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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:william-james88 wrote:I'll admit while I am good with most designs, I was not a fan of this take on frenzy/rumble, aesthetics wise
I actually really liked that design, it was different, but it was really neat and I liked the head sculpt
Dr. Caelus wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:william-james88 wrote:I'll admit while I am good with most designs, I was not a fan of this take on frenzy/rumble, aesthetics wise
I actually really liked that design, it was different, but it was really neat and I liked the head sculpt
I thought the design was enough of a departure I would have liked for her to be a new character altogether. That's trivial within the show, but new characters always stand a chance of making the jump beyond their introductory line to show up again in a place like the Legacy Line. Adding a new cassette, after all these years, would be good, and she would have been fun to eventually see running around with Rumble and Feenzy.
All in all, though, the thing I actually complained to my wife about was Ravage being blue.
MaximalNui wrote:Did you mention they're living robots with human personalities who up until now were exclusively binary-coded? Or just that they were a robot?
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:However, in Mondas' words: "Generally most people don't see robots as being coded, at all. Just as a robot. An "it", a thing, a construct.
Dr. Caelus wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:However, in Mondas' words: "Generally most people don't see robots as being coded, at all. Just as a robot. An "it", a thing, a construct.
I don't buy that. Even if that were true, there's an enormous difference between a Roomba and C-3P0.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:If someone nonbinary doesn't think a robot (at any level of sophistication) is good representation to them, in lieu of a human (animated or not), they are right to make that call.
Dr. Caelus wrote: Also, didn't this conversation start with you complaining about making Nightshade nonbinary was humanizing them too much? And now you're arguing that Nightshade shouldn't have been nonbinary because they can't be humanized enough?
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
For the record, I enjoyed the one episode I've seen more than any point in Siege.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Just as someone mentioned early, there is a world of difference between the designs of Elita-1,Arcee etc and the aesthetic basis for Blackarachnia.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:However, in Mondas' words: "Generally most people don't see robots as being coded, at all. Just as a robot. An "it", a thing, a construct.
I don't buy that. Even if that were true, there's an enormous difference between a Roomba and C-3P0.
Between a real life robot and a fictional one, sure. Real world robots (even the fancy Boston Dynamics ones) are thought of as machines. Which is something subjectively projected onto fictional ones too. The Droid Army in Star Wars Episode 1 or un-skinned Terminators similarly can be viewed as such.
That interpretation can also be dictated by real life experience and value judgements. To paraphrase the old saying: The difference between people who walk the walk (Nonbinary, LGBT+ etc), instead of talk the talk (Social Media virtue signalling). If someone nonbinary doesn't think a robot (at any level of sophistication) is good representation to them, in lieu of a human (animated or not), they are right to make that call.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Burn wrote:I look at Earthspark not as a sequel to G1, but a divergent timeline that was created when the Space Bridge was destroyed.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Optimus does also note that the war went on for decades on Earth, so it's not like it ended immediately after they got there. As in, it's not like the events of "More Than Meets the Eye, Parts 1-3" happened, then "Transport to Oblivion" happened, and then the war just ended.
That G1-styled flashback was just animated for pure fan service. We see a photograph of how Megatron looked back during the war and he looks just like he does in the present, only with a Decepticon symbol on his chest instead of the G.H.O.S.T. insignia.
Dr. Caelus wrote:Burn wrote:I look at Earthspark not as a sequel to G1, but a divergent timeline that was created when the Space Bridge was destroyed.
I thought it was interesting that the timeline so explicitly diverges before that, actually.
Elita-1 accompanies Optimus Prime to Earth, and Bumblebee is left behind on Cybertron.
Burn wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:Burn wrote:I look at Earthspark not as a sequel to G1, but a divergent timeline that was created when the Space Bridge was destroyed.
I thought it was interesting that the timeline so explicitly diverges before that, actually.
Elita-1 accompanies Optimus Prime to Earth, and Bumblebee is left behind on Cybertron.
ah yes, I did forget that. The space bridge part stood out for me the most, hence why I went with that point of divergence. But obviously there was a point earlier in history, obviously before they left Cybertron, which would have caused a divergent timeline.
Which makes you wonder ... could Earthspark spin off it's own version of Beast Wars?
Second season? You mean we gotta wait after 16 more episodes of Season 1 before Grimlock finally shows up? I was hoping he'd show up when the second or even third batch of Season 1 episodes drop.Dr. Caelus wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Jawbreaker or Nightshade scan beast modes, since they're already technoorganic and we've already seen 5 bots with beast modes. Might tie into Grimlock dropping in in the second season, and Mandroid ratcheting up his upgrade plans.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Second season? You mean we gotta wait after 16 more episodes of Season 1 before Grimlock finally shows up? I was hoping he'd show up when the second or even third batch of Season 1 episodes drop.Dr. Caelus wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Jawbreaker or Nightshade scan beast modes, since they're already technoorganic and we've already seen 5 bots with beast modes. Might tie into Grimlock dropping in in the second season, and Mandroid ratcheting up his upgrade plans.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
ScottyP wrote:Bad stuff: Mandroid. He's the wish.com version of Giga and Mega. No amount of bolted on robot parts will make me take him as a serious threat
ScottyP wrote:Wheeljack also kind of sucked but I don't know why. He just did.
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