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First-Aid wrote:amtm wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:What in Christ's name is that!? Usually, I've been supporting M Bay's TF movies, but I just cant do it this time! He has finally done it. Michael Bay has finally ruined Transformers.
What you mean is he's managed to ruin Transformers THREE TIMES IN A ROW! World record!!!
Yep, he ruined it for you but obviously not for the hundreds of thousands who watched and enjoyed the movies.
UM Prime wrote:First-Aid wrote:amtm wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:What in Christ's name is that!? Usually, I've been supporting M Bay's TF movies, but I just cant do it this time! He has finally done it. Michael Bay has finally ruined Transformers.
What you mean is he's managed to ruin Transformers THREE TIMES IN A ROW! World record!!!
Yep, he ruined it for you but obviously not for the hundreds of thousands who watched and enjoyed the movies.
lets not forget all those people are not transformers fans and they probably dont know alot about transformers you can like the movie but bay has ruined them for me i like the comics on the movies but not the movies
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
SoooTrypticon wrote:Or they could just write a decent story that focused on relatable characters and decent action pieces with real conflict.
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Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
First-Aid wrote:Besides, we all know that actors read scripts before signing on and I really don't expect John Malkovich- a tremendously talented actor- to sign on for a movie that's mind-numbingly stupid.
Midnight_Fox wrote:First-Aid wrote:Besides, we all know that actors read scripts before signing on and I really don't expect John Malkovich- a tremendously talented actor- to sign on for a movie that's mind-numbingly stupid.
Yeah, we'll leave that to Samuel L. Jackson(Snakes on a Plane) and Ron Perlman(Mutant Chornicles).
Autobot032 wrote:Midnight_Fox wrote:First-Aid wrote:Besides, we all know that actors read scripts before signing on and I really don't expect John Malkovich- a tremendously talented actor- to sign on for a movie that's mind-numbingly stupid.
Yeah, we'll leave that to Samuel L. Jackson(Snakes on a Plane) and Ron Perlman(Mutant Chornicles).
Now wait a minute, Mutant Chronicles wasn't what I expected it to be, but it wasn't mind-numbingly stupid. It was well made, the visuals impressive, and the acting top notch. I'll grant you that the story didn't really win people over, but it's far better than Snakes On A Plane.
Midnight_Fox wrote:Autobot032 wrote:Midnight_Fox wrote:First-Aid wrote:Besides, we all know that actors read scripts before signing on and I really don't expect John Malkovich- a tremendously talented actor- to sign on for a movie that's mind-numbingly stupid.
Yeah, we'll leave that to Samuel L. Jackson(Snakes on a Plane) and Ron Perlman(Mutant Chornicles).
Now wait a minute, Mutant Chronicles wasn't what I expected it to be, but it wasn't mind-numbingly stupid. It was well made, the visuals impressive, and the acting top notch. I'll grant you that the story didn't really win people over, but it's far better than Snakes On A Plane.
Have you ever played Mutant Chronicles?
It was a bad interpretation of the game.
We'll also just have to agree to disagree on how well made or impressive the visuals are.
Autobot032 wrote:There's a game? O_o
I had no idea. It was on HDNet and HDNet Movies before it came to DVD and it was free so I checked it out. Until now I had no idea it was more than just a movie.
Midnight_Fox wrote:Autobot032 wrote:There's a game? O_o
I had no idea. It was on HDNet and HDNet Movies before it came to DVD and it was free so I checked it out. Until now I had no idea it was more than just a movie.
It's based off of an old Pen and Paper RPG that also had a tabletop miniatures game. There were also some video games, comics, novels, and card games.
Part of the reason it got a bad reception was because of the history behind it(not unlike Bay's films, actually).
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
Exactly. Its not like anyone has had a friend like movie Bumble Bee that sticks by your side through thick and thin and helps you out in your time of need. Or someone like Optimus who puts everyones elese well being in front of his own. Don't know about you, but i do have people like that i could relate to.
Or maybe you haven't come across anyone like that in your life. If thats the case, then i'm sorry.
as far as stories go, TF has never been about stories. It was about robots beating the crap out of each other, whitch is what we got. As far as action goes, sorry. Your just plain wrong. Action was top notch. The "Skaky cam" was taken care of in ROTF. Nearly every robot action scene was slowed down a bit, or done in complete slow motion. So there really is no room what-so-ever to bitch about that.
SoooTrypticon wrote:Optimus dies only because the writers wanted him to. The other Robots just disappear for convenience. That's not sacrifice, that's ugly and ill-considered plot mechanics.
But then it's not about the Robots being well written characters- it's actually about them blowing each other up.
...the humans are flatly written pieces of cardboard with little chance of fostering a personal connection...
The films are a transparent cash grab not even attempting to carry a decent story or single well crafted character.
What confounds me is that almost every other iteration of Transformers has managed to dish out better story-telling...
As far as action goes- you can slow down a mess- but it just looks like a mess in slow motion.
Action works when you care about characters and understand what is at stake.
amtm wrote:Those defending the film are missing the point: We're not complaining that it's "different" from G1 or other iterations of Transformers, we're complaining that it fails miserably on every level as a movie.
SoooTrypticon wrote:*snippity*
Burn wrote:amtm wrote:I just fail to see the point in STILL complaining about the movies.
amtm wrote:Burn wrote:amtm wrote:I just fail to see the point in STILL complaining about the movies.
Burn, I understand. But, it is a forum, and forums are there to share info and opinions, so...not sure there's any harm in complaining about the movies, either. Lots of people are complaining about the Movie 3 face on this thread, and I think many have good points. Anyway, I guess next time I'll try to remember to leave it alone. Thanks.
amtm wrote:Burn wrote:amtm wrote:I just fail to see the point in STILL complaining about the movies.
Burn, I understand. But, it is a forum, and forums are there to share info and opinions, so...not sure there's any harm in complaining about the movies, either. Lots of people are complaining about the Movie 3 face on this thread, and I think many have good points. Anyway, I guess next time I'll try to remember to leave it alone. Thanks.
SoooTrypticon wrote:But that's what I'm saying. I understand people like the movies. Like I said, I like terrible movies too.
But that doesn't change that they're terrible movies.
Transformers deserved better treatment than it got. That's just how the cards were dealt unfortunately.
I buy up the classics/generations/reissues/animated toys and largely ignore the films- except when the attempt is made to pass the films off as quality- because they aren't.
I have zero anticipation/excitement for the films- and when I see the hype machine roll into gear for them on this site, like it did the last two- it bothers me.
Remember when everyone was all exited Soundwave was going to be in the last movie- and then he was a tentacle rape monster that didn't even have a vocoder effect on his voice and one lame toy?
How many toys did Skids and Mudflap get again?
The inclusion of Shockwave and Einstein-bot only deepen my loathing of these films- because yet again the filmmakers are trying to trick fans into thinking their product is worth buying, all the while being upfront about the big hairy mess the films actually are.
Burn wrote:So let's just drop things and get this thread back on topic.
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