fenrir72 wrote:G1 Sunbow Skyfire?
JazZeke wrote:fenrir72 wrote:G1 Sunbow Skyfire?
I don't think he really counts because he was so obviously meant to be an Autobot from the get-go. The characters on the list all had to deal with major repercussions for their decisions that lead to greater story arcs.
Dagon wrote:ROTF Jetfire? "I am a Decepticon . . . oh, wait, they're the bad guys now? Then I'm an Autobot."
In order for him to have undergone some development as a character, wouldn't he have needed to be a character first?
Optimum Supreme wrote:
IDW Megatron, like most IDW, should be considered bad (if official) fan fic.
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
Ironhidensh wrote:Optimum Supreme wrote:
IDW Megatron, like most IDW, should be considered bad (if official) fan fic.
Wrong. I'm sorry, but this is just flat out wrong. Personal opinions aside, IDW has given the greatest transformers stories we've ever had.
IDW Megs should be #1 for one simple reason. IDW has made us actually care about Megatron.
President-prime wrote:I, too, like my Megatron "evil and conquering." Ever since he changed faction, I completely ignored picking up the comics. When I heard the phrase (or title), "All Hail Megatron," I was so happy I bought every since back issue to read. We all Know Megatron is Optimus' opposites, evil and menacing, but heroic, in a sense." Like Optimus, who "was" phrase as the almighty Prime, Megatron commands fear to all those who oppose him and to those who follows him. The Megatron now is boring and is "not Megatron." I'm sorry but "lost light" and any iteration with Megatron as an Autobit have lost my support. I bought all other comics except those titles. So, I guess Carnivus is not "wrong." Other fans do agree with him
Like Ravage said in his dying hours in Beast Wars, "Deceptivins, Forever."
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
dragons wrote:Dagon wrote:ROTF Jetfire? "I am a Decepticon . . . oh, wait, they're the bad guys now? Then I'm an Autobot."
In order for him to have undergone some development as a character, wouldn't he have needed to be a character first?
He was character he moved, he fought, he talked and he transformed combined with prime in end what can you ask for?
The purpose of this list is to look into those many characters that have left their faction in favor of either another faction or to abandon factions altogether. The list takes into account how important to the overall story the Transformer in question is with his/her actions and how this changed the course of that Transformers Series.
Yes ! I'm glad i'm not the only one to think that.Gauntlet101010 wrote:Someone mentioned Black Arachnia, and I gotta say, I totally agree. In some ways she even beats out Dinobot in this. Sure it was Dinobot's whole thing, but Black Arachnia really, actually, evolved into her role. The fact that she started out as a conniving schemer and became a totally trustworthy key member of the team is some pretty interesting stuff and it didn't just happen in one episode.
Rhinox/Tankorr was another good one. The key here is that he fully believed in Megatron's goals after becoming Tankorr. It wasn't just brainwashing, it was him.
Gingko wrote:Yes ! I'm glad i'm not the only one to think that.Gauntlet101010 wrote:Someone mentioned Black Arachnia, and I gotta say, I totally agree. In some ways she even beats out Dinobot in this. Sure it was Dinobot's whole thing, but Black Arachnia really, actually, evolved into her role. The fact that she started out as a conniving schemer and became a totally trustworthy key member of the team is some pretty interesting stuff and it didn't just happen in one episode.Rhinox/Tankorr was another good one. The key here is that he fully believed in Megatron's goals after becoming Tankorr. It wasn't just brainwashing, it was him.
Yeah I was thinking of him but, it's one of the few cases were i'm not ok with the story. I remember episods of Beast Wars where Rhinox was the very one to actually really enjoy organic life and peacefull meditation. Same way otpimus will do in Beast Machine.
And then Rhinox believe Megatron and his mecanic way ?! I don't understand this evolution.
President-prime wrote:And this is why Tankor should be number 1:)
It's out of left field and no one could have figured it out. That makes good storytelling and suspense. Tankor was supposed to be brainwashed by Megatron, after Optimus and the crew supposedly opened his mind, we thought he switched back to Maximal, but in his dark ind clouded with conquest the the idea of him being ruler of Cybertron, continues to plot his evil plan in secret. This is good storytelling. It's dark, but I enjoyed it. In the eyes of abandoning faction, Tankor "Obliterate!" The competition.
Burn wrote:Let it be known, I murdered Amelie.
Accidentally.
JazZeke wrote:So yeah, F Beast Machines and F Dan Didio not just for that, but for what he's done to DC too.
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I agree with both your points Gingko. Blackarachnia is a good one, and one a good bit better the more I see people talk about. If I had written this last more recently, I would replace Sentinel with Blackarachnia. You guys are right, she really is a good one, same with Armada Starscream. Eesh, tough
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