The Energon Pub

[-Kanrabat-]

Meh, women wanted absolute equality. So girl, grab your end of the sofa and climb the stairs with me. Then, war come in and have your ass drafted in the army along with me. And finally let's DIE in a GRUESOME way together in the frontlines!

[ZeroWolf]

I think shatter will be the one dragging Dropkick around in this

[Nathaniel Prime]

Isn't this the same incident like when they named Shockwave in DOTM Blitzwing? Anyway, I still think its Starscream. Unless it turns out to be a conehead-less Ramjet, which I hope doesn't happen.

[Prowl4]

People up in arms about the starscream/blitzwing thing have totally over looked that the director said that the female lead gives him the name bumblebee. That's actually embarrassing. I won't bother with this movie knowing that.

So glad to have you join the discussion as always.

Hey hun thanks for being my #1 fan.

[Prowl4]

People up in arms about the starscream/blitzwing thing have totally over looked that the director said that the female lead gives him the name bumblebee. That's actually embarrassing. I won't bother with this movie knowing that.

So glad to have you join the discussion as always.

What do you mean? Surely it's a horrid affront to have characters be... given names in the film! Especially, especially, a name as serious and extraterrestrial as Bumblebee! You mean to tell me a human is more likely to come up with that name for a small yellow robot than an alien lifeform who's never even known about Earth up to this point?! Puh-lease.

Silly writing will attract silly fans.

[ZeroWolf]

How's it silly writing though? And how do you define silly fans? Also compared to the last bay films writing like that is a solid improvement

[Prowl4]

How's it silly writing though? And how do you define silly fans? Also compared to the last bay films writing like that is a solid improvement

It's messy and inconsistent with previous material. He has the name bumblebee from his pre Earth days as do the other transformers especially in this continuity. Now the director has heavily messed with that in an incredibly stupid way. It's very silly especially given the point was already made in TF1 with the nbe1/ Megatron debate by Simmons and Sam. The transformers name themselves or are christened on Cybertron when made which is what the series has said. I miss Bay.

[ZeroWolf]

Here's the thing, inconsistently aside, this origin of the name makes more sense. I highly doubt they have Bumblebees on cybertron also Travis looks like he's got a better grasp of the source material then bay did...who only bothered to do more because of money. I know bay wasn't solely to blame for all the failures with the live action movies, but he still played his part...especially with Revenge of the Fallen, as he wrote some of that thanks to the writers strike

[Sunstar]

bee was named by the human? I couldn't care less. I always interpreted their names as english translations because their own language is hard to pronounce or interpret.

I really cannot give a rats aft about bee at this stage - he is way over used and overrated. There were far more interesting bots that came and went, Jazz would have been a far more interesting character to have kept around. Ironhide or even Ratchet. I'd prefer any of them because htey had a lot more character to them, than bumblebee. I can't stand the character - which is why I am not interested in seeing a movie about him. I will buy the DVD to add to my collection. I will watch the movie. I might even like the movie when I see it. But as it stands, I consider it a B movie - which unless it really piques my interest sometime between now and release, its no longer on my list of must-watch flicks.

[Sabrblade]

It's messy and inconsistent with previous material. He has the name bumblebee from his pre Earth days as do the other transformers especially in this continuity.

How do you know? We never saw Bee on Cybertron prior to his coming to Earth in any of the first five films. The first time we were told his name was by Optimus in the first movie well after Bumblebee had already been on Earth for a time that was unknown to anyone back in 2007.

If you're referring to the pre-Earth material that was the IDW movie prequel comics and the Ghosts of yesterday novel, AOE and TLK retconned those out of relevance with everything released after DOTM.

As such, there are essentially two different main timelines for the Movieverse. One that comprises of just the first three films and all the tie-in IDW comics and novels, which comes to a screeching halt with DOTM; and a second different timeline that contains all of the films but none of the tie-in material written for the first trilogy, and which is still ongoing to this day. It is this second timeline that the Bumblebee film is a part of.

[Prowl4]

It's messy and inconsistent with previous material. He has the name bumblebee from his pre Earth days as do the other transformers especially in this continuity.

How do you know? We never saw Bee on Cybertron prior to his coming to Earth in any of the first five films. The first time we were told his name was by Optimus in the first movie well after Bumblebee had already been on Earth for a time that was unknown to anyone back in 2007.

If you're referring to the pre-Earth material that was the IDW movie prequel comics and the Ghosts of yesterday novel, AOE and TLK retconned those out of relevance with everything released after DOTM.

As such, there are essentially two different main timelines for the Movieverse. One that comprises of just the first three films and all the tie-in IDW comics and novels, which comes to a screeching halt with DOTM; and a second different timeline that contains all of the films but none of the tie-in material written for the first trilogy, and which is still ongoing to this day. It is this second timeline that the Bumblebee film is a part of.

How'd they retcon everything out of existence?

[Prowl4]

Here's the thing, inconsistently aside, this origin of the name makes more sense. I highly doubt they have Bumblebees on cybertron also Travis looks like he's got a better grasp of the source material then bay did...who only bothered to do more because of money. I know bay wasn't solely to blame for all the failures with the live action movies, but he still played his part...especially with Revenge of the Fallen, as he wrote some of that thanks to the writers strike

Yikes.

[Sabrblade]

It's messy and inconsistent with previous material. He has the name bumblebee from his pre Earth days as do the other transformers especially in this continuity.

How do you know? We never saw Bee on Cybertron prior to his coming to Earth in any of the first five films. The first time we were told his name was by Optimus in the first movie well after Bumblebee had already been on Earth for a time that was unknown to anyone back in 2007.

If you're referring to the pre-Earth material that was the IDW movie prequel comics and the Ghosts of yesterday novel, AOE and TLK retconned those out of relevance with everything released after DOTM.

As such, there are essentially two different main timelines for the Movieverse. One that comprises of just the first three films and all the tie-in IDW comics and novels, which comes to a screeching halt with DOTM; and a second different timeline that contains all of the films but none of the tie-in material written for the first trilogy, and which is still ongoing to this day. It is this second timeline that the Bumblebee film is a part of.

How'd they retcon everything out of existence?

For one, TLK depicted Bee as having already been on Earth in WWII when the IDW Movie Prequel put his initial arrival on Earth in 2003. And Ghosts of Yesterday established that he hadn't yet reached Earth by 1969, over two decades after WWII ended.

And AOE ignored the AllSpark creation origin as it was detailed in the tie-in comics for ROTF and DOTM, instead crediting the creation of the Transformers to a mysterious alien race known only as "the Creators". TLK seemed like it was gonna expand upon this with Quintessa, but then that movie went and called her "The Great Deceiver", leaving the true identity of the Creators still an enigma, but one that still overrides the ROTF/DOTM comics' AllSpark creation origin.

Ergo, those comics and novels have no ties to the post-DOTM films, as those films were made with zero regard to any of the tie-in material (as were the first three films as well, but whose tie-in material had authors like John Barber who made everything work and fit together. Whereas no such treatment was made for any of the tie-in material made for the post-DOTM films. Even, the current Bumblebee movie tie-in comics from IDW, written by John Barber no less, make zero attempts to fit the post-DOTM films with the pre-DOTM tie-in material, with Barber just running with the retcons established by AOE and TLK as they are).

[Prowl4]

It's messy and inconsistent with previous material. He has the name bumblebee from his pre Earth days as do the other transformers especially in this continuity.

How do you know? We never saw Bee on Cybertron prior to his coming to Earth in any of the first five films. The first time we were told his name was by Optimus in the first movie well after Bumblebee had already been on Earth for a time that was unknown to anyone back in 2007.

If you're referring to the pre-Earth material that was the IDW movie prequel comics and the Ghosts of yesterday novel, AOE and TLK retconned those out of relevance with everything released after DOTM.

As such, there are essentially two different main timelines for the Movieverse. One that comprises of just the first three films and all the tie-in IDW comics and novels, which comes to a screeching halt with DOTM; and a second different timeline that contains all of the films but none of the tie-in material written for the first trilogy, and which is still ongoing to this day. It is this second timeline that the Bumblebee film is a part of.

How'd they retcon everything out of existence?

For one, TLK depicted Bee as having already been on Earth in WWII when the IDW Movie Prequel put his initial arrival on Earth in 2003. And Ghosts of Yesterday established that he hadn't yet reached Earth by 1969, over two decades after WWII ended.

And AOE ignored the AllSpark creation origin as it was detailed in the tie-in comics for ROTF and DOTM, instead crediting the creation of the Transformers to a mysterious alien race known only as "the Creators". TLK seemed like it was gonna expand upon this with Quintessa, but then that movie went and called her "The Great Deceiver", leaving the true identity of the Creators still an enigma, but one that still overrides the ROTF/DOTM comics' AllSpark creation origin.

Ergo, those comics and novels have no ties to the post-DOTM films, as those films were made with zero regard to any of the tie-in material (as were the first three films as well, but whose tie-in material had authors like John Barber who made everything work and fit together. Whereas no such treatment was made for any of the tie-in material made for the post-DOTM films. Even, the current Bumblebee movie tie-in comics from IDW, written by John Barber no less, make zero attempts to fit the post-DOTM films with the pre-DOTM tie-in material, with Barber just running with the retcons established by AOE and TLK as they are).

TLK made it clear that the transformers had been coming and going from earth which was confirmed in ROTF so it does really tie to TLK and the transformers are shown to be present during pre civilization and the medieval times coming and going. Bee is present in WW2 on Earth and is known as bumblebee by that point which can't be denied given that Hot Rod is actually with him. The WW2 events are before this spin off movie.

Well in the case of the all spark and quintessa we actually see the all spark create life and restore bodies through that first movie and subsequently twice in ROTF. Quintessa in TLK was either cut or the budget was cut on her and her role reduced but it's not too much of a stretch to say she possesses mind control like abilities which we see on Optimus and Megatron. I'd like to know the original intention or story to her role.

[Sabrblade]

TLK made it clear that the transformers had been coming and going from earth which was confirmed in ROTF so it does really tie to TLK and the transformers are shown to be present during pre civilization and the medieval times coming and going. Bee is present in WW2 on Earth and is known as bumblebee by that point which can't be denied given that Hot Rod is actually with him. The WW2 events are before this spin off movie.

TLK never indicated that they were "coming and going". Only that they had been coming to Earth for a long time, and specifically put Autobots whom the IDW tie-ins said only first came to Earth in the 21st Century on Earth in various historical points.

And the WWII flashback never said outright that Bumblebee had that name at that point.

Plus, neither of us have seen the new movie yet. For all we know, Charlie could be thinking up an appropriate name that, coincidence of all coincidences, just so happened to be his actual name. We can't say anything about the matter either way until the movie comes out.

Well in the case of the all spark and quintessa we actually see the all spark create life and restore bodies through that first movie and subsequently twice in ROTF. Quintessa in TLK was either cut or the budget was cut on her and her role reduced but it's not too much of a stretch to say she possesses mind control like abilities which we see on Optimus and Megatron. I'd like to know the original intention or story to her role.

All we know is that she isn't one of those Creator aliens whose hand we see in AOE, and whom the AllSpark has yet to be affiliated with in any official capacity.

[Autobot Roadburn]

TLK made it clear that the transformers had been coming and going from earth which was confirmed in ROTF so it does really tie to TLK and the transformers are shown to be present during pre civilization and the medieval times coming and going. Bee is present in WW2 on Earth and is known as bumblebee by that point which can't be denied given that Hot Rod is actually with him. The WW2 events are before this spin off movie.

TLK never indicated that they were "coming and going". Only that they had been coming to Earth, and specifically put Autobots whom the IDW tie-ins said only first came to Earth in the 21st Century on Earth in various historical points.

And the WWII flashback never said outright that Bumblebee had that name at that point.

Plus, neither of have seen the new movie yet. For all we know, Charlie could be thinking up an appropriate name that, coincidence of all coincidences, just so happened to be his actual name. We can't say anything about the matter either way until the movie comes out.

Well in the case of the all spark and quintessa we actually see the all spark create life and restore bodies through that first movie and subsequently twice in ROTF. Quintessa in TLK was either cut or the budget was cut on her and her role reduced but it's not too much of a stretch to say she possesses mind control like abilities which we see on Optimus and Megatron. I'd like to know the original intention or story to her role.

All we know is that she isn't one of those Creator aliens whose hand we see in AOE, and whom the AllSpark has yet to be affiliated with in any official capacity.

I'm really starting to hope this is a soft reboot at this point because the continuity is so unnecessarily convoluted by now I haven't even bothered to remember most of this.

[Prowl4]

TLK made it clear that the transformers had been coming and going from earth which was confirmed in ROTF so it does really tie to TLK and the transformers are shown to be present during pre civilization and the medieval times coming and going. Bee is present in WW2 on Earth and is known as bumblebee by that point which can't be denied given that Hot Rod is actually with him. The WW2 events are before this spin off movie.

TLK never indicated that they were "coming and going". Only that they had been coming to Earth, and specifically put Autobots whom the IDW tie-ins said only first came to Earth in the 21st Century on Earth in various historical points.

And the WWII flashback never said outright that Bumblebee had that name at that point.

Plus, neither of have seen the new movie yet. For all we know, Charlie could be thinking up an appropriate name that, coincidence of all coincidences, just so happened to be his actual name. We can't say anything about the matter either way until the movie comes out.

Well in the case of the all spark and quintessa we actually see the all spark create life and restore bodies through that first movie and subsequently twice in ROTF. Quintessa in TLK was either cut or the budget was cut on her and her role reduced but it's not too much of a stretch to say she possesses mind control like abilities which we see on Optimus and Megatron. I'd like to know the original intention or story to her role.

All we know is that she isn't one of those Creator aliens whose hand we see in AOE, and whom the AllSpark has yet to be affiliated with in any official capacity.

TLK did indicate they came and went as depicted from the pictures, murals and statues in The Lord's Manor. Ironhide being one of the prominent pictures to confirm this. This also harkons back to TF1 when starscream left earth and ROTF when Megatron left earth. In DOTM the Autobots left earth albeit briefly and in AOE Prime left earth. Wheelie and Simmons in ROTF speak about the seekers and say how some of them stayed around which implied they could leave which is later confirmed by Jetfire when he's not giving a care about the war or sides. He can also generate space bridges and remarks about being on the right planet which implies he could bridge to planets.

WW2 flashback explicitly shows Lord of the Manor talking about bumblebee and how he met him as a boy which is further confirmation given the timeframe that bee cannot be christened bee by the lead in the 80s. He calls him bumblebee before anything is said.

How do you know she is a creator creature or isn't? She takes a cybertronian form, a human form and an in-between form in TLK.

[Prowl4]

TLK made it clear that the transformers had been coming and going from earth which was confirmed in ROTF so it does really tie to TLK and the transformers are shown to be present during pre civilization and the medieval times coming and going. Bee is present in WW2 on Earth and is known as bumblebee by that point which can't be denied given that Hot Rod is actually with him. The WW2 events are before this spin off movie.

TLK never indicated that they were "coming and going". Only that they had been coming to Earth, and specifically put Autobots whom the IDW tie-ins said only first came to Earth in the 21st Century on Earth in various historical points.

And the WWII flashback never said outright that Bumblebee had that name at that point.

Plus, neither of have seen the new movie yet. For all we know, Charlie could be thinking up an appropriate name that, coincidence of all coincidences, just so happened to be his actual name. We can't say anything about the matter either way until the movie comes out.

Well in the case of the all spark and quintessa we actually see the all spark create life and restore bodies through that first movie and subsequently twice in ROTF. Quintessa in TLK was either cut or the budget was cut on her and her role reduced but it's not too much of a stretch to say she possesses mind control like abilities which we see on Optimus and Megatron. I'd like to know the original intention or story to her role.

All we know is that she isn't one of those Creator aliens whose hand we see in AOE, and whom the AllSpark has yet to be affiliated with in any official capacity.

I'm really starting to hope this is a soft reboot at this point because the continuity is so unnecessarily convoluted by now I haven't even bothered to remember most of this.

It's not that hard to follow really but if this director is telling the truth that the girl names bee then it's very very silly and very very messy. It makes his work look shoddy which probably isn't far from the truth if rumours are to be believed.

[Sabrblade]

TLK did indicate they came and went as depicted from the pictures, murals and statues in The Lord's Manor.

Which of those showed them leaving Earth? That's what I was emphasizing. The pictures show them on Earth, but there is no talk of any departures from the planet.

Ironhide being one of the prominent pictures to confirm this. This also harkons back to TF1 when starscream left earth and ROTF when Megatron left earth.

Those characters were shown to have the capability to do that. Characters like Ironhide needed a ship to leave the planet in DOTM, which the pictures and murals do not depict.

In DOTM the Autobots left earth albeit briefly

Via a ship.

and in AOE Prime left earth.

Which many took as being nonsensical, but nevertheless, it was part of a discarded Super Mode-type full-body upgrade he was originally supposed to get the film (instead, only his arms ended up being upgraded), making his flight capabilities extraordinary and unique to him and him alone.

Wheelie and Simmons in ROTF speak about the seekers and say how some of them stayed around which implied they could leave which is later confirmed by Jetfire when he's not giving a care about the war or sides. He can also generate space bridges and remarks about being on the right planet which implies he could bridge to planets.

Yes. The Seekers had ancient space bridge technology. The present day TFs were established as not possessing that, which is what made Sentinel Prime's pillars so special in DOTM.

WW2 flashback explicitly shows Lord of the Manor talking about bumblebee and how he met him as a boy which is further confirmation given the timeframe that bee cannot be christened bee by the lead in the 80s. He calls him bumblebee before anything is said.

He did not say that Bumblebee had that name back in WWII. He calls him Bumblebee in the present day, by which point Bumblebee is publicly-known around the world.

How do you know she is a creator creature or isn't? She takes a cybertronian form, a human form and an in-between form in TLK.

Because we saw how the Creators looked in AOE, and Quintessa doesn't share that design, and the film went out of its way to have the Guardian Knights call her a big fat liar by nature, so anything she says matter-of-factly is automatically subject for scrutiny.

[william-james88]

Why do you guys care more than the screenwriters do?

[ZeroWolf]

Why do you guys care more than the screenwriters do?

The curse of being a fan I guess. I admit, I never thought about the last two doing away with the prequel comics but then again the screenwriters were probably never aware of their existence anyway.

[Prowl4]

TLK did indicate they came and went as depicted from the pictures, murals and statues in The Lord's Manor.

Which of those showed them leaving Earth? That's what I was emphasizing. The pictures show them on Earth, but there is no talk of any departures from the planet.

Ironhide being one of the prominent pictures to confirm this. This also harkons back to TF1 when starscream left earth and ROTF when Megatron left earth.

Those characters were shown to have the capability to do that. Characters like Ironhide needed a ship to leave the planet in DOTM, which the pictures and murals do not depict.

In DOTM the Autobots left earth albeit briefly

Via a ship.

and in AOE Prime left earth.

Which many took as being nonsensical, but nevertheless, it was part of a discarded Super Mode-type full-body upgrade he was originally supposed to get the film (instead, only his arms ended up being upgraded), making his flight capabilities extraordinary and unique to him and him alone.

Wheelie and Simmons in ROTF speak about the seekers and say how some of them stayed around which implied they could leave which is later confirmed by Jetfire when he's not giving a care about the war or sides. He can also generate space bridges and remarks about being on the right planet which implies he could bridge to planets.

Yes. The Seekers had ancient space bridge technology. The present day TFs were established as not possessing that, which is what made Sentinel Prime's pillars so special in DOTM.

WW2 flashback explicitly shows Lord of the Manor talking about bumblebee and how he met him as a boy which is further confirmation given the timeframe that bee cannot be christened bee by the lead in the 80s. He calls him bumblebee before anything is said.

He did not say that Bumblebee had that name back in WWII. He calls him Bumblebee in the present day, by which point Bumblebee is publicly-known around the world.

How do you know she is a creator creature or isn't? She takes a cybertronian form, a human form and an in-between form in TLK.

Because we saw how the Creators looked in AOE, and Quintessa doesn't share that design, and the film went out of its way to have the Guardian Knights call her a big fat liar by nature, so anything she says matter-of-factly is automatically subject for scrutiny.

That's just semantics because obviously they left earth with Ironhide being the prime example. Ironhide is pictured multiple times but arrived with prime in the modern day so he obviously came and left.

They don't need a ship as evidenced from protoform along with starscream, Optimus and Megatron all leaving the planet.

So you agree with seekers coming and going at their choosing?

Except bee isn't publicly known worldwide as bee. The only reason he'd know his name is because Hot Rod TOLD him his name.

Fair to say her in-between mode in TLK is quite similar to what was shown in AOE. I think you're taking the Knight's dialogue and fitting it with your narrative. When they say deceiver, it tells me they're insulting her spell binding powers. A magician is a deceiver and that's essentially a power she has which is stated out right in the opening of TLK that magic is real.

Case in point with all else aside, it's incredibly stupid and a massive stretch for the director to say his lead christened bee when all of the evidence points to him having that name. It's like me calling you Hank when your name is let's say John. Your family and friends are not going to start to call you Hank just because one guy called you it.

[Qwan]

Case in point with all else aside, it's incredibly stupid and a massive stretch for the director to say his lead christened bee when all of the evidence points to him having that name. It's like me calling you Hank when your name is let's say John. Your family and friends are not going to start to call you Hank just because one guy called you it.

Alternately:

- If you ended up on a distant planet all by yourself, with nobody else from your old planet around except for a couple who are trying to kill you, and everyone on that new planet started calling you Hank for thirty years... you'd probably start calling yourself Hank too. Or;

- If the aliens on the new planet just so happened to call you John, you'd roll with it super easily since your name is already John. A massive coincidence yes, but one possible way this could play out. Like Sabr said, we don't have enough information on this plot point (if you can even call it important enough to be a "plot point") to make a solid judgement right now.

[ScottyP]

Someone said 'What's the big deal if it is Blitzwing and not Starscream.' Well, it is more than a big deal as many fans grew up in the G1 era and would like a G1 movie.

Good news!

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This is the perfect post

[Sabrblade]

That's just semantics because obviously they left earth with Ironhide being the prime example. Ironhide is pictured multiple times but arrived with prime in the modern day so he obviously came and left.

If you have to assume things in order for things to make sense, then logically speaking, wouldn't that preclude things from making sense as they are?

They don't need a ship as evidenced from protoform along with starscream, Optimus and Megatron all leaving the planet.

If Optimus could already fly, then why did he insist in DOTM that he needed the jetpack that he had in that movie? ("The Decepticons have my trailer! I NEED that flight tech!")

Optimus's flight capabilities in AOE were supposed to be something new that he only just got for the first time in that movie. The final cut didn't make that as clear as it was meant to be due to the super special upgrade that Optimus was supposed to have received being reduced to just his arms being upgraded instead. But the original intent is nonetheless relevant.

So you agree with seekers coming and going at their choosing?

The Seekers were a super duper special ancient race that had space bridge technology. A technology that both ROTF and DOTM made a big deal about how none of the present day TFs (e.g. - Optimus, Bumblebee, Ironhide, etc.) had access to. TLK putting the present day TFs on Earth during times when their Seeker ancestors were around is ridiculous as that defeats the whole point of the Seekers being the ancient race that they were. They were meant to predate the present day cast, not coexist with them. That's what made Jetfire so special in ROTF. That he was the last of a race of special ancient TFs who had long since gone extinct before the present day TFs' time.

What TLK did was basically the equivalent of someone trying to claim that John F. Kennedy and George Washington went to school together as classmates.

Except bee isn't publicly known worldwide as bee. The only reason he'd know his name is because Hot Rod TOLD him his name.

Well, there you go. Sir Edmund Burton knows Hot Rod, Hot Rod knows Bumblebee, therefore if Hot Rod told Burton Bee's name, Burton would know Bee's name by the present. But there's nothing in the WWII flashback that says anything about what Bee's name was back then or if Burton had ever learned his name back then. For all we know, Burton might have just known Bee and Hot Rod as "those metal men who fought the Nazis", and only learned their names later on. We can't assume anything from that scene like you are doing right now.

Fair to say her in-between mode in TLK is quite similar to what was shown in AOE. I think you're taking the Knight's dialogue and fitting it with your narrative. When they say deceiver, it tells me they're insulting her spell binding powers. A magician is a deceiver and that's essentially a power she has which is stated out right in the opening of TLK that magic is real.

The knights were berating Optimus for his having listened to what Quintessa told him, for his having been swayed by her words. Even if her brainwashing powers were related, it was through her words that she swayed Optimus in the first place. Quintessa is basically the Movieverse equivalent of Quintus Prime, right down to their similar designs and adept powers of persuasive and deceive speech, only with Quintessa being female instead of male.

Case in point with all else aside, it's incredibly stupid and a massive stretch for the director to say his lead christened bee when all of the evidence points to him having that name. It's like me calling you Hank when your name is let's say John. Your family and friends are not going to start to call you Hank just because one guy called you it.

Like I said, for all we know, Charlie just guessed his real name by pure coincidence. Or maybe before deciding on "Bumblebee" maybe she'll list off a number of other name suggestions that Bee will reject before she settles on the one name that he actually approves of, because it happens to be his real name. Again, you're assuming things without having yet seen the movie. Let's wait and see how the scene actually plays out in the film before hitting the panic button, m'kay?