SpaceEagle wrote:Trailer looked pretty cool, seems like it'll at least have some good action scenes. Kinda surprised they jumped to the biggest bad of them all with Unicron, though.
I'm surprised too. So far, in all the merch and interviews, the main villains were always said to be the terrorcons. And now, this trailer makes them an afterthought or just an appetizer to the main course.
The lack of Unicron in the test screenings does make me worry that most of what we see of him is in the trailer, which I think will piss a lot of people off. Reminds me of how The Last Knight centered all its marketing on Evil Optimus and his big face off with Bumblebee when that was a minor bit in the film and Bumblebee was never really in danger due to his new reassembly powers.
Also, really crazy how we go from Unicron in TLK and then they dial it down to a much smaller level in Bumblebee, and then with that slight success and good faith, they bring it right back to Unicron. Though I do always support going for broke. Aquaman did that, the Fast and Furious films do that, it can work.
o.supreme wrote:It's just certain producers at Paramount trying to say all the live action films take place in the same continuity when that clearly isn't possible.
It's not just the producer, it's the official stance from Paramount in any printed form (magazine articles, newspapers, ect) when describing a link to the previous movies in the franchise. Here's another example from total film where they make it clear where it fits with the Shia Leboef movies:
https://twitter.com/AlfonsoNation/statu ... 90/photo/3And I agree, it's all nonsense. But I preffer that than calling this a reboot because that just cheapens the word. Let's say this very same film was instead said to be a reboot by Paramount, it would have no benefits of a reboot. It's the same vision and visual style, and has callbacks to Bay elements. When fans ask for a reboot, do they just mean it doesn't have to connect to every story established in previous movies (which is what this is) or do they want a new vision? Like having a Bumblebee who has a different face and talks, doing a film from the point of view of the robots, ect.
Munkky wrote:Unicron being in this movie makes me think they're doing a sort of "half-way" reboot-prequel that only acknowledges one or two past movies as canon and ignores everything else. Slasher movie franchises do this a lot, Halloween is notorious for it, being like a Choose Your Own Adventure book with the various timelines at this point, and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre does it too. It seems like Rise of the Beasts is at the very least ignoring The Last Knight, and possibly Age of Extinction too, which I don't mind too much.
Yes, they are doing exactly that, but I feel they've been doing that since the second film, honestly, when they started retconning stuff. Your slasher film example is good and I would add that this reminds me of the Batman films in the 90s and the Bond films before Craig. All examples of films that are meant to be enjoyed as single entities but also connected within a singular film franchise.
Anyways, I would HIGHLY recommend that no one waste any time or braincells trying to make sense of this. Hasbro/Paramount give it 0 thought, so why should you? Let's just enjoy what we can of it.