Top 5 times G1 Transformer Toys Were Better in the Diaclone / Microchange line

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Top 5 times G1 Transformer Toys Were Better in the Diaclone / Microchange line

Postby william-james88 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:58 pm

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Top 5 times G1 Transformer Toys Were Better in the Diaclone / Microchange line

As many of you know, the original Transformers toys were imported toys from Japan that came from different transforming robot lines, mainly Diaclone and Microchange. Both were derivatives of GI Joe and if you want the full story you, The Toys That Made Us has an excellent episode to get you up to speed on the exciting history of these toys. In short, none of the initial Transformers toys were conceived as giant sentient robots fighting eachother in an eons long war. Due to that, and also due to different safety standards in the US, there are several aspects of the toys that were dropped when they came to America. In some cases, the original version of the toy had more to offer and made more sense, and that is what we are looking at today.


5. Swoop when issued as Dinosaur Robo no.5 (Diaclone)

Unlike many Transformers releases of Diaclone figures, Swoop actually had firing missiles, and no obvious seat for a small figure to pilot, making this look less like a toy intended for another line. However, there is still one big reason why his Diaclone release has an advantage over the Hasbro release, and it's a reason no others on this list share. While the release of the mold under the Transformers brand had a red chest, the original release had a blue chest, which is far more accurate to the deco the character was sporting in the cartoon. You can see the difference below with the "worlds smallest transformers" release of the two different decos.

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4. Transformers G1 1985 Blaster when issued as MC-21 Radi-Cassette Robo (Microchange)

I would like to thank Black Bumblebee for pointing me to something truly awesome: Blaster's original toy had a working AM radio. It's a very sophisticated product. You would plug a microcassette which was the radio into the chest and then use the buttons found around the toy to turn it on or off, and to change the stations and volume. A pair of batteries in the right leg (you can see an image of the battery compartment below) would amplify the signal. The on/off switch became molded detail for the Hasbro release and the back of the toy was remolded to not have the hatches and openings. And if you ever wondered why the gun has this big hole in the middle, it was to store the earphone. There was both a blue and red version of this toy, which is where the colour cues for both Blaster and Twincast come from.

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3. Transformers G1 1986 Ultra Magnus when issued as Powered Up Convoy (Diaclone)

The main reason why his Diaclone release is better is simply due to him having an extra transforming robot that comes with him. It makes sense, if the Magnus toy was derived from an upgraded version of Convoy, then why wouldn't it too get a smaller vehicle like roller? Well it did, and unlike roller, this little buddy transformed. There is no reason not to include or release that in a Transformers line.

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2. Transformers G1 1985 Perceptor when issued as MC-20 Micro Scope (Microchange)

The main reason why he is so high on this list is that the way he was repurposed in Hasbro's toy does not take advantage of his playability. This toy has three really good modes but you wouldnt know from the way he was released by Hasbro. The instructions show you can convert him from a Robot to a Microscope to a mobile laboratory, which looks like a cannon platform with the cannon pointing upward.

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It has later been called a tank mode, however, this is not the tank mode this toy was designed to have. The proper way to transform him as a tank as intended in the Microchange line is to have the cannon all the way down so that the hands and feet are parallel. That actually makes a third wheel in the back touch the ground and you now have a tank that can roll really well. Hasbro probably removed this awesome third mode from it's instructions (and replaced it with the mobile laboreatory) because the tank wasn't meant to be manned in the Transformers line, unlike the Microchange version which can fit Micromen (the slide holder becoming a place for the figure's back to rest against), driving the tank. While the toy we got ends up being very similar, and can still turn into an awesome rolling tank for your Micromen (each sold seperately), the entire purpose of the toy has changed and I feel it worked far better as a Microman toy. But at least, this is still an awesome toy which can work repurposed as a sentient robot, unlike the next toy on this list.

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1. Transformers G1 1984 Ironhide and Ratchet when issued as Cherry Vanette (Diaclone)

These toys make me sad, everytime. They arent great in the Transformers line and have been dissapointing people since 1984 since they don't look like their cartoon counterpart due to their lack of heads. Instead, you get a weird black face sticker behind the windshield stuck to a seat. This release is unfortunate because the toys they were initially are awesome! In Diaclone, this wasnt a headless sentient robot with a sled. Instead, it was a mech and a battle station, both manned by smaller figures which combined together to conceal themselves as a van. The functionality is still present in the Transformers release of this toy, but the meaning behind it and what it represents changes entirely. Instead of a headless robot, you get a manned mech with little figures which sit can sit behind the windshield which now lets them control heavier weaponry on the battle platform and actually fire some missiles (which the original Hasbro release did not do as well).

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Honuable mention: Transformers G1 1984 Soundwave when issued as MC-10 Cassette Man (Microchange)

Before being sold in the west as Soundwave, this toy was sold as Casette Man and actually came with life size headphone and microphone set (non functional, of course). He also came with a cassette case for the little cassette he came with, which Hasbro did not include in Soundwave's release (it was however included in this character's release in Japan). Also, while he comes with rockets and a rocket launcher, the missiles do not fire in the Hasbro version while they did when the toy was part of the Microchange line (and this speaks to most G1 toys of which I have chosen Soundwave as ambassador).

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Re: Top 5 times G1 Transformer Toys Were Better in the Diaclone / Microchange line

Postby Epsilon Delta » Sun Aug 12, 2018 1:39 pm

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It's always crazy when we talk about playability how much more there was in the G1 line that we never new about. All the "hidden modes" that were lost when the toys were repurposed or didn't make sense in context of the Transformers line. All the modes Ultra Magnus/Powered Convoy had. Cool stuff when I found out about it.
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Re: Top 5 times G1 Transformer Toys Were Better in the Diaclone / Microchange line

Postby ZeroWolf » Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:06 pm

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This will go down as one of my favourite lists that's been done. Thanks will :D

I've always been curious about powered convoy and as much as I like ultra magnus, the idea as he was in diaclone was awesome. I never realised that the 'car carrier' could take different modes as well, and it's a shame they weren't carried over. In some sense it's disappointing that takara won't get to go over these diaclone ideas in their diabattles line because of their connection to transformers now. I could see a updated take on cherry vanette quite easily (I mean we got an updated take on it in Energon/Super Link in the form of Tow Line)
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Re: Top 5 times G1 Transformer Toys Were Better in the Diaclone / Microchange line

Postby Bumblevivisector » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:22 pm

When Perceptor, Blaster, and the '85 Minibots were introduced in issues 17 and 18 of the Marvel U.S. book as the "Cybertron 7", we got to see 6 turn into their Cybertronian modes (well, Cosmos just never got an Earth mode, so he was the same), but only their leader Perceptor was left out. Never having his toy until reissues started happening, it didn't dawn on me until then that his toy can turn into what probably counts as his Cybertronian mode, sort of evening out the main toy cast of what I consider Bob Budianski's best story, and the best candidate for a one-off direct-to-video animated movie, if Hasbro ever tried to emulate what DC still routinely cranks out.

Okay, so the cast wouldn't be totally complete until we finally got Straxus and Scrounge, but it's ironic that even Perceptor's 3rd official mode didn't show up until 'Fallen Angel' in the UK comic shortly after.

Maybe the next list should be, Top 5 pre-Transformer concepts that Hasbro ignored, but showed up in fiction later on anyway?
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Re: Top 5 times G1 Transformer Toys Were Better in the Diaclone / Microchange line

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:34 pm

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This be a pretty interesting list. Didn't know that origial toy that would become Magnus had a transforming buddy. That would have been nice to include in ours. I still find that Diaclone colour layout for that toy so frickin' weird presuambly because I'm so used to the Hasbro Magnus toy (and yeah i seen the early footage of the movie that shows the original diaclone colours) so I do prefer the Magnus scheme.

With Swoop, while the blue one is nice, I do prefer the red version as that's what the Marvel comics used and I really liked Swoop in the Marvel UK stories he had where he was much more of a character than the cartoon one. Of course it didn't matter because here in the UK he was yet another character featured in our comic stories whose toy never came out in our stores! grr.
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Re: Top 5 times G1 Transformer Toys Were Better in the Diaclone / Microchange line

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:45 pm

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Kyoryu Robo 5 Pteranodon has another advantage over Swoop: the beak and tail haven't been dulled. I find it surprising that the 3P World's Smallest figures kept that detail.
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Re: Top 5 times G1 Transformer Toys Were Better in the Diaclone / Microchange line

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:54 pm

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Pretty interesting. I just learned a few things. But I will always prefer Swoop with the red chest because that's what he has in the far superior comics. I wish PotP would have released him with a red chest. [-(
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Postby TK415 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:46 pm

Great list WJ. Informative and interesting. Thanks man.
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Postby fenrir72 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:54 pm

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Takara version of Soundwave 1985 included the headphones. Only Hb scrimped on this.
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Re: Top 5 times G1 Transformer Toys Were Better in the Diaclone / Microchange line

Postby Black Bumblebee » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:43 pm

Gotta go with the Microchange version of Blaster, here. In the original version, it was a freaking working AM radio. You know that hole in Blaster's gun? That was for plugging in the single ear headphone.
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Postby Zeedust » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:52 pm

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Postby ausbot » Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:15 pm

Motto: "Don't want none, don't start none!"
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I wish the reissue magnus had his robo partner, and the Ironhide/Ratchet reissues had their drivers.
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Postby fenrir72 » Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:01 pm

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ausbot wrote:I wish the reissue magnus had his robo partner, and the Ironhide/Ratchet reissues had their drivers.


Funny that a few months before TF was officially released, Diakron in the USA failed miserably.

Those Diaclone drivers were amazing too. Despite their sizes, they were quite detailed. Heck, much detailed than Spike in the MP Convoy and MP UM. And were in die-cast. Too bad they won't pass the safety regs today (even back in 1984).
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Re: Top 5 times G1 Transformer Toys Were Better in the Diaclone / Microchange line

Postby TFBuyer » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:22 am

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Great list! Just watched the episode of The Toys That Made Us, and this was a great follow-up! ;)
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Re: Top 5 times G1 Transformer Toys Were Better in the Diaclone / Microchange line

Postby william-james88 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:29 am

TFBuyer wrote:Great list! Just watched the episode of The Toys That Made Us, and this was a great follow-up! ;)

ZeroWolf wrote:This will go down as one of my favourite lists that's been done. Thanks will :D

TK415 wrote:Great list WJ. Informative and interesting. Thanks man.


Thank you so much for the nice words. It makes writing the list all the more worthwhile to know you liked it.

Bumblevivisector wrote:Maybe the next list should be, Top 5 pre-Transformer concepts that Hasbro ignored, but showed up in fiction later on anyway?


Sounds like a cool list, but I wouldn't know enough examples myself to make a top 5. If could always be done by someone more knowledgeable than me in these matters.
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Postby shajaki » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:34 am

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Will Will Will.... you missed the best ones!

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Postby william-james88 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:43 am

shajaki wrote:Will Will Will.... you missed the best ones!



You are referring to the decos right? As in that is why they are better than sunstreaker and prowl?
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Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:28 am

Motto: "My past no longer binds my future..."
Weapon: Battle Blades
But the white sunstreaker now exists in tf lore as masterpiece cordon ;-)
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Postby william-james88 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:44 am

ZeroWolf wrote:But the white sunstreaker now exists in tf lore as masterpiece cordon ;-)

Yup, as does Blue Bluestreak.
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Postby Rysquad » Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:40 am

Love this list.

Could have used Titan Masters/Prime Masters like Diaclone pilots!

Seeing more about Powered Convoy, the more I want one. :/

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Re: Top 5 times G1 Transformer Toys Were Better in the Diaclone / Microchange line

Postby william-james88 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:45 am

Black Bumblebee wrote:Gotta go with the Microchange version of Blaster, here. In the original version, it was a freaking working AM radio. You know that hole in Blaster's gun? That was for plugging in the single ear headphone.

WHAT?! Cant believe I missed that. I might make an edit. This in incredible.
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Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:54 am

Motto: "My past no longer binds my future..."
Weapon: Battle Blades
But what would he replace in the list?
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Postby william-james88 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:02 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:But what would he replace in the list?

Soundwave, who is better suited in honourable mentions since there is technically a Transformers branded SOundawve who did come with those accessories (it was not a Hasbr product though).
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Postby Kyleor » Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:58 pm

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So how well do the current Titan Masters fit in past Diaclone/Microchge toys?
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