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Bumblebee was never a Beetle in the 07 movie.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:whereas Bumblebee ended with Bee ditching his VW Bug altmode and scanning a mint-condition version of the 70s Camaro altmode that he would later have in a beat-up form at the beginning of the 2007 movie, in a blatant attempt to connect the Bumblebee movie to the 2007 movie.
Except, as we all know, BB started off as a VW Beetle in Bayformers '07 and Prime came to Earth in that movie.
And Prime's arrival on Earth in the '07 movie was never outright stated to be his first time visiting, just his first time meeting Sam.Rodimus Prime wrote:Bumblebee was never a Beetle in the 07 movie.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:whereas Bumblebee ended with Bee ditching his VW Bug altmode and scanning a mint-condition version of the 70s Camaro altmode that he would later have in a beat-up form at the beginning of the 2007 movie, in a blatant attempt to connect the Bumblebee movie to the 2007 movie.
Except, as we all know, BB started off as a VW Beetle in Bayformers '07 and Prime came to Earth in that movie.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Rodimus Prime wrote:Bumblebee was never a Beetle in the 07 movie.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:whereas Bumblebee ended with Bee ditching his VW Bug altmode and scanning a mint-condition version of the 70s Camaro altmode that he would later have in a beat-up form at the beginning of the 2007 movie, in a blatant attempt to connect the Bumblebee movie to the 2007 movie.
Except, as we all know, BB started off as a VW Beetle in Bayformers '07 and Prime came to Earth in that movie.
Sabrblade wrote:And Prime's arrival on Earth in the '07 movie was never outright stated to be his first time visiting, just his first time meeting Sam.
If anything, Optimus coming to Earth in 1987 and then coming back to it in 2007 is no different from George Lucas changing his mind about Darth Vader murdering Anakin Skywalker in A New Hope to have Darth Vader be Anakin Skywalker in The Empire Strikes Back.
What about her? ROTF is set later, so in this movie she's neither split into three yet nor dead yet.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:And Prime's arrival on Earth in the '07 movie was never outright stated to be his first time visiting, just his first time meeting Sam.
If anything, Optimus coming to Earth in 1987 and then coming back to it in 2007 is no different from George Lucas changing his mind about Darth Vader murdering Anakin Skywalker in A New Hope to have Darth Vader be Anakin Skywalker in The Empire Strikes Back.
Yet there is also Arcee...
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:What about her? ROTF is set later, so in this movie she's neither split into three yet nor dead yet.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:whereas Bumblebee ended with Bee ditching his VW Bug altmode and scanning a mint-condition version of the 70s Camaro altmode that he would later have in a beat-up form at the beginning of the 2007 movie, in a blatant attempt to connect the Bumblebee movie to the 2007 movie.
Except, as we all know, BB started off as a VW Beetle in Bayformers '07 and Prime came to Earth in that movie.
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One for each year of the Movieverse's decade strong tenure. Here's to a few more explosive years!
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I don't think there is any fan of Prime's outright murderous incarnation in Bayformers, over any of the others.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Dark of the Moon. The way he executes Sentinel (an unarmed prisoner) and Megatron is definitely murderous.
The way the Autobots rip off faces, spinal columns etc Yet the Cons don't really go that far onscreen. Yet are supposed to be the "bad guys".
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Bumblebee was never a Beetle in the 07 movie.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:whereas Bumblebee ended with Bee ditching his VW Bug altmode and scanning a mint-condition version of the 70s Camaro altmode that he would later have in a beat-up form at the beginning of the 2007 movie, in a blatant attempt to connect the Bumblebee movie to the 2007 movie.
Except, as we all know, BB started off as a VW Beetle in Bayformers '07 and Prime came to Earth in that movie.
Indeed. Misremembered the dealership scene.Wherein they poked fun at the VW beetle, next to BB. To be fair, it's probably been at least ten years since I sat through '07 or any other Bayformers really.
It's funny though. Because they went back and forth with BB as spin-off, prequel or reboot. Then said it was a reboot and now they are saying ROTB isn't.
That's basically just the plot of the Netflix Kingdom cartoon.Burn wrote:Honestly, it's not that much of a stretch to make this a reboot whilst simultaneously not being a reboot.
Following The Last Knight, Unicron emerges, whatever happens, he wins. Jump forward a few years later and there's a small group of Cybertronians resisting Unicron who decided to go all Terminator style and travel back in time to stop Unicron before he rises.
Unicron then sends a now fully corrupted Bayverse Optimus Prime (who you could argue has been steadily influenced by Unicron during his time on Earth, hence the murderous ways, and then pushed further by Quintessa) now known as Scourge and a bunch of other corrupted Cybertronians known as Terrorcons back in time to stop the Maximals.
...
At the end of Rise of the Beasts when all is said or done, we Star Trek it and a new Kelvin time line is established, thus a reboot that's not a reboot.
It's not that hard to imagine all this happening, but, I've seen how terribly written these movies are and none of this will occur and will once again established that these movies are barely continuous.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:That's basically just the plot of the Netflix Kingdom cartoon.Burn wrote:Honestly, it's not that much of a stretch to make this a reboot whilst simultaneously not being a reboot.
Following The Last Knight, Unicron emerges, whatever happens, he wins. Jump forward a few years later and there's a small group of Cybertronians resisting Unicron who decided to go all Terminator style and travel back in time to stop Unicron before he rises.
Unicron then sends a now fully corrupted Bayverse Optimus Prime (who you could argue has been steadily influenced by Unicron during his time on Earth, hence the murderous ways, and then pushed further by Quintessa) now known as Scourge and a bunch of other corrupted Cybertronians known as Terrorcons back in time to stop the Maximals.
...
At the end of Rise of the Beasts when all is said or done, we Star Trek it and a new Kelvin time line is established, thus a reboot that's not a reboot.
It's not that hard to imagine all this happening, but, I've seen how terribly written these movies are and none of this will occur and will once again established that these movies are barely continuous.
Burn wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That's basically just the plot of the Netflix Kingdom cartoon.Burn wrote:Honestly, it's not that much of a stretch to make this a reboot whilst simultaneously not being a reboot.
Following The Last Knight, Unicron emerges, whatever happens, he wins. Jump forward a few years later and there's a small group of Cybertronians resisting Unicron who decided to go all Terminator style and travel back in time to stop Unicron before he rises.
Unicron then sends a now fully corrupted Bayverse Optimus Prime (who you could argue has been steadily influenced by Unicron during his time on Earth, hence the murderous ways, and then pushed further by Quintessa) now known as Scourge and a bunch of other corrupted Cybertronians known as Terrorcons back in time to stop the Maximals.
...
At the end of Rise of the Beasts when all is said or done, we Star Trek it and a new Kelvin time line is established, thus a reboot that's not a reboot.
It's not that hard to imagine all this happening, but, I've seen how terribly written these movies are and none of this will occur and will once again established that these movies are barely continuous.
Hence why I'm not expecting anything overly original, but just a rework of things that have already occurred in other media.
First-Aid wrote:Sentinel was nothing but rage, anger, and betrayal. I can't blame him for that at all. He betrayed him and killed his best friend in cold Energon,
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
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