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News Credits: 293 · Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:54 pm

william-james88 wrote:I really hope this guy isnt prone to breaking though, there seem to be so many minute parts and flaps invovled.

i can attest to TW. their stuff is rock solid. give him toon colors, and im there man.

Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:10 pm

I personally like this colour scheme. The 85 Japanese release coulours. It's something different. Plus it looks better in shuttle and train mode.

I'm gonna buy it.

News Credits: 4877 · Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:23 pm

The colours dont bother me, the headscuplt doesnt bother me, the feet bother me a little but what I am most curious about are shots from under the space shuttle and the back of the train, which they meticulously left out. Is it safe to assume that behind the train are the rockets boosters?

Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:28 am

william-james88 wrote:The colours dont bother me, the headscuplt doesnt bother me, the feet bother me a little but what I am most curious about are shots from under the space shuttle and the back of the train, which they meticulously left out. Is it safe to assume that behind the train are the rockets boosters?

The rocket boosters are the front part of the train. Notice the smoke stack right at the rear end of the shuttle:

News Credits: 4877 · Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:04 am

Thanks for that! Makes me almost sure to buy him. Anyone know why he's called Spacetrain at certain online outlets?

News Credits: 4 · Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:21 pm

william-james88 wrote: Anyone know why he's called Spacetrain at certain online outlets?

No

Guessing they might not like to use the word, Devil.

News Credits: 4877 · Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:43 am

MGrotusque wrote:I personally like this colour scheme. The 85 Japanese release coulours. It's something different. Plus it looks better in shuttle and train mode.

I'm gonna buy it.

I thought it was the Hasbro release they were imitating. But this time with a more uniform black train mode.

Do we know how tall this guy is? Would he be smaller than MP-10?

News Credits: 4 · Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:28 pm

william-james88 wrote: Do we know how tall this guy is? Would he be smaller than MP-10?

ToyWorld and Chimungmung.com, Has TW Devilstar listed with a 22.5 cm robot height. Which translates into a 8.9 inch robot height. MP-10 has a 9.4 inch robot height.

G1 cartoon Blitzwing and Astrotrain in robot modes were never shown taller than Megatron and Optimus. They were shown a pinch shorter.

News Credits: 129 · Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:43 pm

I want this, but I'm worried they will do a revised color version six months later and like an idiot, I'll buy it too.

News Credits: 33 · Wed Feb 04, 2015 5:05 pm

Looks like i'm the only one not feeling this , Guess Chigurh will be my Citizen Stacks

Tsutsukakushi wrote:ToyWorld and Chimungmung.com, Has TW Devilstar listed with a 22.5 cm robot height. Which translates into a 8.9 inch robot height. MP-10 has a 9.4 inch robot height.

G1 cartoon Blitzwing and Astrotrain in robot modes were never shown taller than Megatron and Optimus. They were shown a pinch shorter.

Yeah not a good idea to use the cartoon as reference for TF height , we all know the crazy sh*t that went on in the 80's toon .

Best to use the scale charts , your right about Asstrotrain , Blitzwing however is a tiny bit taller than Optimus .

News Credits: 4 · Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:01 pm

Prefer the Takara toy colors better than the Hasbro toy colors.

News Credits: 4877 · Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:10 pm

Tsutsukakushi wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
MGrotusque wrote:I personally like this colour scheme. The 85 Japanese release coulours. It's something different. Plus it looks better in shuttle and train mode.

I'm gonna buy it.

I thought it was the Hasbro release they were imitating. But this time with a more uniform black train mode.

Prefer the Takara toy colors as the vehicle modes are more real world colored accurate.

Never seen a purple locomotive train before or a purple and white Nasa space shuttle.

Well at least now we all know what these guys are trying to pull off and while for many its not what they wanted, for me this has become an instant buy since I realize even the MP one day wont do this.

News Credits: 4 · Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:31 pm

With a Chimungmung.com, release date in under Five days for Devilstar. Wondering when the box art will get revealed.

Hoping the Import sites in the states get Devilstar in stock sooner than they did TW Infinitor.

Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:00 pm

Autobot Genocide wrote:I dont like this one .

Just not a fan of the G1 toy looking head chest and colors .

I am not sold on the looks either, I really like the way the DX9 Chigurh looks. The shuttle mode looks a more modern and the steam loco mode looks really clean. IF it ends up actually being a quality figure I will be looking into buying that. That and it would scale better with MPs.

News Credits: 293 · Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:14 pm

Counterpunch wrote:I want this, but I'm worried they will do a revised color version six months later and like an idiot, I'll buy it too.

same here. ill be waiting for his eventual grey/purple glory.

something might add, between both trains, you dont necessarily have to display him with MP's. im toying around with the idea of keeping him in alt mode and displaying him classics style.

Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:30 pm

Autobot Genocide wrote:Looks like i'm the only one not feeling this , Guess Chigurh will be my Citizen Stacks

Tsutsukakushi wrote:ToyWorld and Chimungmung.com, Has TW Devilstar listed with a 22.5 cm robot height. Which translates into a 8.9 inch robot height. MP-10 has a 9.4 inch robot height.

G1 cartoon Blitzwing and Astrotrain in robot modes were never shown taller than Megatron and Optimus. They were shown a pinch shorter.

Yeah not a good idea to use the cartoon as reference for TF height , we all know the crazy sh*t that went on in the 80's toon .

Best to use the scale charts , your right about Asstrotrain , Blitzwing however is a tiny bit taller than Optimus .

I really want to know what year this scale chart was drawn. So many fans swear by it. If it was actually used in the 80s by the sunbow artists for scale reference then I can respect it. But if it was drawn years later by hasbro/takara just to settle fan arguments then I think its debatable. If I was an original sunbow artist, I wouldnt take kindly to someone else trying to interpret my artwork choices without consulting me for my opinions.

News Credits: 293 · Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:45 pm

i think fans just throw it out there as a joke.

News Credits: 4 · Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:14 am

Haven't a clue where this scale chart a few replies above came from. Guessing it's some unofficial scale chart that was created by some know it all fan. That might have been put in one of those fan made toy catalogs books.

:lol:

Looking at the scale chart, It's already got some wrong scale references in it. As the scale chart shows Optimus as being half the height of Devastator. In the G1 Cartoon, Devastators hand is the size of optimus. Also in the G1 Cartoon Omega is not a few heads taller than Devastator, they are the same height :lol:

More scale chart errors. In the G1 cartoon, Optimus is a few heads taller than Inferno, Grapple and Hoist. Not only a head taller, like this scale chart above suggest. :lol:

News Credits: 122 · Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:12 am

I was under the impression that was the original scale chart provided to the artists for reference. As we know, it wasn't exactly followed in every episode, and ignored in others, but officially that's what it was supposed to be.

News Credits: 33 · Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:18 am

Evila star .

News Credits: 33 · Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:20 am

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Haven't a clue where this scale chart a few replies above came from. Guessing it's some unofficial scale chart that was created by some know it all fan. That might have been put in one of those fan made toy catalogs books.

Looking at the scale chart, It's already got some wrong scale references in it. As the scale chart shows Optimus as being half the height of Devastator. In the G1 Cartoon, Devastators hand is the size of optimus. Also in the G1 Cartoon Omega is not a few heads taller than Devastator, they are the same height

More scale chart errors. In the G1 cartoon, Optimus is a few heads taller than Inferno, Grapple and Hoist. Not only a head taller, like this scale chart above suggest.

In the G1 cartoon i wouldn't be surprised to see bumblebee head-butting the sh*t out of devastator .

I don't see whats so funny about the scale charts be it from sunbow or just made up either way it scales all the characters out fairly decent and does a much better job than the cartoon .

Personally i don't have time to press pause and whip out a tape measure to see how often character stay the same height .

News Credits: 10 · Thu Feb 05, 2015 10:39 am

Autobot Genocide wrote:

That box art has a very Macross-esq look to it. I like it. Really, this figure is growing on me. If I wasn't as happy as I am with Classics, and if I wasn't saving my money for something else, I'd be getting this...

News Credits: 4877 · Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:40 pm

Agamemnon wrote:That box art has a very Macross-esq look to it. I like it. Really, this figure is growing on me. If I wasn't as happy as I am with Classics, and if I wasn't saving my money for something else, I'd be getting this...

Maybe I misread, but do you mean you preffer the Hasbro classics astrotrain over this one?

News Credits: 4 · Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:35 pm

Autobot Genocide wrote:Evila star .

Thanks for the pics.

Noticed and like the new name change. Speculating Evila is less harsh than using Devil.

Love the Box art style and pics. TW shines at creating breath taking pretty boxes.

Think this, Evila, is on the same level of must have that UT Mania King is.

News Credits: 10 · Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:23 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:That box art has a very Macross-esq look to it. I like it. Really, this figure is growing on me. If I wasn't as happy as I am with Classics, and if I wasn't saving my money for something else, I'd be getting this...

Maybe I misread, but do you mean you preffer the Hasbro classics astrotrain over this one?

I don't know that I'd go that far. This is probably a case of liking what I already have. I am very happy with Classics Astrotrain. I like this one. I don't know that I like this one enough more to get it and replace my already owned Hasbro one.

If I didn't already have Classics Astrotrain and I was trying to choose between the two...I don't honestly know which way I'd go. This looks a lot better than I thought it would.

Plus, I do tend to prefer to go with Has-Tak releases in my collection, unless a 3P is just so much more awesome. *coughBrainstormcough*

I should take something for my cold....