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Counterpunch wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:Honestly, Astrotrain's cartoon robot mode sucked. He looked like a generic box man with basically no distinguishing features whatsoever. The chest wing adds some character to his design. And that's not even touching on the fact his cartoon colour scheme was an error caused by the production team getting photos of a prototype instead of the final figure.

Yup.

People always remember the 86 movie scene with Astrotrain and I'm all like, "What about ZONE DEFENSE?"

Astrotrain thought he could beat Megatron with an army of Earth trains. He is dumber than a 1950's comic book villain.

You could say...

...he went loco.

Delta Magnus wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:Honestly, Astrotrain's cartoon robot mode sucked. He looked like a generic box man with basically no distinguishing features whatsoever. The chest wing adds some character to his design. And that's not even touching on the fact his cartoon colour scheme was an error caused by the production team getting photos of a prototype instead of the final figure.

Yup.

People always remember the 86 movie scene with Astrotrain and I'm all like, "What about ZONE DEFENSE?"

Astrotrain thought he could beat Megatron with an army of Earth trains. He is dumber than a 1950's comic book villain.

You could say...

...he went loco.

Delta Magnus wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:Honestly, Astrotrain's cartoon robot mode sucked. He looked like a generic box man with basically no distinguishing features whatsoever. The chest wing adds some character to his design. And that's not even touching on the fact his cartoon colour scheme was an error caused by the production team getting photos of a prototype instead of the final figure.

Yup.

People always remember the 86 movie scene with Astrotrain and I'm all like, "What about ZONE DEFENSE?"

Astrotrain thought he could beat Megatron with an army of Earth trains. He is dumber than a 1950's comic book villain.

You could say...

...he went loco.

I'll allow it.

Delta Magnus wrote:Honestly, Astrotrain's cartoon robot mode sucked. He looked like a generic box man with basically no distinguishing features whatsoever. The chest wing adds some character to his design. And that's not even touching on the fact his cartoon colour scheme was an error caused by the production team getting photos of a prototype instead of the final figure.

I disagree. The chest wing makes the figure look even more toyish and less life like. Kind of like something that was just stuck there due to 1980's engineering. In hand to hand combat that stupid thing would get ripped right off, so it made sense to have it tuck itself in for robot mode. And even with the cartoon deco being a prototype, it still blew the actual toy deco out the water.

Speaking of prototype decos, Am I the only one on here who recieved TFCC 3.0 Nacelle in the mail today ? I noticed the lack of this news on both sites today. My friend got his too. Sadly theres a running error on all of them in which the back tailfins are miss assembled on purpose because the tampo was accidentally painted upside down. So the fins point down in jet mode and it looks horrible.

necr0blivion wrote:So I'm sure you already know about DX9's Chigurh, which is really too tall for a Classics collection and also has the chest fin. There's also Machine Boy's attempt, but he also has a chest fin.

Maybe waiting is best for you.

Probably right good sir, but the new color scheme helps tremendously if nothing comes about this would be the one i settle for.

I'm torn on this figure... Kind of want it, but also want something that scales slightly better or has a more solidly IDW look.

Rated X wrote:I disagree. The chest wing makes the figure look even more toyish and less life like. Kind of like something that was just stuck there due to 1980's engineering. In hand to hand combat that stupid thing would get ripped right off, so it made sense to have it tuck itself in for robot mode.

I think you're reading far to much into it. Its simply kibble, which almost all TF's have.

shajaki wrote:

Rated X wrote:I disagree. The chest wing makes the figure look even more toyish and less life like. Kind of like something that was just stuck there due to 1980's engineering. In hand to hand combat that stupid thing would get ripped right off, so it made sense to have it tuck itself in for robot mode.

I think you're reading far to much into it. Its simply kibble, which almost all TF's have.

Well there is some kibble that just looks dumb to me, and astrotrains chest wing is definitely on my top 5 list. Im inclined to believe the G1 cartoon animators felt the same way because they had every chance in the world to draw it in so many episodes astrotrain was featured in. They elected not to.

Rated X wrote:

shajaki wrote:

Rated X wrote:I disagree. The chest wing makes the figure look even more toyish and less life like. Kind of like something that was just stuck there due to 1980's engineering. In hand to hand combat that stupid thing would get ripped right off, so it made sense to have it tuck itself in for robot mode.

I think you're reading far to much into it. Its simply kibble, which almost all TF's have.

Well there is some kibble that just looks dumb to me, and astrotrains chest wing is definitely on my top 5 list. Im inclined to believe the G1 cartoon animators felt the same way because they had every chance in the world to draw it in so many episodes astrotrain was featured in. They elected not to.

Just as the animators locked themselves into the mistaken gray deco, I can see them having done the same with the chest wing. Maybe an error, maybe not, but I think you're reading too much into it.

That said, Evila Star's chest wing does bother me, but not because it's there; more because it's a tad too big for my taste.

megatronus wrote:

Rated X wrote:

shajaki wrote:

Rated X wrote:I disagree. The chest wing makes the figure look even more toyish and less life like. Kind of like something that was just stuck there due to 1980's engineering. In hand to hand combat that stupid thing would get ripped right off, so it made sense to have it tuck itself in for robot mode.

I think you're reading far to much into it. Its simply kibble, which almost all TF's have.

Well there is some kibble that just looks dumb to me, and astrotrains chest wing is definitely on my top 5 list. Im inclined to believe the G1 cartoon animators felt the same way because they had every chance in the world to draw it in so many episodes astrotrain was featured in. They elected not to.

Just as the animators locked themselves into the mistaken gray deco, I can see them having done the same with the chest wing. Maybe an error, maybe not, but I think you're reading too much into it.

That said, Evila Star's chest wing does bother me, but not because it's there; more because it's a tad too big for my taste.

Did the prototype picture of the vintage toy have the chest wing tucked in ? That could be a possible reason for its absence in the cartoon. Either way I hate that damn wing, lol.

Rated X wrote:Speaking of prototype decos, Am I the only one on here who recieved TFCC 3.0 Nacelle in the mail today ? I noticed the lack of this news on both sites today. My friend got his too. Sadly theres a running error on all of them in which the back tailfins are miss assembled on purpose because the tampo was accidentally painted upside down. So the fins point down in jet mode and it looks horrible.

I received mine yesterday but didn't notice this, but did notice how easy the wings come off the figure. Was frustrating during transformation and makes me happy this mold has "been retired". Even though I still think the Club owes us a Red Wing since they already teased the figure in the Classics mold.