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Hellscream9999 wrote:
Sounds awesome, shame they're using the MM/OP mold, it could've been amazing

The mold itself is not bad not great but not awful either.


But really what would you have made Toxitron from neither HotSpot or Onslaught fit Toxitron that well unless they want to change his alt mode?

Deadput wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:
Sounds awesome, shame they're using the MM/OP mold, it could've been amazing

The mold itself is not bad not great but not awful either.


But really what would you have made Toxitron from neither HotSpot or Onslaught fit Toxitron that well unless they want to change his alt mode?

Plus, it was originally gonna be Nemesis Prime until Takara went and made Grand Scourge, forcing the Club to change its plans for the Motormaster mold's other pretooled head.

So if they hadn't gone with the Motormaster mold, we wouldn't be getting that final headsculpt.

Deadput wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Sounds awesome, shame they're using the MM/OP mold, it could've been amazing

The mold itself is not bad not great but not awful either. But really what would you have made Toxitron from neither HotSpot or Onslaught fit Toxitron that well unless they want to change his alt mode?

Who says it has to be Toxitron, is that a thing? As 'Wreckers', I could see using Scattershot or Onslaught, since Onslaught was just used, I think Scattershot with a new head and combiner head and a bunch of guns would have been pretty cool

Poor Rotorstorm. After is death, there are now 2 Wrecker combiners. The joke is now on him

Hellscream9999 wrote:Who says it has to be Toxitron,

Who else would they make a mold with an "evil Optimus Prime" head out of when Nemesis Prime is off the table and SG Optimus is no more?

Hellscream9999 wrote:is that a thing?

Yes.

Hellscream9999 wrote:As 'Wreckers', I could see using Scattershot or Onslaught, since Onslaught was just used, I think Scattershot with a new head and combiner head and a bunch of guns would have been pretty cool

Except Scattershot was just used too. For Sea Clamp.

Sabrblade wrote:Plus, it was originally gonna be Nemesis Prime until Takara went and made Grand Scourge, forcing the Club to change its plans for the Motormaster mold's other pretooled head.

So if they hadn't gone with the Motormaster mold, we wouldn't be getting that final headsculpt.

Ohhhh, is there an element of "Motormaster/Optimus mold was already slotted for our use, we cannot practically change the mold in reaction to Takara's Grand Scourge, but we can change the deco."?

Thanks for this, WJ! Very cool to see them dropping these details so soon after the official announcement at Botcon.

Any word on the Ratbat and hologram Megatron toys? Have they given and details about how to get our eager little paws on them?

RevTibe wrote:Ohhhh, is there an element of "Motormaster/Optimus mold was already slotted for our use, we cannot practically change the mold in reaction to Takara's Grand Scourge, but we can change the deco."?

The Club was gonna make use of the Motormaster mold's alternate headsculpt by turning it into Nemesis Prime, but when Takara made Grand Scourge out of the regular Optimus mold, that made the Club's plans for Nemesis Prime redundant, so they switched the deco into Toxitron instead.

Optimutt wrote:Any word on the Ratbat and hologram Megatron toys? Have they given and details about how to get our eager little paws on them?

That Joe/TF set will be a Club store exclusive like the last two.

RevTibe wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Plus, it was originally gonna be Nemesis Prime until Takara went and made Grand Scourge, forcing the Club to change its plans for the Motormaster mold's other pretooled head.

So if they hadn't gone with the Motormaster mold, we wouldn't be getting that final headsculpt.

Ohhhh, is there an element of "Motormaster/Optimus mold was already slotted for our use, we cannot practically change the mold in reaction to Takara's Grand Scourge, but we can change the deco."?

The point is that the Motormaster tooling has an alternate head built in (that "Nemesis Prime" head. In fact, every CW toy has two heads) that would have gone unused by Hasbro and TakaraTomy, so FunPub decided it would be perfect to use and build a character around it, without going through the expense of making a new one from scratch. Since TakaraTomy already released a Nemesis Prime-like character, using the same base mold (those get tiring... nope, already run down) they used their fallback: Toxitron.

G.B. Blackrock wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:So Wreckers are a mix of and now? That seems a little weird, so who's stuff do they wreck now since they're comprised of a mix of allegiances?

(EDIT: The bio referencing "Survivors" seems to be a decided nod to the UK stuff)

As is Operation : Volcano.

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Who says it has to be Toxitron,

Who else would they make a mold with an "evil Optimus Prime" head out of when Nemesis Prime is off the table and SG Optimus is no more?

Hellscream9999 wrote:is that a thing?

Yes.

Hellscream9999 wrote:As 'Wreckers', I could see using Scattershot or Onslaught, since Onslaught was just used, I think Scattershot with a new head and combiner head and a bunch of guns would have been pretty cool

Except Scattershot was just used too. For Sea Clamp.

Huh, well I guess that makes some sense then.

As for Sea Clamp, I was only trying to align a torso mold that fit with the ethos of 'Wreckers', you have to admit, a scattershot with his combiner gun equipped under his nose-barrel, with a couple extra guns plugged into him would fit that bill

If Impactor is part of this particular combiner, that means the bonus 7th figure of 5.0 will likely be the 5th member of the team.

Wouldn't be surprised if Wreckage and Thunder Mayhem were nemeses.

megatronus wrote:If Impactor is part of this particular combiner, that means the bonus 7th figure of 5.0 will likely be the 5th member of the team.

Wouldn't be surprised if Wreckage and Thunder Mayhem were nemeses.

Agreed. Would be cool if the 7th was Punch somehow

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

megatronus wrote:If Impactor is part of this particular combiner, that means the bonus 7th figure of 5.0 will likely be the 5th member of the team.

Wouldn't be surprised if Wreckage and Thunder Mayhem were nemeses.

Agreed. Would be cool if the 7th was Punch somehow

If I were a betting man, I would sure wager on that! Sounds like a no-brainer to me.

megatronus wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

megatronus wrote:If Impactor is part of this particular combiner, that means the bonus 7th figure of 5.0 will likely be the 5th member of the team.

Wouldn't be surprised if Wreckage and Thunder Mayhem were nemeses.

Agreed. Would be cool if the 7th was Punch somehow

If I were a betting man, I would sure wager on that! Sounds like a no-brainer to me.

Imagine if this combiner had both Punch and Counterpunch and they were the arms.

"I'm gonna punch you!"
"Then I'll Counter-punch you!"

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

megatronus wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

megatronus wrote:If Impactor is part of this particular combiner, that means the bonus 7th figure of 5.0 will likely be the 5th member of the team.

Wouldn't be surprised if Wreckage and Thunder Mayhem were nemeses.

Agreed. Would be cool if the 7th was Punch somehow

If I were a betting man, I would sure wager on that! Sounds like a no-brainer to me.

Imagine if this combiner had both Punch and Counterpunch and they were the arms.

"I'm gonna punch you!"
"Then I'll Counter-punch you!"

Must... have...

The comic implied that Punch had been severely injured and Lifeline was only able to save him by completely removing the Punch mode, thus leaving only Counterpunch. So a Punch figure might not be impossible.

Sabrblade wrote:

Deadput wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Sounds awesome, shame they're using the MM/OP mold, it could've been amazing

The mold itself is not bad not great but not awful either.

But really what would you have made Toxitron from neither HotSpot or Onslaught fit Toxitron that well unless they want to change his alt mode?

Plus, it was originally gonna be Nemesis Prime until Takara went and made Grand Scourge, forcing the Club to change its plans for the Motormaster mold's other pretooled head.

So if they hadn't gone with the Motormaster mold, we wouldn't be getting that final headsculpt.

But if the head was pretooled, why wasn't it used on Grand Scourge?

I don't mind the choice of mold - I'm actually especially pleased to finally have a Toxitron in my collection.

megatronus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Deadput wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Sounds awesome, shame they're using the MM/OP mold, it could've been amazing

The mold itself is not bad not great but not awful either.

But really what would you have made Toxitron from neither HotSpot or Onslaught fit Toxitron that well unless they want to change his alt mode?

Plus, it was originally gonna be Nemesis Prime until Takara went and made Grand Scourge, forcing the Club to change its plans for the Motormaster mold's other pretooled head.

So if they hadn't gone with the Motormaster mold, we wouldn't be getting that final headsculpt.

But if the head was pretooled, why wasn't it used on Grand Scourge?.

Who knows? Takara wanted a more "regular" Optimus Prime head for their "dark Prime" instead of a more clearly "evil" Optimus Prime head....

Autobot N wrote:The comic implied that Punch had been severely injured and Lifeline was only able to save him by completely removing the Punch mode, thus leaving only Counterpunch. So a Punch figure might not be impossible.

People said the same about why Slingshot wouldnt be released udner combiner wars and, well, he was.

Longtime lurker, first time poster. Like the community here. I'm very excited about the Mayhems and I'm splitting sub 5.0 with some friends (I get the Combiners). Appreciate all the info and updates some of you provide.

I'll second that one of either 4.0 or 5.0 bonus figures is the fifth wrecker needed for Wreckage. We know (I can't remember the source) that the mystery figure for 4.0 is a deluxe Autobot (I'm calling Rotorstorm, or Guzzle).

Either way it looks like we're getting two full on Mayhem and Wrecker combiners. ^^

Now just waiting for FP to add botcon leftovers and the Magnaboss sticker reprints to the club store...

Cheers all!

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:The comic implied that Punch had been severely injured and Lifeline was only able to save him by completely removing the Punch mode, thus leaving only Counterpunch. So a Punch figure might not be impossible.

People said the same about why Slingshot wouldn't be released under combiner wars and, well, he was.

Autobot N wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:The comic implied that Punch had been severely injured and Lifeline was only able to save him by completely removing the Punch mode, thus leaving only Counterpunch. So a Punch figure might not be impossible.

People said the same about why Slingshot wouldn't be released under combiner wars and, well, he was.

My mitake, I misread that. So yeah, we are on the same page.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:The point is that the Motormaster tooling has an alternate head built in (that "Nemesis Prime" head. In fact, every CW toy has two heads) that would have gone unused by Hasbro and TakaraTomy, so FunPub decided it would be perfect to use and build a character around it, without going through the expense of making a new one from scratch. Since TakaraTomy already released a Nemesis Prime-like character, using the same base mold (those get tiring... nope, already run down) they used their fallback: Toxitron.

Sabrblade wrote:The Club was gonna make use of the Motormaster mold's alternate headsculpt by turning it into Nemesis Prime, but when Takara made Grand Scourge out of the regular Optimus mold, that made the Club's plans for Nemesis Prime redundant, so they switched the deco into Toxitron instead.

Yeah, I'm aware of the pretooled head, but I was curious if that was the sole reason for sticking with the MM/OP mold after "losing" Nemesis - I don't think FunPub's generally let pretooled heads guide their choices (although SG Ultra Magnus's backstory was certainly shaped by the pretool), especially since they've ignored prominent unused pretool heads in the past (such as Generations Warpath's Hardhead pretool).

That, and I doubt Optimus #3 is the only pretooled voyager head gone unused in the pretool-happy Combiner Wars line - I'd imagine there'd be interest in unveiling an unused Hot Spot pretool head. These factors left me curious about whether or not FunPub was already "locked" to using the MM/OP mold.

(Hmmm, Ask Vector Prime mentioned a case of RID Scourge (i.e., Nemesis Prime) being forcefully converted into Toxitron. Wonder if there's a connection...).