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sol magnus wrote:I don't get it either, but they say his 'transformation is uninspired' - it's the same transformation as back in the day, but with articulation. There's no accounting for taste.

Yet those of us that actually got kickback when he was originally released were excited and bought them with zero complaints.

I have CW Bombshell, TR Kickback and PotP Skrapnel and not planning on grabbing the Legacy ones. However, I will be on the lookout for Ransack and any other Deluxe Insecticon they'll release.

sol magnus wrote:I don't get it either, but they say his 'transformation is uninspired' - it's the same transformation as back in the day, but with articulation. There's no accounting for taste.

"The only universal constant over time is fanboy complaint" - Sabrina-Online #397, Sept. 2006.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:I have CW Bombshell, TR Kickback and PotP Skrapnel and not planning on grabbing the Legacy ones. However, I will be on the lookout for Ransack and any other Deluxe Insecticon they'll release.

I haven't seen much hate for Kickback, though I've seen a lot of complaints. I think it's a combination of people liking the Prime Wars Insecticons and wishing the Legacy lineup had more franchise diversity, which I get. I'm glad the redeco means more people get to pick up the mold. I expect we'll see Chop Shop from Shrapnel again, and the others further down the line, so everyone can get new Legacy Insecticon toys one way or another.

I don't have hate for Legacy Kickback, I just really like the Prime Wars set and will be sticking with those. If I didn't have them, I would definitely get the new Kickback, even if I don't like the translucent parts.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:"The only universal constant over time is fanboy complaint" - Sabrina-Online #397, Sept. 2006.

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Wow, that is so damn true..

Fanboys ruin everything they touch, yet another reason I got away from the 501st legion and all costuming and collector fan groups.
People suck and most humans are vile.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I don't have hate for Legacy Kickback, I just really like the Prime Wars set and will be sticking with those. If I didn't have them, I would definitely get the new Kickback, even if I don't like the translucent parts.

I have all of those and feel they were a great stepping stone until they have been made better with the Legacy line (Kickback... down need the rest).

Cyber Bishop wrote:Wow so much Legacy Kickback hatred around here. They went and gave us a literal spot on updated G1 version that many called for (transformation is IDENTICAL to the original and the cartoon with full articulation). Is it the size? go back and look at both the cartoon and Marvel comic and see how big they actually were. There is seriously no pleasing some of you at all is there? Maybe one day Hasbro will say F-you to the older collector base and focus on just the little kiddie versions of the toys, then the haters will be going waa waa I want my accurate transformers back. Just be freaking glad they are even making an attempt to make toys that are as close to their G1 counterparts as possible.

Same here there is nothing wrong with Kickback he looks like a decently good figure!

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Same here there is nothing wrong with Kickback he looks like a decently good figure!

I’m also a bit surprised that there’s been as much negativity as there has been for Kickback…
Out of all of the deluxes in this line, I’ve been most excited about him.
I cannot wait to get him this Wednesday!!!!

sol magnus wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:Wow so much Legacy Kickback hatred around here. They went and gave us a literal spot on updated G1 version that many called for (transformation is IDENTICAL to the original and the cartoon). There is seriously no pleasing some of you at all is there? Maybe one day Hasbro will say F-you to the older collector base and focus on just the little kiddie versions of the toys, then the haters will be going waa waa I want my accurate transformers back. Just be freaking glad they are even making an attempt to make toys that are as close to their G1 counterparts as possible.

I don't get it either, but they say his 'transformation is uninspired' - it's the same transformation as back in the day, but with articulation. There's no accounting for taste.

It's even better since they add that extra step where you can hide his robot face in bug mode.

william-james88 wrote:It's even better since they add that extra step where you can hide his robot face in bug mode.

This right here!!!!

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Wait, four pack? Does this mean we'll have to wait longer for the other deluxe insecticons? *sad sigh* Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssssbrrrrrrrrrrooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have failed me!

Beet-Papil when?

I'm actually relatively annoyed that Ransack will be in a 4 pack...
He was up towards the top of my "maybe's" list... But wasn't looking to spend $60-$80 or whatever just to have him.
I may just sell-off whatever I don't want of the other 3.
I'm trying to take on the "At least we're getting him" mindset...

Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm actually relatively annoyed that Ransack will be in a 4 pack...
He was up towards the top of my "maybe's" list... But wasn't looking to spend $60-$80 or whatever just to have him.
I may just sell-off whatever I don't want of the other 3.
I'm trying to take on the "At least we're getting him" mindset...

If you live in a populated city, selling the rest wouldn't be hard. Though I'm not sure which ones in the 4 pack will be the most sought after.

Ransack doesn't look that bad. Interesting to have someone new at least.

I don't hate Kickback, i just find the new toy boring. It's not my cup of tea, and the insecticons tend to be some of my least favorite bots. The only one i own is FOC Kickback, and I've been waiting on deluxe Bombshell and Shrapnel to go with him (aesthetic doesn't matter to me there)

william-james88 wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm actually relatively annoyed that Ransack will be in a 4 pack...
He was up towards the top of my "maybe's" list... But wasn't looking to spend $60-$80 or whatever just to have him.
I may just sell-off whatever I don't want of the other 3.
I'm trying to take on the "At least we're getting him" mindset...

If you live in a populated city, selling the rest wouldn't be hard. Though I'm not sure which ones in the 4 pack will be the most sought after.

I may have a deal set-up with another board member.
Only having to sell-off 1-2 of the 4 will make it worth buying imo.

Thanks to In Demand Toys on Facebook, we have our first full look at the upcoming Transformers Buzzworthy Bumblebee 4 pack! This is the 2nd 4 pack to be released, and follows last years pack with Blackarachnia, Nemesis Primal, Fangry, and Bumblebee.

We have known the contents of this pack for some time, but only gotten leaked images of 3 of the 4 figures. But now, we have the full set. The set is comprised of Ransack from Legacy Kickback, Skywasp from Kingdom Waspinator, toy colored Scorponok from Kingdom Scorponok, and the main attraction: a proper Goldbug using the exclusive VW beetle alt mode!

We do not yet know when the set will be going up on Target, But if you follow the above link, In Demand Toys already has the figure ready to go for those in the UK!

Check out the images below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!

Now that's a good surprise

Goldbug actually being the beetle has turned me to buying the set. I like it much more now

It's a box of bugs

It is so cool that they went with the name Skywasp. One of the very last characters Fun Pub created.

I wonder how many people will be buying this and swapping parts with the Worlds Collide Bumblebee figure? I was already going to get this, but I'm glad Scorponok is now the only stinker in the set.

Emerje

Now I'll admit - this repaint pack has some tempting items in it. I didn't much care for Kickback, but somehow the Ransack repaint looks better. The VW mold for Bumblebee was good in the Netflix line. And Scorponok's toy colors look better (because everything looks better in black). The only one I'm not on board with is the Waspinator repaint. Never really cared much for that mold. But if I see this, then I may get it regardless.

I guess Walmart's exclusivity on the VW molding finally expired. I wonder if this means we could see it reused for another release of regular Bee? People sure have been clamoring for it.

Tuned Agent wrote:I guess Walmart's exclusivity on the VW molding finally expired. I wonder if this means we could see it reused for another release of regular Bee? People sure have been clamoring for it.

That's what people want, but depending on how yellow or gold the plastic is, it might be enough to get this one and do a simple head swap with other recent Bees. Netflix Bee is far too orange in my opinion. I think the best event would be an animation-colored Bee in SS86 or separately in this line, but who knows. It's probably easier to cover the VW licensing expense in a large multipack like this.

Tuned Agent wrote:I guess Walmart's exclusivity on the VW molding finally expired. I wonder if this means we could see it reused for another release of regular Bee? People sure have been clamoring for it.

Really have to wonder why this one expired and Soundwave didn't when they were released at the same time. I wonder if maybe there were no exclusivity limits at all, it just expired, but with the new Bee movie coming Hasbro was able to negotiate new usage (even though Bumblebee isn't a Beetle they'll certainly be releasing some Beetle Bees at toy time anyway I think).

Emerje