, one of the most funniest disney characters.
Super glad someone else feels this way, Razorbeast is a fun toy and a wonderful basic
I have now convinced myself the designer had lion King on the brain when designing razorbeast. I'm also imagining that the meerkat maximal sadly never went past the design phase
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