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News Credits: 4836 · by **william-james88** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:38 pm

Nathaniel Prime wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Any chance that when they get around to Studio Series of his concept camaro form from 2007, they just shrink the MPM (and make changes where necessary for the size)? Cos that could be cool.

They did that with SS Barricade, so there should be no reason why not

Wasnt the 2nd AOE BB a shrunk down version of the MPM engineering, especially of the upper half with the way the car shell folds into the body and the smalelr wings come down for the wings. All to say that it has been done.

I dont see how people think the deluxe SS Barricade imitates the MPM toy, when the biggest inovation from the MPM toy is finally getting the wheel hands right and this deluxe reverting back to doing nothing with the wheels and just leaving them where they are from car mode.

News Credits: 56 · by **Nathaniel Prime** » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:32 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Nathaniel Prime wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Any chance that when they get around to Studio Series of his concept camaro form from 2007, they just shrink the MPM (and make changes where necessary for the size)? Cos that could be cool.

They did that with SS Barricade, so there should be no reason why not

Wasnt the 2nd AOE BB a shrunk down version of the MPM engineering, especially of the upper half with the way the car shell folds into the body and the smalelr wings come down for the wings. All to say that it has been done.

I dont see how people think the deluxe SS Barricade imitates the MPM toy, when the biggest inovation from the MPM toy is finally getting the wheel hands right and this deluxe reverting back to doing nothing with the wheels and just leaving them where they are from car mode.

Correction: It's the second TLK figure, and yes, it takes alot of engineering from the MPM, notably how the wheels form the feet, how the roof folds up on his back, and how it has 2 sets of wings. What I meant by my SS Barricade comment was, HasTak took a lot of the engineering from the MPM and put it on the deluxe. They had to leave out some complicated steps like the wheels not being on his hands but for the price and size, it's still pretty awesome.

News Credits: 4836 · by **william-james88** » Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:41 pm

Nathaniel Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Nathaniel Prime wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Any chance that when they get around to Studio Series of his concept camaro form from 2007, they just shrink the MPM (and make changes where necessary for the size)? Cos that could be cool.

They did that with SS Barricade, so there should be no reason why not

Wasnt the 2nd AOE BB a shrunk down version of the MPM engineering, especially of the upper half with the way the car shell folds into the body and the smalelr wings come down for the wings. All to say that it has been done.

I dont see how people think the deluxe SS Barricade imitates the MPM toy, when the biggest inovation from the MPM toy is finally getting the wheel hands right and this deluxe reverting back to doing nothing with the wheels and just leaving them where they are from car mode.

Correction: It's the second TLK figure, and yes, it takes alot of engineering from the MPM, notably how the wheels form the feet, how the roof folds up on his back, and how it has 2 sets of wings. What I meant by my SS Barricade comment was, HasTak took a lot of the engineering from the MPM and put it on the deluxe. They had to leave out some complicated steps like the wheels not being on his hands but for the price and size, it's still pretty awesome.

Right right, of course TLK, silly mistake on my part

News Credits: 56 · by **Nathaniel Prime** » Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:26 am

I find it a little weird how no one even mentioned AOE High Octane Bee. I mean, it probably wasn't as good as the others on this list, but that alt mode has to be my favorite. Also, I really like the bot mode and how different it is between all the flow of Bees, with the reverse color scheme and new kind of chest

News Credits: 4836 · by **william-james88** » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:15 am

Nathaniel Prime wrote:I find it a little weird how no one even mentioned AOE High Octane Bee. I mean, it probably wasn't as good as the others on this list, but that alt mode has to be my favorite. Also, I really like the bot mode and how different it is between all the flow of Bees, with the reverse color scheme and new kind of chest

Did you tke a look at the front page lately ?
https://www.seibertron.com/

Also I am surprised there is very little discussion going on here. Is it due to all the fatigue over this character? Or is it that since his toys are incrimental from one to the next, there isnt much to discuss? As opposed to say a list of Top 5 Megatron toys.

News Credits: 61 · by **EvasionModeBumblebee** » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:59 am

Nathaniel Prime wrote:I find it a little weird how no one even mentioned AOE High Octane Bee. I mean, it probably wasn't as good as the others on this list, but that alt mode has to be my favorite. Also, I really like the bot mode and how different it is between all the flow of Bees, with the reverse color scheme and new kind of chest

High octane Bee is my least favorite movie Bumblebee figure. The vehicle mode is pretty cool, but I just don't like anything about the robot mode.

But! talking about the figures I do like, I think I've got my top 5.

5. Human Alliance
4. War Hammer Bumblebee

3. DOTM Deluxe

2. SS-01 76 Camaro Bee

1. MPM-03 Bumblebee

News Credits: 56 · by **Nathaniel Prime** » Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:50 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Nathaniel Prime wrote:I find it a little weird how no one even mentioned AOE High Octane Bee. I mean, it probably wasn't as good as the others on this list, but that alt mode has to be my favorite. Also, I really like the bot mode and how different it is between all the flow of Bees, with the reverse color scheme and new kind of chest

Did you tke a look at the front page lately ?
https://www.seibertron.com/

Also I am surprised there is very little discussion going on here. Is it due to all the fatigue over this character? Or is it that since his toys are incrimental from one to the next, there isnt much to discuss? As opposed to say a list of Top 5 Megatron toys.

I know about the front page, that's when I asked about him. I never said or thought he was the best, but in my opinion looked pretty good. That said, I think every item on your list is superior. I only had the DOTM mold and I prefered it to the HFTD version, except for the stupid weapon. Sold it to buy other stuff after 7 years of playing with it keeping it in my collection.

Now here's a brain twister for a top 5 list; Top 5 Deluxe Class figures ever made. I'd love to see what you'd have to say about that.

by **Jeddostotle7** » Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:39 am

Nathaniel Prime wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Nathaniel Prime wrote:I find it a little weird how no one even mentioned AOE High Octane Bee. I mean, it probably wasn't as good as the others on this list, but that alt mode has to be my favorite. Also, I really like the bot mode and how different it is between all the flow of Bees, with the reverse color scheme and new kind of chest

Did you tke a look at the front page lately ?
https://www.seibertron.com/

Also I am surprised there is very little discussion going on here. Is it due to all the fatigue over this character? Or is it that since his toys are incrimental from one to the next, there isnt much to discuss? As opposed to say a list of Top 5 Megatron toys.

I know about the front page, that's when I asked about him. I never said or thought he was the best, but in my opinion looked pretty good. That said, I think every item on your list is superior. I only had the DOTM mold and I prefered it to the HFTD version, except for the stupid weapon. Sold it to buy other stuff after 7 years of playing with it keeping it in my collection.

Now here's a brain twister for a top 5 list; Top 5 Deluxe Class figures ever made. I'd love to see what you'd have to say about that.

Oooh, I second this recommendation. Top 5 (10?) figures of a whole size class ought to be a real intriguing challenge of a list to write.

News Credits: 56 · by **Nathaniel Prime** » Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:56 pm

Top 5/10 deluxe figures sounds REALLY hard, but I think a Top 5 Leader figures might be feasible. Anyway, no matter which is made, I know it would be a fun read

News Credits: 4836 · by **william-james88** » Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:24 pm

Nathaniel Prime wrote:Top 5/10 deluxe figures sounds REALLY hard, but I think a Top 5 Leader figures might be feasible. Anyway, no matter which is made, I know it would be a fun read

That is most kind of you Nathaniel Prime.
And yes, top deluxes is super hard I dont think I will ever do it. I have done top 5 scouts, legions and I have a top commander class coming soon. Top 5 Ultras is doable too, Mega too. Older classes we dont have anymore. Maybe deluxe from a specific line. Like top 5 Beast Era Deluxe toys. I definitely want to do a top 5 beast era basics list, but its tough since its hard to distinguish just how much better one is to the next.