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Transformers Dark of the Moon DOTM teaser trailer debuts today at 4pm PST

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Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon DOTM teaser trailer debuts today at 4pm PST

Postby Nemesis Hacker » Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:51 am

im undecided on whether the protoforms are autobot, decepticon or even mercenaries but i am swaying towards decepticons because the chamber that the (what im calling autobot elder for the time being) is in loooks like a cell as if he has been captured.
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Postby Soundwave1979 » Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:18 am

Nemesis Hacker wrote:im undecided on whether the protoforms are autobot, decepticon or even mercenaries but i am swaying towards decepticons because the chamber that the (what im calling autobot elder for the time being) is in loooks like a cell as if he has been captured.


My thoughts exactly...you can even see something strapped over his shoulders, like it's holding him down...
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Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon DOTM teaser trailer debuts today at 4pm PST

Postby Nemesis Hacker » Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:33 am

Soundwave1979 wrote:
Nemesis Hacker wrote:im undecided on whether the protoforms are autobot, decepticon or even mercenaries but i am swaying towards decepticons because the chamber that the (what im calling autobot elder for the time being) is in loooks like a cell as if he has been captured.


My thoughts exactly...you can even see something strapped over his shoulders, like it's holding him down...



yh i saw too, looking forward to finding out lol no doubt b4 the films out we will all know quite a bit more ive never been bovered with spoilersnits all about seeing it happen
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Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon DOTM teaser trailer debuts today at 4pm PST

Postby Joshua Vallse » Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:43 am

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I honestly think the ship is an autobot ship really, I mean the autobots need to come from somewhere and then arrive on earth via the sky as established in the first film. The nearest orbiting body is the moon, and the Decepticons base of operations has already been established on Mars, I'm betting it's all autobots. Any Decepticon looking bots may just be recycled models being used as filler from ROTf in response to Paramounts forced turnaround.

Kinda like how all the "Primes" accept Optimus looks like the Fallen, I'm betting there wasn't enough time or money to develop whole new characters for that short sequence..so they just altered the existing "Fallen" model and labeled them "Primes".

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Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon DOTM teaser trailer debuts today at 4pm PST

Postby BLUDGEON » Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:29 am

Is it just me, or do those 'blast doors' look a bit Unicrony,........its a real word. Anyway, as soon as I saw it before looking at any forums I thought 'Arblus ,......look ...its Unicron.'
I had an instant image in my head of the moon transforming. But then saw the size of it and thought it would be too small. My big thing was though, did anyone see the big head in the sand.........
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Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon DOTM teaser trailer debuts today at 4pm PST

Postby Artakha Prime » Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:46 am

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WOW... i really must say, this is one job that Bay did damn good. The bot at the end looks like.. can it be... ALPHA TRION?
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Postby Overloaded » Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:19 am

I taught the character at the end was Prowl just a taught but either it will make a fantastic movie
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Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon DOTM teaser trailer debuts today at 4pm PST

Postby SLUGSLINGER81 » Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:32 am

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WTF!!! So how much is the Fraggin' government hiding about the transformers, first they were discovered in the Artic circle, hid them in Hoover dam, learned that they were in mars & now they knew of them since the 60's!!! :BOOM: All I have to say though is that this movie looks like it has substance and will blow us out of our pants...AWESOME!!! :APPLAUSE:
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Postby gantzrunner » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:36 am

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Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon DOTM teaser trailer debuts today at 4pm PST

Postby wolverinetodd » Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:06 am

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If this crashed ship is found on Earth's moon in 1969, then the US government covered up this discovery. Understandable. Yet when the Mars rover caught sight of a Decepticon before it was destroyed in 2006/2007, the 1969 cover up Dark of the Moon files weren't reopened so as to link the two incidents. I understand that in the movie verse and the timing of each of the movies prevents this from timelining correctly, but it still puts a huge gaping hole in the plot.

Let's not forget that if, let's say Starscream was on Mars in 2006/2007 and he destroyed the Mars rover, then at the end of the first movie left Earth for supposedly one of Saturn's moons (someone mentioned this in an earlier post) to work out the plot of the second movie with The Fallen. Throughout all that time of focusing on Earth and traveling through space, none of the Decepticons landed on Earth's moon to study Earth a little closer nor did they fly pass the moon and come across this huge crashed Cybertronian ship? Yet another plot hole I'm betting Bay won't fill.
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Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon DOTM teaser trailer debuts today at 4pm PST

Postby Robinson » Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:10 am

the ship may have been removed somehow between 69 and 07, and as someone mentioned only sector 7 knew about mars, and maybe only nasa knows about this ship.


The government in its real form is not known for communitcating thoroughly with each other so i could see that parlay into the movies.
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Postby SlyTF1 » Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:58 am

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Robinson wrote:the ship may have been removed somehow between 69 and 07, and as someone mentioned only sector 7 knew about mars, and maybe only nasa knows about this ship.


The government in its real form is not known for communitcating thoroughly with each other so i could see that parlay into the movies.


Besides, even the secratary of defence never heard of S7 in TF1.
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Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon DOTM teaser trailer debuts today at 4pm PST

Postby SlyTF1 » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:00 am

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BLUDGEON wrote:Is it just me, or do those 'blast doors' look a bit Unicrony,........its a real word. Anyway, as soon as I saw it before looking at any forums I thought 'Arblus ,......look ...its Unicron.'
I had an instant image in my head of the moon transforming. But then saw the size of it and thought it would be too small. My big thing was though, did anyone see the big head in the sand.........


IT WAS THE SHIP'S HEAD!!! Maybe it's Omega Supream!!!
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Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon DOTM teaser trailer debuts today at 4pm PST

Postby OlivusPrime » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:02 am

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Good teaser, quite a good, mature tone going on here in contrast to ROTF (although they haven't shown ANY clips of Shia LaBeouf mucking around). Sad to see only one new face, as some of you have said, the quality of the teaser is probably worse than the ROTF one. I can say that I was on the edge of my seat, looking for Shockwave right the way through!

I agree with everyone saying that the big bot is Sentinel Prime. He's obviously an Autobot, has plenty of homages to both G1 Sentinel Prime and Movie Optimus Prime in his appearance, and if anyone remembers, there was also a security guard on the set who apparently mentioned Sentinel Prime (He said that Sentinel would be Optimus' dad :( and that he would be the firetruck seen on the streets). Alpha Trion would be prefferable though...

...but remember, we also saw listings for an Alpha Trion Leader class toy. Could this indicate the character's appearance in the film, or does it negate any chance of an appearance? Discuss!
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Has anyone checked the movie's website lately?

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Has any one checked the movie site lately? IT IS COMING! http://www.transformersmovie.com/
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Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon DOTM teaser trailer debuts today at 4pm PST

Postby Wolfman Jake » Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:07 pm

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OlivusPrime wrote:...but remember, we also saw listings for an Alpha Trion Leader class toy. Could this indicate the character's appearance in the film, or does it negate any chance of an appearance? Discuss!


That listing was a hoax, I'm afraid. So don't get your hopes up based on that bit of misinformation.
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Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon DOTM teaser trailer debuts today at 4pm PST

Postby Joker'sRequiem » Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:31 pm

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budmaloney wrote:
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Skyfire-5 wrote:Michael Bay's whole Transformers trilogy has been a stick up the arse... REBOOT THIS MOVIE FRANCHISE HUMAN FREE!!!

Whenever I see posts like this it makes me think of this:
"For reasons unknown, a substantial number of human Transformers fans appear to have a very drastic, dismissive position when it comes to the inclusion of representatives of their species in Transformers fiction, some even going as far as demanding that Transformers fiction should be devoid of any flesh creatures whatsoever, unless being depicted as helpless victims/casualties of Decepticon attack"
- TF Wiki

Seriously though, I enjoyed the teaser, although it did leave a lot to be desired. I hope to see something new around the Super Bowl, just to peak my excitement.



I have to say, I'm not a fan of the humans either. I watch TF because they're not human. Everything is saturated by humans (obviously cause well, we are human). But I mean in a pop culture kind of way (xmen, superheroes, hell even pokemon revolves around humans). Not many shows/ sci fi movies have sentient personafied objects. But since it's a movie, there HAS to be humans, and asking for no humans is just idiotic. How do you expect them to have actors then? What we need is another animated movie, fair enough we can cut down on human inclusion make them Decepticon puppets.
I know this is a quote from Wiki and not your sentiments. But look @ shows like Beast Wars, which were very successful, due to character driven story. Fine in Season 3 humans came aboard (mind you I wouldn't call them humans.). In ROTF when they added more robots to please fans, they erased them easily, decepticons were so weak, Humans were the ones doing the fighting.
As a TF, I don't care what's out there , because I can't control it, and at the end of the day ... (one shall stand...).. sry, I mean at the end of the day, it's a toy company making money. Decisions taken to include humans/characters/color schemes are all based on something, which I respect.
But truly truly, I do not wish to see humans in the next film, band wagonners can go watch Spiderman or some other crap. But they're essential to the crappy plot, whatcan I say.
I'm excited for the film, since It's the last one of the series (I hope) I do not want to see TF butchered further. Hopefully Marvel Disney combo will push Hasrbo for true innovation. (Not that there hasn't been innovation , in toy design, character design) But innovation in delivery, I'm not sure if that's Bay's fault , or the writers.

Long rant

bottom line, I like teaser, sort of . I'm pissed as why we have never heard of a ship on the moon from the previous 2 movies. But if they include such a plot changing feature that means, they added something worthy. So we'll see.
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I can definitely agree with you on Beast Wars, as that was my first introduction into TFs. But I think human inclusion has to be looked at within the context of the story and setting. WFC had no humans because it was set on Cybertron prior to human contact. BW had proto-Humans, and very few proto-humans at that, but they became almost essential to the plot. Dinobot sacrificed his spark to save those humans, and in turn ALL of humanity. I think what has caused the sentiments that many feel about humans are the "annoying" human sidekicks, who serve no real use other than being a cheerleader and someone for the Autobots to rescue. I think, especially after Armada/Energon/Cybertron, humans aren't looked at favorably. For me, Sam falls somewhere in the middle. He's annoying at times, but still tolerable. I do wish they would tone down the "Rag tag group of soldiers can bring down 15 or so Decepticons while the Autobots provide moral support" direction the military's involvement seems to take. Although, realistically, if giant Alien Robots were on our planet, I'd expect the military to at least try to kick ass.

I've slept on the trailer, and have several more thoughts on it. I think the crashed ship is a Transformer. I haven't decided who, because I'm not so sure which faction controlled the ship before it crashed. I'm thinking it's a Autobot, namely Omega Supreme, and that the contents of his ship are the result of a Decepticon assault on the ship. The line "the hull has been breached" stuck out to me. Granted, it could simply be that a meteor struck it, but I'm thinking it was attacked by another ship. Also, the gold bot: he seems to be restrained, or at least held in place by something. I'm thinking he was being interrogated by someone (Shockwave) before going offline. On the flip side, if the ship is a TF AND is a Decepticon, I'd guess the ship itself is Astrotrain (fingers crossed) and that the reverse happened (An Autobot ship attacked, boarded the ship, and then the ship crash landed on the Moon). I'm inclined to go with the former, mainly because the gold bot looks more like an Autobot. I see elements of Alpha Trion and Sentinel Prime in him. However, from the info we have (that Sentinel Prime is slated to be a character), I'm inclined to think he is Sentinel Prime. Either he's Optimus' (and Megatron's) father, or simply Optimus' predecessor as Prime. His disappearance made Optimus the last Prime. Sentinel is also mentioned as having led an expedition away from Cybertron. But that's just my thoughts on it. I'm just hoping this lives up to my expectations, which are still relatively high.
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Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon DOTM teaser trailer debuts today at 4pm PST

Postby syphonn » Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:39 pm

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My excitement level is relatively still the same, close to zero. Maybe because the first two trailers, though good due to short action scenes and position music, were complete misrepresentations of the farce that followed.
As for the robot at the end, it is clearly on the side of "good" since it has a humanesque face and all the previous "evil" robots have bug faces ... but as to who it is, is anyone's guess.
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Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon DOTM teaser trailer debuts today at 4pm PST

Postby budmaloney » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:04 pm

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I've given it more thought.

We have to consider why the ship crashed in the first place. Was it shot down? Earth's Magnetic field? How come the crew of the ship didn't wake up before the humans touching it.

I'm ruling out Unicron as the moon thing, for one single reason. It's the moon, if it happens to be Unicron and he transforms, Earth is screwed, it would be the movie 2012 instead of Tf 3.

I like the idea that it is a prime. But I don't think they'd contradict themselves that he's the last prime , and build the entire second movie on that concept. So no prime.

So the guy is old, and he's colorful. His eyes aren't red. Meaning he's an Autobot. He has Cybertronian language on his crown.

Let's think as they do. Why would they show us this guy in the trailer. And not something else. His features are similar to all what you guys mentioned above. Primarily being Alpha Trion. I'd say 80% he's some one we know. Since the teasing is useless if it's a totally new character. It could be Sunstreaker for all we know, or even Huffer. They made Jetfire an old bot, why not someone else in a new light. Silverbolt?

But what does it mean that this guy is waking up? Usually in trailers like this, it's a foreshadowing, he's evil, he wakes up. But this guy is good (sort of). What would him waking up mean? That he is a messenger warning us of the impending doom ? (Unircon for example). Why would they tease us about someone waking up who will end up being good and friendly. It's definitely not the discovery by the human race. Because by now, I think the human race already knows.

I'm guessing it will be related to a revalation for the Transformers more than the humans. Maybe he knows who made the Allspark.

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Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon DOTM teaser trailer debuts today at 4pm PST

Postby DavidT » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:10 pm

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budmaloney wrote:Because by now, I think the human race already knows.


The trailer takes place in the 60's... The human race doesn't know yet ;)

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Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon DOTM teaser trailer debuts today at 4pm PST

Postby Dr. Caelus » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:26 pm

You know, after thinking about the fact that he is gold, I briefly wondered if he was going to slip outside and replace the Moon-lander, to return to Earth with the Astronauts in cognito.

Then I remembered that the LEM had to split in half (the gold half being left behind) in order to leave the moon and reunite with the CSM, and then that half would have been left behind in orbit to crash back into the moon.

Life would suck for that guy, huh?



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budmaloney wrote:But what does it mean that this guy is waking up? Usually in trailers like this, it's a foreshadowing, he's evil, he wakes up. But this guy is good (sort of). What would him waking up mean? That he is a messenger warning us of the impending doom ? (Unircon for example). Why would they tease us about someone waking up who will end up being good and friendly. It's definitely not the discovery by the human race. Because by now, I think the human race already knows.


The trailer takes place in the 60's... The human race doesn't know yet ;)
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budmaloney wrote:I'm ruling out Unicron as the moon thing, for one single reason. It's the moon, if it happens to be Unicron and he transforms, Earth is screwed, it would be the movie 2012 instead of Tf 3.


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Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon DOTM teaser trailer debuts today at 4pm PST

Postby DavidT » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:46 pm

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budmaloney wrote:But what does it mean that this guy is waking up? Usually in trailers like this, it's a foreshadowing, he's evil, he wakes up. But this guy is good (sort of). What would him waking up mean? That he is a messenger warning us of the impending doom ? (Unircon for example). Why would they tease us about someone waking up who will end up being good and friendly. It's definitely not the discovery by the human race. Because by now, I think the human race already knows.


The trailer takes place in the 60's... The human race doesn't know yet ;)
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Yes, but that's only a handful of humans.... the way budmaloney phrases it, it sounds like he is referring to 'human race' as the whole world, as if the new trailer takes place after ROTF where everyone knows now
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Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon DOTM teaser trailer debuts today at 4pm PST

Postby DavidT » Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:59 pm

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rockman_fan wrote:well, there's no sign of skids, mudflap, or wheelie, so i like it




Shhhhh! LOL

Well we already saw alt. mode pics for Skids and Mudflap when production 1st started but none since... I imagine they will get wiped out somewhere around the beginning of the movie :)
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Re: Transformers Dark of the Moon DOTM teaser trailer debuts today at 4pm PST

Postby starscream2222 » Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:09 pm

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Id just like to give my opinion.

This unknown autobot aboard this ship could probably not be sentinel prime. look at the facts. several thousand years ago all the primes (and the fallen) created the sun harveter. Then the primes killed themselves to hide the matrix from the fallen. SEVERAL THOUSAND YEARS AGO.

So how did sentinel prime get aboard this ship. Unless Bay has made sentinel a descendent like optimus, this cant be sentinel.

Say what you will but thats what i think.
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