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Counterpunch wrote:Question: But...why should anyone without that set care about Depthcharge?
Counterpunch wrote:Question: Why does anyone who does not own the 2006 BotCon Dawn of Future's Past box-set give a damn about getting this toy?
I mean, good on me. I have a group of figures who will welcome a new addition (after five years since Airrazor). But...why should anyone without that set care about Depthcharge?
Counterpunch wrote:Question: Why does anyone who does not own the 2006 BotCon Dawn of Future's Past box-set give a damn about getting this toy?
Counterpunch wrote:Question: Why does anyone who does not own the 2006 BotCon Dawn of Future's Past box-set give a damn about getting this toy?
I mean, good on me. I have a group of figures who will welcome a new addition (after five years since Airrazor). But...why should anyone without that set care about Depthcharge?
Dr. Heavy B wrote:Counterpunch wrote:Question: Why does anyone who does not own the 2006 BotCon Dawn of Future's Past box-set give a damn about getting this toy?
Answer: Because Depthcharge was a a cool character. Its like why are people excited about a classics breakdown when, A) the others aren't likely to see release (except for dragstrip who actually came out) And B) they can't combine. Combining is a pretty important part to the stunticons. They just want the bloody toy. What do you care?
Counterpunch wrote:Dr. Heavy B wrote:Counterpunch wrote:Question: Why does anyone who does not own the 2006 BotCon Dawn of Future's Past box-set give a damn about getting this toy?
Answer: Because Depthcharge was a a cool character. Its like why are people excited about a classics breakdown when, A) the others aren't likely to see release (except for dragstrip who actually came out) And B) they can't combine. Combining is a pretty important part to the stunticons. They just want the bloody toy. What do you care?
First off, your comparison does not work.
This is a BW character who has been given a non-beast alt. It would be like getting a Breakdown who turns into, oh let's say a woodpecker. Now you have exactly one G1 figure with a new beast alt mode. Give him a whole shelf to himself. The combination aspect has nothing to do with it.
Just "wanting the bloody toy" is a perfectly reasonable excuse. I just asked a question that was calling the Club's decision into question, not other people's personal tastes. So, do me a favor and get agro somewhere else.
Counterpunch wrote:FP sure does provide some F'd up head.
xyl360 wrote:I guess if Hasbro/Takara can make Dark Steel (i.e. BW Quickstrike) then the club can make Depth Charge.
A lot of people dig on Depth Charge, so I can see why they picked him, especially given that this mold (and even its weapon in a way, given that a trident has more to do with the sea than the air) very much resembles Depth Charge.
Kibble wrote:xyl360 wrote:I guess if Hasbro/Takara can make Dark Steel (i.e. BW Quickstrike) then the club can make Depth Charge.
A lot of people dig on Depth Charge, so I can see why they picked him, especially given that this mold (and even its weapon in a way, given that a trident has more to do with the sea than the air) very much resembles Depth Charge.
I don't think that they picked him is so much the issue, but more that he's THE incentive figure. Not much of an incentive to many, or dare I say most?
xyl360 wrote:I personally think it's refreshing to see a different line being focused on a bit, rather than rehashing the same G1 characters over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
Yes, but neither are the same character as the RiD versions. Both of the Club/BotCon versions are G1 guys homaging the RiD characters.tigertracks 24 wrote:Sideburn and SkyByte were both from 2000's Robots in Disguise.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Yes, but neither are the same character as the RiD versions. Both of the Club/BotCon versions are G1 guys homaging the RiD characters.tigertracks 24 wrote:Sideburn and SkyByte were both from 2000's Robots in Disguise.
tigertracks 24 wrote:xyl360 wrote:I personally think it's refreshing to see a different line being focused on a bit, rather than rehashing the same G1 characters over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
I guess I don't see it as them rehashing the same characters over and over again from G1 or anywhere else.
Sideburn and SkyByte were both from 2000's Robots in Disguise.
Air Razor was BW homage.
In fact, I don't think the club, minus their foray into Shattered Glass, has redone any characters that have been popularly done over and over from G1.
There giveaways previously were all new characters using Energon combiner limbs.
Runamuck and Runabout have only seen really two homages between them by HASBRO not the club, and those were pretty sucky toys (repaint of Armada Sideswipe, and a repaint of Legends Jazz).
Drift was Shattered Glass.
I'm just not seeing the club focus on G1 that you are, and certainly not in characters that have been rehashed over and over again. If it is G1, it's usually odd ball characters, or characters that they made up like the Star Wars Expanded Universe/Offscreen character pieces.
Overlord and Metalhawk? One release ever, and not even in the US market for G1? Not rehashed rehashes.
The rehashing is the in the club's Shattered Glass universe, which allows them to do easy repaints of existing characters often times without doing anything, but changing the colors.
I'm impressed that the club is going to try a subscription service. I hope it's affordable, and it would be nice to be able to be a part of it without having to ante up for the general membership? Or be able to choose to trade the general membership figure for one of the club subscription figures. I know, too difficult.
I just don't know that this subscription figure is going to be very popular, and that if they really wanted to win folks back into believing in them with the best free exclusive ever... well maybe it should have been a different choice. I think a SCOURGE repaint would have created a lot more interest from the fandom, and probably result in more memberships.
Again, I'm not sure how the subscription service works when compared with membership.
xyl360 wrote:I guess I'm just bored with the whole 'geewun' thing and seeing stuff like this (and even RiD Sideburn and Skybite, though I'm not an RiD fan) are a breath of fresh air to me.
LOLtigertracks 24 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Yes, but neither are the same character as the RiD versions. Both of the Club/BotCon versions are G1 guys homaging the RiD characters.tigertracks 24 wrote:Sideburn and SkyByte were both from 2000's Robots in Disguise.
How can a G1 guy homage a guy who came after them? Oh my god, timeline continuities are killing me.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Well I don't have the set, and I care about DC because he's awesome and free.Counterpunch wrote:But...why should anyone without that set care about Depthcharge?
By the magical system known as retconning.tigertracks 24 wrote:How can a G1 guy homage a guy who came after them? Oh my god, timeline continuities are killing me.
orangeitis wrote:By the magical system known as retconning.tigertracks 24 wrote:How can a G1 guy homage a guy who came after them? Oh my god, timeline continuities are killing me.![]()
It's simple. The universe that G1 took place in was never fully explored by G1 fiction. We never saw every single Transformer that existed in said universe. FunPub is taking this opportunity to fill those unexplored areas in with homages of characters which out-of-continuity made after G1 already finished. Nothing in G1 was harmed or altered(I assume), and it gives a nice little home to these homages.
Last time I checked, RiD wasn't in G1 continuity though. Or were you talking about Depth Charge...?tigertracks 24 wrote:orangeitis wrote:By the magical system known as retconning.tigertracks 24 wrote:How can a G1 guy homage a guy who came after them? Oh my god, timeline continuities are killing me.![]()
It's simple. The universe that G1 took place in was never fully explored by G1 fiction. We never saw every single Transformer that existed in said universe. FunPub is taking this opportunity to fill those unexplored areas in with homages of characters which out-of-continuity made after G1 already finished. Nothing in G1 was harmed or altered(I assume), and it gives a nice little home to these homages.
Yeah, but a character in an explored section of G1 cannot pay homage to a character who comes later in time/contiuity unless they time travel that is what I am referring to.
The continuity for me is all muddled...
tigertracks 24 wrote:xyl360 wrote:I guess I'm just bored with the whole 'geewun' thing and seeing stuff like this (and even RiD Sideburn and Skybite, though I'm not an RiD fan) are a breath of fresh air to me.
Bw even had G1 show up in it, so it seems to be an inescapable destiny.![]()
Yeah, I think that kinda stopped when they abandoned the original continuity. I personally think fans would be more than happy if they went on to tell the stories of new primes after Optimus/Rodimus and introduce totally new characters. They could still release new versions of old characters when plot permits(how they brought Optimus back in season 3, for instance)xyl360 wrote:attempts to avoid alienating us die-hard fans that grew up on the franchise
I think they did that simply to keep from alienating the new generation(s) so they don't need to go back and watch a 1980's TV show and movie in order to get caught up with what the heck is going on.orangeitis wrote:Yeah, I think that kinda stopped when they abandoned the original continuity.
Agreed. Not to mention all that time (300+ years?) between the end of season 3 and Beast Wars, but sadly that continuity is dead now.orangeitis wrote:I personally think fans would be more than happy if they went on to tell the stories of new primes after Optimus/Rodimus and introduce totally new characters. They could still release new versions of old characters when plot permits(how they brought Optimus back in season 3, for instance)
Now it's a new 'unified' continuity, meaning nothing created can blatantly contradict or conflict with the details written in Hasbro's new Transformers Unified Continuity Bible. That includes Prime and the video games, though that bible itself is based on G1 at its core, at least with regards to core characters and basic elements like Autobots, Decepticons and Cybertron. More specific details are pretty much up for grabs/individual writers' interpretations. Of course, that's also what I hate about it. It's essentially a stripped down re-boot of G1. In my mind it is neither inferior nor superior to G1, but just a derivative of it instead of something more original. It just doesn't offer anything new or very interesting for a fan like me, but I'm probably just being to picky.orangeitis wrote:Buuut it's a mess of continuities now. Oh well, at least they're still robots that turn into things. That has always been the best thing about the franchise.
Good point, but there would always be directions the story would go to keep from alienating it's new viewers. Between wars in that universe, for instance.xyl360 wrote:I think they did that simply to keep from alienating the new generation(s) so they don't need to go back and watch a 1980's TV show and movie in order to get caught up with what the heck is going on.
Well maybe this generation of children might have fond memories of Transformers on the level that we had with G1. It might be different memories though, but still.xyl360 wrote:Now it's a new 'unified' continuity, meaning nothing created can blatantly contradict or conflict with the details written in Hasbro's new Transformers Unified Continuity Bible. That includes Prime and the video games, though that bible itself is based on G1 at its core, at least with regards to core characters and basic elements like Autobots, Decepticons and Cybertron. More specific details are pretty much up for grabs/individual writers' interpretations. Of course, that's also what I hate about it. It's essentially a stripped down re-boot of G1. In my mind it is neither inferior nor superior to G1, but just a derivative of it instead of something more original. It just doesn't offer anything new or very interesting for a fan like me, but I'm probably just being to picky.
tigertracks 24 wrote:xyl360 wrote:Bw even had G1 show up in it, so it seems to be an inescapable destiny.![]()
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