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MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Sat Aug 11, 2018 5:30 pm

I think it's a bigger problem comparing RID Warrior class to Cyberverse Warrior class. About all they have in common is the name because much of the RID Warriors were very much equal to the Generations Deluxes, but Cyberverse has nothing in common.

Emerje

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:37 am

Does anyone else think Thundercracker is going to be a store exclusive of sorts?

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:08 am

What makes you think it will be a exclusive?

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:11 pm

Emerje wrote:I think it's a bigger problem comparing RID Warrior class to Cyberverse Warrior class. About all they have in common is the name because much of the RID Warriors were very much equal to the Generations Deluxes, but Cyberverse has nothing in common.

Emerje

I agree 100%. This gives warriors a bad name and i hate how this reinforces the false conception that the RID warriors were simplified toys to unaware fans. But then again after market prices dont lie so we'll see (why so expensive!!! https://m.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_from=R40& ... +windblade)

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:07 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:What makes you think it will be a exclusive?

Simple repaint of a wave 1 figure, there's nothing really special to it. This would've been a TRU exclusive back in the day.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:09 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:What makes you think it will be a exclusive?

Simple repaint of a wave 1 figure, there's nothing really special to it. This would've been a TRU exclusive back in the day.

None of the CW Seekers were exclusives, neither were the legends seekers or the FOC seekers. Heck, Starscream and Skywarp both got releases in RiD and TC didn't and both Scream and Warp were regular retail.

There really isn't any evidence whatsoever this would have been an exclusive

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:45 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:What makes you think it will be a exclusive?

Simple repaint of a wave 1 figure, there's nothing really special to it. This would've been a TRU exclusive back in the day.

None of the CW Seekers were exclusives, neither were the legends seekers or the FOC seekers. Heck, Starscream and Skywarp both got releases in RiD and TC didn't and both Scream and Warp were regular retail.

There really isn't any evidence whatsoever this would have been an exclusive

The op probably saw that the last thundercracker toy we got was a TRU exclusive repaint and assumed something similar

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:06 pm

william-james88 wrote:The op probably saw that the last thundercracker toy we got was a TRU exclusive repaint and assumed something similar

I think he's thinking more in line with the TRU exclusive RID "Clash of the Transformers" which was where a lot of the more random repaints turned up. But I'd argue that more of them showed up in the main line, including retools into new characters like Thermidor.

Emerje

by **noctorro** » Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:26 am

Wow, mixed feelings people.

I just got the Ultra (I think) Megatron. The one that turns into a muscle train with a big cannon. I love his alt-mode and I also dig his robot mode.
I will try to figure out to make his canon removable.

Only complaint is removable cannon should be standard and I wish his head could turn and the complaint I ALWAYS have. Megatron & Optimus should be voyager sized.
But I think he's a great figure, price 40 euro's was good (compared to The Last Knight voyagers being 42 euro's here people)

I got Starscream last weekend because I saw that there will be repaints of more seekers and my favorite Slip Stream (sucks that she's the non-transformer tiny scout version. Fingers crossed she'll also be Warrior class)
I don't like the gimmick, I will glue his wings shut and I will put some stuff in the waist so that it doesn't turn easily. Overall I do like the mode. Fake chest is my pet peeve. But I find it serviceable.

Also got Shockwave, I love this guy. Yes he's a bit hollow and his gimmick gun is kind of in the way. But he's a solid looking Shockwave guy. I love the energon veins pink. I love me some spider-tank. He doesn't need a great alt-mode for me. I love this guy. I might buy more and have him be the Voyager Battalion Shockwave's soldiers (the bigger Shockwave is on his way from the US)

Question:

Anybody else bothered that Thundercracker has the same headsculpt as Starscream? Him and Acid Storm should have more stern, masculine square heads according to the artwork. I wish they had those blocky heads instead of just the sleeker feminine head. Anyway tiny nitpick.

Is Acid Storm a women by the way? In the artwork he or she has lipstick. Would be cool to have a beefy square headed female seeker.

Wishes for the line: Get a Slipstream Warrior painted version, and don't you dare forget Skywarp Hasbro!
I also would like Shadow Striker to get a Warrior version (I think that's a female to right?)

That's all, Siege is the thing that's going to kill my wallet next year. After Combiner Wars, Titans Return and Power of the Primes did before.
I really can't complain. I'll finally be getting my true-torso Ironhide which I wanted for years.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:39 am

noctorro wrote:Anybody else bothered that Thundercracker has the same headsculpt as Starscream? Him and Acid Storm should have more stern, masculine square heads according to the artwork. I wish they had those blocky heads instead of just the sleeker feminine head. Anyway tiny nitpick.

I wouldn't call it a tiny nitpick, Hasbro is being very lazy with a character that's appearing prominently in advertizing. There's no reason why they couldn't have at the very least pre-tooled a new head and cockpit. Only character I can think of in RID that got it this bad was Blastwave, a straight repaint (pre-paint?) of Bludgeon.

Emerje

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:11 am

Well just seen my first cyberverse release in person at my local Asda...and it was just the one step changer bumblebee, repainted from the rid release. :lol:

had it been warrior Shockwave though and I might have bought it.

News Credits: 42 · by **Autobot N** » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:15 am

Emerje wrote:Only character I can think of in RID that got it this bad was Blastwave, a straight repaint (pre-paint?) of Bludgeon.

Emerje

Which is kind of ironic, since he was in the show and Bludgeon wasn't.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:27 am

noctorro wrote:Is Acid Storm a women by the way? In the artwork he or she has lipstick.

That's his open mouth, not lipstick.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:56 am

Sabrblade wrote:

Now with karate chop action!

by **noctorro** » Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:33 am

Sabrblade wrote:
noctorro wrote:Is Acid Storm a women by the way? In the artwork he or she has lipstick.
That's his open mouth, not lipstick.

Lol you're right.
I think I saw a smaller image and it looked like thick dark lipstick.
Well I think we'll get a Gina Carano like Transformer in the future.
But he's a dude.

by **noctorro** » Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:33 am

Emerje wrote:
noctorro wrote:Anybody else bothered that Thundercracker has the same headsculpt as Starscream? Him and Acid Storm should have more stern, masculine square heads according to the artwork. I wish they had those blocky heads instead of just the sleeker feminine head. Anyway tiny nitpick.

I wouldn't call it a tiny nitpick, Hasbro is being very lazy with a character that's appearing prominently in advertizing. There's no reason why they couldn't have at the very least pre-tooled a new head and cockpit. Only character I can think of in RID that got it this bad was Blastwave, a straight repaint (pre-paint?) of Bludgeon.

Emerje

Okay I agree with this

. Should be a new head.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:59 am

noctorro wrote:
Emerje wrote:
noctorro wrote:Anybody else bothered that Thundercracker has the same headsculpt as Starscream? Him and Acid Storm should have more stern, masculine square heads according to the artwork. I wish they had those blocky heads instead of just the sleeker feminine head. Anyway tiny nitpick.

I wouldn't call it a tiny nitpick, Hasbro is being very lazy with a character that's appearing prominently in advertizing. There's no reason why they couldn't have at the very least pre-tooled a new head and cockpit. Only character I can think of in RID that got it this bad was Blastwave, a straight repaint (pre-paint?) of Bludgeon.

Emerje

Okay I agree with this . Should be a new head.

Maybe they're saving it for Acid Storm? :lol:

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:03 am

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:What makes you think it will be a exclusive?

Simple repaint of a wave 1 figure, there's nothing really special to it. This would've been a TRU exclusive back in the day.

None of the CW Seekers were exclusives, neither were the legends seekers or the FOC seekers. Heck, Starscream and Skywarp both got releases in RiD and TC didn't and both Scream and Warp were regular retail.

There really isn't any evidence whatsoever this would have been an exclusive

It's just a gut feeling I have based on 15 years or so experience. Thus far the warrior Starscream toy isn't proving to be popular and nobody has ever caused a stampede over Thundercracker. Except for me, that was a long time ago.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:09 am

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:What makes you think it will be a exclusive?

Simple repaint of a wave 1 figure, there's nothing really special to it. This would've been a TRU exclusive back in the day.

None of the CW Seekers were exclusives, neither were the legends seekers or the FOC seekers. Heck, Starscream and Skywarp both got releases in RiD and TC didn't and both Scream and Warp were regular retail.

There really isn't any evidence whatsoever this would have been an exclusive

It's just a gut feeling I have based on 15 years or so experience. Thus far the warrior Starscream toy isn't proving to be popular and nobody has ever caused a stampede over Thundercracker. Except for me, that was a long time ago.

So far no exclusives have been announced or even leaked. I think they're gonna keep the focus on the Bumblebee movie and Generations with those. It's not like RiD 2015 had a lot of them, just the TRU Clash of the Transformers series and the Target One-Step Multi-pack. That's it, no joke.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:17 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So far no exclusives have been announced or even leaked. I think they're gonna keep the focus on the Bumblebee movie and Generations with those. It's not like RiD 2015 had a lot of them, just the TRU Clash of the Transformers series and the Target One-Step Multi-pack. That's it, no joke.

It doesn't sound like much when you put it that way, but it comes to 15 releases consisting of 24 figures total. That's a lot.

Emerje

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:29 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
noctorro wrote:
Emerje wrote:
noctorro wrote:Anybody else bothered that Thundercracker has the same headsculpt as Starscream? Him and Acid Storm should have more stern, masculine square heads according to the artwork. I wish they had those blocky heads instead of just the sleeker feminine head. Anyway tiny nitpick.

I wouldn't call it a tiny nitpick, Hasbro is being very lazy with a character that's appearing prominently in advertizing. There's no reason why they couldn't have at the very least pre-tooled a new head and cockpit. Only character I can think of in RID that got it this bad was Blastwave, a straight repaint (pre-paint?) of Bludgeon.

Emerje

Okay I agree with this . Should be a new head.

Maybe they're saving it for Acid Storm?

They are not

Also, the crazy thing about Blastwave is that the animation model was a redeco of Megatronus, so he should have shared that body rather than Bludgeon's

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:50 am

I feel pretty confident in thinking that Blastwave's toy was designed and made before his cartoon model was, meaning the animators just saved money by not changing Megatronus's cartoon model into Blastwave's as much as Hasbro changed Megatronus's toy into Blastwave's and Bludgeon's toys.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:35 am

Sabrblade wrote:I feel pretty confident in thinking that Blastwave's toy was designed and made before his cartoon model was, meaning the animators just saved money by not changing Megatronus's cartoon model into Blastwave's as much as Hasbro changed Megatronus's toy into Blastwave's and Bludgeon's toys.

I'm not so sure, the card art is also cartoon accurate so they must have been aware pretty early on. More likely it was cheaper to repaint Bludgeon than to add a new head to the Megatronus mold. Why they wouldn't have just added a non-skull face to the Bludgeon mold I don't know.

Emerje

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:06 pm

Sabrblade wrote:I feel pretty confident in thinking that Blastwave's toy was designed and made before his cartoon model was, meaning the animators just saved money by not changing Megatronus's cartoon model into Blastwave's as much as Hasbro changed Megatronus's toy into Blastwave's and Bludgeon's toys.

Hasn't it been that the toys are based on the animation designs since Transformers animated?

Well here are some facts for Cyberverse.

Production on the show started in Janurary 2017
Toyline came out in Summer 2018 (and had to be finished Spring 2018)
Toy cycle for Seige was 2 years

:-?

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:20 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I feel pretty confident in thinking that Blastwave's toy was designed and made before his cartoon model was, meaning the animators just saved money by not changing Megatronus's cartoon model into Blastwave's as much as Hasbro changed Megatronus's toy into Blastwave's and Bludgeon's toys.

Hasn't it been that the toys are based on the animation designs since Transformers animated?

Aside from Thermidor, all the new toys advertised by the Starscream arc between Seasons 2 and 3 were known about before that mini-series came about.

Likewise, the combiners and Activators in Season 3 felt more like Hasbro-initiated concepts rather than ideas the show came up with first and which were turned into toys afterward.

Similarly, the whole Beast Hunters thing for TF: Prime was toy-first since Hasbro sprung it on the show makers at the 11th hour and forced them to put Predaking and Optimus's new body into the show.