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TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:There is no series in the history of cinema with a worse sense of continuity than the Highlander franchise.
TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:There is no series in the history of cinema with a worse sense of continuity than the Highlander franchise.
Spider5800 wrote:The way they've marketed these, I think they're only setting these up as prequels to the first three films and ignoring AoE and TLK entirely. Kind of like how the Halloween movies basically ignored the films everyone hated and made sequels that were essentially reboots of the continuity.
And honestly? I can't blame them. I doubt the greater movie going public liked or even remembered those last two Bay films.
So with that in mind, I wouldn't count on anything we learned about Unicron in TLK to matter. Could still be Earth, could be a whole other thing, but I doubt anything we learned in later movies will be referenced here.
I hope it’s not a cheesy answer, but I want people to be able to connect with the new Transformers that we’re creating. Yes, I definitely want people to connect with the humans, too, because they now look like us more than ever in this film. But, if anything, I just really want people to be able to emotionally connect with the Transformers that you know and the new [Transformers] that we’re bringing to the table. I’m not here to just create robots for you to say, “Yeah, that was cool. That was fun.” I want you to be like, “I really truly care about [Optimus] Primal. I really truly care about Airazor and these other characters,” because this is the foundation for what I would love the franchise to be going forward. And a lot of the stuff in this film is a huge setup for where the franchise can go, so I’m excited for people to check that out.
william-james88 wrote:We have our most comprehensive interview yet with Transformers Rise of the Beasts' director Steven Caple Jr. While it reinforces many elements which fans have expressed disliking, like the push for diversity, rap culture, Michael Bay helping with the film and ensuring the preservation of the Bayverse, it does give us something very refreshing compared to all other Transformers films: a focus on the robots as characters the audience can truly care about. While we did have that with Bumblebee, that film was centered around the nostalgic concept of a human befriending an alien creature (who could not talk), learning about our world. This film instead is about teams of robots, each made up of distinct characters, with their own personalities and reasons for acting as they do.
Here is the blurb concerning what the director hopes to accomplish with this film and you can read the entire interview from the Hollywood Reporter here.I hope it’s not a cheesy answer, but I want people to be able to connect with the new Transformers that we’re creating. Yes, I definitely want people to connect with the humans, too, because they now look like us more than ever in this film. But, if anything, I just really want people to be able to emotionally connect with the Transformers that you know and the new [Transformers] that we’re bringing to the table. I’m not here to just create robots for you to say, “Yeah, that was cool. That was fun.” I want you to be like, “I really truly care about [Optimus] Primal. I really truly care about Airazor and these other characters,” because this is the foundation for what I would love the franchise to be going forward. And a lot of the stuff in this film is a huge setup for where the franchise can go, so I’m excited for people to check that out.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
william-james88 wrote:By the way, while I really want this film to succeed, and I think it's doing everything right with the marketing, I truly think the Flash will wipe the floor with TF ROTB.
I think the Flash will be a juggernaut, an event type movie, and suck up all the hype or good word of mouth ROTB may have.
We'll see what happens but this is my prediction. ROTB will have a strong opening week and then a massive drop (like over 60%) for the following week and then just keep dropping and having little stay factor in cinemas, being pushed to digital quickly to recoup costs there.
ZeroWolf wrote:william-james88 wrote:By the way, while I really want this film to succeed, and I think it's doing everything right with the marketing, I truly think the Flash will wipe the floor with TF ROTB.
I think the Flash will be a juggernaut, an event type movie, and suck up all the hype or good word of mouth ROTB may have.
We'll see what happens but this is my prediction. ROTB will have a strong opening week and then a massive drop (like over 60%) for the following week and then just keep dropping and having little stay factor in cinemas, being pushed to digital quickly to recoup costs there.
Sadly, you're probably right. Though at least this (and GotG3) would be the only movies I'd probably see currently.
DeathReviews wrote:They won't get me to 'care' about the Transformers if they give me the usual Bayverse grossly exaggerated stereotype treatments. We shall see.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:william-james88 wrote:By the way, while I really want this film to succeed, and I think it's doing everything right with the marketing, I truly think the Flash will wipe the floor with TF ROTB.
I think the Flash will be a juggernaut, an event type movie, and suck up all the hype or good word of mouth ROTB may have.
We'll see what happens but this is my prediction. ROTB will have a strong opening week and then a massive drop (like over 60%) for the following week and then just keep dropping and having little stay factor in cinemas, being pushed to digital quickly to recoup costs there.
Sadly, you're probably right. Though at least this (and GotG3) would be the only movies I'd probably see currently.
With a 7 year old girl and a 5 year old boy, I'll probably be at the movies all through the coming weeks. We've got Little Mermaid, ROTB, The Flash, Elemental and Indiana Jones. All films I'm planning on watching. It's really packed, the films sudios should have left room for these movies to breathe.
Many has expressed disdain for Wheeljack's design being an Urkel-derived stereotype.First-Aid wrote:DeathReviews wrote:They won't get me to 'care' about the Transformers if they give me the usual Bayverse grossly exaggerated stereotype treatments. We shall see.
Fixed your post for you.
I doubt we'll see those stereotypes with the new director. We didn't with the last movie.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Many has expressed disdain for Wheeljack's design being an Urkel-derived stereotype.First-Aid wrote:DeathReviews wrote:They won't get me to 'care' about the Transformers if they give me the usual Bayverse grossly exaggerated stereotype treatments. We shall see.
Fixed your post for you.
I doubt we'll see those stereotypes with the new director. We didn't with the last movie.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
Can he also change his age? 'Cause he's gone from being a grownup in Bumblebee to a youngster in this movie.First-Aid wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Many has expressed disdain for Wheeljack's design being an Urkel-derived stereotype.First-Aid wrote:DeathReviews wrote:They won't get me to 'care' about the Transformers if they give me the usual Bayverse grossly exaggerated stereotype treatments. We shall see.
Fixed your post for you.
I doubt we'll see those stereotypes with the new director. We didn't with the last movie.
True. My thought is this: these bots can change their form at will. Why not the ability to change their appearances too? People get plastic surgery, tattoos/piercings, change hair colors, get new glasses, new clothing, etc. WHy not artificial life forms too? DO they have to have a reason? Maybe Wheeljack arrived to Earth, saw Urkel and enjoyed the show and decided to change his look up. We're so used to these guys looking the same over and over (which is part of my current complaints with the Generations line as they continue to recycle the same characters over and over but don't vary the designs) that when something gets changed up, it's startling. It's kind of like cosplaying but with the ability to physically alter the structure of your body.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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To the director and writers it is. Transformers are secondary. Hence my disappointment but not surprise.griftimus prime wrote:i thought the most important thing was making it clear to people that this movie is a black and latino story?
[/quote]Yes, I definitely want people to connect with the humans, too, because they now look like us more than ever in this film.
84everfan wrote:Yes, I definitely want people to connect with the humans, too, because they now look like us more than ever in this film.
The **** is that supposed to mean? Dumbass.
Read the quote again. It's not talking about the movie's robot characters.-Kanrabat- wrote:84everfan wrote:Yes, I definitely want people to connect with the humans, too, because they now look like us more than ever in this film.
The **** is that supposed to mean? Dumbass.
This is just corporate word-salad from someone who clearly either don't pay attention nor care about what they're making.
Any Transformers fans, either hardcore or casual, can see that the Transformers were very "human" if not, completely "human" since Day One.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Read the quote again. It's not talking about the movie's robot characters.-Kanrabat- wrote:84everfan wrote:Yes, I definitely want people to connect with the humans, too, because they now look like us more than ever in this film.
The **** is that supposed to mean? Dumbass.
This is just corporate word-salad from someone who clearly either don't pay attention nor care about what they're making.
Any Transformers fans, either hardcore or casual, can see that the Transformers were very "human" if not, completely "human" since Day One.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Read the quote again. It's not talking about the movie's robot characters.-Kanrabat- wrote:84everfan wrote:Yes, I definitely want people to connect with the humans, too, because they now look like us more than ever in this film.
The **** is that supposed to mean? Dumbass.
This is just corporate word-salad from someone who clearly either don't pay attention nor care about what they're making.
Any Transformers fans, either hardcore or casual, can see that the Transformers were very "human" if not, completely "human" since Day One.
Oh dear...
I should stop assuming people are generally logical and intelligent. My brain tuned out the WTF part.
So he wants the humains to be more... humain? What?
Is he admitting that he's written mindless NPCs this whole time?
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