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News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 8:52 pm

Shadowman wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
YoungPrime wrote:Sigh....... This will get an average 6/10, 3/5 rating at best! It's like all of the backgrounds are the same and the button mashing gets old quick!

I'm as G1 as they come but this game isn't shaping up to be much.

Oh shadup. This is more story based.

First off, telling people to shut up when they don't agree with you: Cute!

Second, how do you know it's going to be "more story based"?

First of all I tell everyone to shadup, cuz that's my joking style, so shadup. :lol:

Second, that's what they said in an interview. As long as it's not just "go defeat the bad guys" and nothing else, I'm okay with it. If it's more story based, it's okay to me if most of the backgrounds are similar.

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:11 pm

SillySpringer wrote:
Shadowman wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
YoungPrime wrote:Sigh....... This will get an average 6/10, 3/5 rating at best! It's like all of the backgrounds are the same and the button mashing gets old quick!

I'm as G1 as they come but this game isn't shaping up to be much.

Oh shadup. This is more story based.

First off, telling people to shut up when they don't agree with you: Cute!

Second, how do you know it's going to be "more story based"?

First of all I tell everyone to shadup, cuz that's my joking style, so shadup.

Second, that's what they said in an interview. As long as it's not just "go defeat the bad guys" and nothing else, I'm okay with it. If it's more story based, it's okay to me if most of the backgrounds are similar.

Is there a link for this interview?

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:46 pm

YoungPrime wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
YoungPrime wrote:Sigh....... This will get an average 6/10, 3/5 rating at best! It's like all of the backgrounds are the same and the button mashing gets old quick!

I'm as G1 as they come but this game isn't shaping up to be much.

You honestly want them to show you every area in the game before its released?

You're reaching with that comment... So far we've seen battles against Megatron, Motormaster the Seekers and Devastator all of which have been in that cheap lifeless city. The only other location that I've seen has been wherever the cassettes and insecticons were fighting which doesn't look much better.

This is a $60 game, the same asking price as Metal Gear Phantom Pain! And since this game releases in a little over a month, so I don't think I'm off base when asking for a little more than 2 lackluster maps if there's actually even more scenery in this game.

It could be a 'demonstration level' or a level where you test the various aspects of the game. You create a 'standard' level and then use it to test for collision, transformation, animations, attacks, and various other mechanics. They probably have an executable made with just that level ready to go, which makes it pretty convenient for video capture.

Don't get me wrong, I noticed it, and thought it was kinda off-putting too, but I know there are a multitude of reasons for this. I think if the city weren't cel-shaded, it wouldn't be as noticable, as it does look like they used some fairly lazy textures on it, but again, it's probably a test level, that may show up in the game.

I agree, it still doesn't look like it's worth the asking price; nor does it look like it'll be very good as a hack'n'slash game either. If it comes down to it, I'd sooner buy more dlc for Dynasty Warriors 8 XL >:oP

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:58 pm

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
Shadowman wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
YoungPrime wrote:Sigh....... This will get an average 6/10, 3/5 rating at best! It's like all of the backgrounds are the same and the button mashing gets old quick!

I'm as G1 as they come but this game isn't shaping up to be much.

Oh shadup. This is more story based.

First off, telling people to shut up when they don't agree with you: Cute!

Second, how do you know it's going to be "more story based"?

First of all I tell everyone to shadup, cuz that's my joking style, so shadup.

Second, that's what they said in an interview. As long as it's not just "go defeat the bad guys" and nothing else, I'm okay with it. If it's more story based, it's okay to me if most of the backgrounds are similar.

Is there a link for this interview?

It may be in here:

But it's been a while, and I haven't bothered watching the whole thing again. Somewhere on Seibertron.com I either read it, or watched it. I can't remember where though. -_-

News Credits: 37 · by **SlyTF1** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:33 pm

YoungPrime wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
YoungPrime wrote:Sigh....... This will get an average 6/10, 3/5 rating at best! It's like all of the backgrounds are the same and the button mashing gets old quick!

I'm as G1 as they come but this game isn't shaping up to be much.

You honestly want them to show you every area in the game before its released?

You're reaching with that comment... So far we've seen battles against Megatron, Motormaster the Seekers and Devastator all of which have been in that cheap lifeless city. The only other location that I've seen has been wherever the cassettes and insecticons were fighting which doesn't look much better.

This is a $60 game, the same asking price as Metal Gear Phantom Pain! And since this game releases in a little over a month, so I don't think I'm off base when asking for a little more than 2 lackluster maps if there's actually even more scenery in this game.

They've shown a city, a city at night, a city at night in the rain, a bridge, a river section under a bridge, a tunnel, 2 or 3 Cybertronian locations, and it looks like the Starscream fight takes place inside of a space bridge while it's warping.

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 12:02 am

SlyTF1 wrote:They've shown a city, a city at night, a city at night in the rain

You understand that's only one map, right? Day/Night cycles and weather effects are old techniques, they were mastered with Ocarina of Time in '97. Free-roam games will include them standard. If they are treated as separate maps, well that's just lazy copy/pasting.

SlyTF1 wrote:a bridge, a river section under a bridge

Again, probably one map. Might even be part of the City map.

SlyTF1 wrote:2 or 3 Cybertronian locations

Or one Cybertronian location that we've seen different parts of.

SlyTF1 wrote:and it looks like the Starscream fight takes place inside of a space bridge while it's warping.

Which would make it a Boss Arena and not a proper map.

News Credits: 37 · by **SlyTF1** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 1:07 am

Shadowman wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:They've shown a city, a city at night, a city at night in the rain

You understand that's only one map, right? Day/Night cycles and weather effects are old techniques, they were mastered with Ocarina of Time in '97. Free-roam games will include them standard. If they are treated as separate maps, well that's just lazy copy/pasting.

SlyTF1 wrote:a bridge, a river section under a bridge

Again, probably one map. Might even be part of the City map.

SlyTF1 wrote:2 or 3 Cybertronian locations

Or one Cybertronian location that we've seen different parts of.

SlyTF1 wrote:and it looks like the Starscream fight takes place inside of a space bridge while it's warping.

Which would make it a Boss Arena and not a proper map.

I wasn't aware this was a free-roam game. And I'm talking locations, not entire maps.

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:55 am

SlyTF1 wrote:I wasn't aware this was a free-roam game.

I never said it was. Have you ever played games before? Levels aren't restricted to one tiny area, they can move across other sections of land. Try playing Half-Life 2 and mark the length between loading screens, that's what I'm talking about.

SlyTF1 wrote:And I'm talking locations, not entire maps.

And I'm talking about semantics, not synonyms.

by **YoungPrime** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 12:19 pm

For the record I'd like to put out there for the mindless drones that I'm not "hating" for the sake of hating. I'm only stating the obvious. Activision is notorious for playing it safe and cheap. Which is fine if this was a $30 game. But when you're asking the same price as Metal Gear or Witcher III for a game that clearly doesn't have a 3rd of the budget of those then I'm going to look at you sideways.

War For Cybertron is the best TF game to date but then you have to take into account that HighMoon was doing their own thing back then. Once activision sank their claws into HighMoon things were never the same. Fall of Cybertron had a cool Story mode but the online content was paltry at best. Tieger tried all he could but you can tell some other greedy jack@ss was calling the shots.

Rise of the Dark Spark is more proof of Activision taking what had great potential and making it a cheap movie cash grab.

Thus the reason I'm wary but if this game proves to be better than what I've seen then I suppose we all win.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:41 pm

YoungPrime wrote:War For Cybertron is the best TF game to date

That's a matter of opinion. And one I don't agree with.

But I do agree with what you said about price. If it's gonna be a high-cost game, like $60, it better not take any production shortcuts. Though it's been a while since I played an Activision game. (Is Deadpool an Activision game?) I'm pleasantly surprised, however, to see this come out on PS3. I thought I would finally have to pony up the dough for a PS4 just to get this game.

by **ShinkenPrime** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:30 pm

I played a level at comic con. I went from excited and will buy it to when it's on a severe sale. Combat was bland and repetative. Just simple button mashing. Controls are clunky. Transforming and controlling vehicle mode was not as good as I hoped. Shooting was bad and limited in terms of ammo. Game was too easy. I should not be beating devastator on my first try without even taking serious damage. And story? Even in the level, giving exceptions to incomplete levels, I saw nothing about story.

Call me me a hater but unless it changed around almost completely this is a cheap cash in at full price.

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:36 pm

ShinkenPrime wrote:I played a level at comic con. I went from excited and will buy it to when it's on a severe sale. Combat was bland and repetative. Just simple button mashing. Controls are clunky. Transforming and controlling vehicle mode was not as good as I hoped. Shooting was bad and limited in terms of ammo. Game was too easy. I should not be beating devastator on my first try without even taking serious damage. And story? Even in the level, giving exceptions to incomplete levels, I saw nothing about story.

Call me me a hater but unless it changed around almost completely this is a cheap cash in at full price.

I would assume that would be an earlier build, but SDCC was only a month ago and they couldn't have made that much headway since then. And if that's the build they decided to release as a public display...yeesh. It sounds like the Legend of Korra game all over again, but at $60.

by **YoungPrime** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:51 pm

ShinkenPrime wrote:I played a level at comic con. I went from excited and will buy it to when it's on a severe sale. Combat was bland and repetative. Just simple button mashing. Controls are clunky. Transforming and controlling vehicle mode was not as good as I hoped. Shooting was bad and limited in terms of ammo. Game was too easy. I should not be beating devastator on my first try without even taking serious damage. And story? Even in the level, giving exceptions to incomplete levels, I saw nothing about story.

Call me me a hater but unless it changed around almost completely this is a cheap cash in at full price.

So it plays the way it looks....

This could've easily been part 3 to the WFC series but instead they went cheap using the G1 theme as an excuse for a button mashing cash grab that's clearly half the budget of anything desirable.

Hate to say I told yall so!

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:41 pm

YoungPrime wrote:This could've easily been part 3 to the WFC series but instead they went cheap using the G1 theme as an excuse for a button mashing cash grab that's clearly half the budget of anything desirable.

Talking of the idea of doing a threequel to WFC I honestly don't know what story could be done for such a game that the general public would want to play. The official storyline that WFC and FOC were based on does continue after the Ark and Nemesis leave Cybertron (whcih we saw at the end of FOC), but the continuing story shifts the setting into outer space, with the Ark first going to Velocitron, then to Junkion, then to Aquatron, and then to who knows where else. Taking the story away from Cybertron kinda negates the whole "blank blank Cybertron" thing the first two titles had going for them. Sure, there were still some activities happening on Cybertron during that time, but with nearly all the major characters off-planet at the time, I'm not too sure if the general public would really want to play a Transformers game that didn't have Optimus Prime, Megatron, Starscream, Bumblebee, Jazz, Ironhide, Soundwave, Ratchet, etc. in it. The only characters that could be put into this game would be the likes of Shockwave, Alpha Trion, the Wreckers, the Constructicons, the Combaticons, Omega Supreme, the Dinobots, the Sharkticons (they attack Cybertron at one point), and Prime Smokescreen (since he was with Alpha Trion when the Hall of Records was finally taken).

by **Fenrir Prime** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:17 pm

Everybody keeps saying it's a $60 game, but it's not. It's $50 according to amazon, and that's the base price not a sale. I know it's still expensive but I figured people should know.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:12 pm

YoungPrime wrote:
ShinkenPrime wrote:I played a level at comic con. I went from excited and will buy it to when it's on a severe sale. Combat was bland and repetative. Just simple button mashing. Controls are clunky. Transforming and controlling vehicle mode was not as good as I hoped. Shooting was bad and limited in terms of ammo. Game was too easy. I should not be beating devastator on my first try without even taking serious damage. And story? Even in the level, giving exceptions to incomplete levels, I saw nothing about story.

Call me me a hater but unless it changed around almost completely this is a cheap cash in at full price.

So it plays the way it looks....

This could've easily been part 3 to the WFC series but instead they went cheap using the G1 theme as an excuse for a button mashing cash grab that's clearly half the budget of anything desirable.

Hate to say I told yall so!

If you want a great hack'n'slash that really rewards discerning a games mechanics, check out Dynasty Warriors 8 XL

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:16 pm

Fenrir Prime wrote:Everybody keeps saying it's a $60 game, but it's not. It's $50 according to amazon, and that's the base price not a sale. I know it's still expensive but I figured people should know.

That's still too much. Knocking $10 off doesn't mean much when the game still costs double what it should.

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 12:56 am

Shadowman wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
YoungPrime wrote:Sigh....... This will get an average 6/10, 3/5 rating at best! It's like all of the backgrounds are the same and the button mashing gets old quick!

I'm as G1 as they come but this game isn't shaping up to be much.

Oh shadup. This is more story based.

First off, telling people to shut up when they don't agree with you: Cute!

Just to nitpick here...he didn't actually use the words....shut up! he used one word.....shadup!(granted it's meaning could be the same).

& secondly....he wasn't telling PEOPLE(plural), he was telling YOU! A person(singular).

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:06 am

Stuartmaximus wrote:
Shadowman wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
YoungPrime wrote:Sigh....... This will get an average 6/10, 3/5 rating at best! It's like all of the backgrounds are the same and the button mashing gets old quick!

I'm as G1 as they come but this game isn't shaping up to be much.

Oh shadup. This is more story based.

First off, telling people to shut up when they don't agree with you: Cute!

Just to nitpick here...he didn't actually use the words....shut up! he used one word.....shadup!(granted it's meaning could be the same).

Spelling the term differently does not change the fact that it's the same term.

Stuartmaximus wrote:& secondly....he wasn't telling PEOPLE(plural), he was telling YOU! A person(singular).

No, he wasn't. Try paying attention.

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:15 am

Shadowman wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:
Shadowman wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
YoungPrime wrote:Sigh....... This will get an average 6/10, 3/5 rating at best! It's like all of the backgrounds are the same and the button mashing gets old quick!

I'm as G1 as they come but this game isn't shaping up to be much.

Oh shadup. This is more story based.

First off, telling people to shut up when they don't agree with you: Cute!

Just to nitpick here...he didn't actually use the words....shut up! he used one word.....shadup!(granted it's meaning could be the same).

Spelling the term differently does not change the fact that it's the same term.

Stuartmaximus wrote:& secondly....he wasn't telling PEOPLE(plural), he was telling YOU! A person(singular).

No, he wasn't. Try paying attention.

Ok....it was YoungPrime, you got me on that one, but still not on the fact that he was addressing ONE person! not many.

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:33 am

Stuartmaximus wrote:Ok....it was YoungPrime, you got me on that one, but still not on the fact that he was addressing ONE person! not many.

It doesn't change my point that he was telling someone to shut up (Regardless if you're going to be totally inane and split hairs over the spelling) simply for having a different opinion.

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:42 am

Shadowman wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:Ok....it was YoungPrime, you got me on that one, but still not on the fact that he was addressing ONE person! not many.

It doesn't change my point that he was telling someone to shut up (Regardless if you're going to be totally inane and split hairs over the spelling) simply for having a different opinion.

Aye I s'pose so, anyhow! why are we interjecting in a conversation between SillySpringer & YoungPrime? surely it's up to YoungPrime to tell him the error of his ways. Not yours!

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:32 am

Transformers: Devastation! It's a game! For Transformers! Yeah.

by **YoungPrime** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 11:05 am

Stuartmaximus wrote:
Shadowman wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:
Shadowman wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
YoungPrime wrote:Sigh....... This will get an average 6/10, 3/5 rating at best! It's like all of the backgrounds are the same and the button mashing gets old quick!

I'm as G1 as they come but this game isn't shaping up to be much.

Oh shadup. This is more story based.

First off, telling people to shut up when they don't agree with you: Cute!

Just to nitpick here...he didn't actually use the words....shut up! he used one word.....shadup!(granted it's meaning could be the same).

Spelling the term differently does not change the fact that it's the same term.

Stuartmaximus wrote:& secondly....he wasn't telling PEOPLE(plural), he was telling YOU! A person(singular).

No, he wasn't. Try paying attention.

Ok....it was YoungPrime, you got me on that one, but still not on the fact that he was addressing ONE person! not many.

You should read before you type!

SillySpringer wrote:First of all I tell everyone to shadup, cuz that's my joking style, so shadup.
Second, that's what they said in an interview. As long as it's not just "go defeat the bad guys" and nothing else, I'm okay with it. If it's more story based, it's okay to me if most of the backgrounds are similar.

You're welcome....