TaraTech wrote:Skywarp having the ability to teleport made me so happy. Has this happened since G1?
Mostly in the comics, as far as I can remember.
william-james88 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:First-Aid wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I didn't say I was upset. I've always found excessive humanising of Transformers creepy. Just as I found sexualising the designs of Transformers Very creepy.
So an alien identifying as "he" or "she" is an appropriate amount of humanizing, but an alien not identifying as a he or a she is an excessive amount of humanizing.
[Of course, all of this disregards the fact Nightshade isn' an alien to begon with.]
Humanizing in this case may be done, not by the bots, but by the humans for ease of communication. We're used to certain verbal cues with communication. The bots may simply have adopted it as an easier way to communicate.
I think Hasbro's official line is that Transformers instinctively adapt to their social environment, rapidly learning new languages and customs, and that includes the concept of identifying with another race's gender roles. They then bring those ideas back to Cybertron, where some of it gets passed around and adopted by those who never had direct contact with a gendered race.
Although, again, this isn't really relevant to Nightshade.
In the end, it's a cartoon. I'm still mad they are using "they" as a singular. IT'S PLURAL DAMNIT! MORE THAN ONE! LERN UR GRAMMER!!!
FYI, they isn't strictly plural, according to US grammar standards. You probably use it as a singular without even realizing it. Like when talking about a toy haul or a toy someone got. It's their toy, their haul, ect.
It's almost like the language evolves and adapts to reality and how people use it, and not the other way around.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:In closing, since this page progressed significantly while I was asleep. Also some were leaping to conclusions about what I was getting at.
I was talking to a nonbinary friend of mine (whom I jokingly nickname 'Mondas') not too long ago. That there was going to be a nonbinary character debuting in the new Transformers cartoon. Mondas was happy that there would be some representation, at the level of a child's cartoon. Which ideally will help to normalise the gender for that generation. Then I found out who the character was and relayed that. The exact quote was "Oh great, a robot? Not a human being ...FFS"
Did you mention they're living robots with human personalities who up until now were exclusively binary-coded? Or just that they were a robot?
Anyway, that's usually how this starts. First writers need to work loopholes and metaphors like alien/robot races to get past producers and moral guardians, and then when most of the audience is more comfortable with the concept they start using actual humans. It's how it happened with most of the other LGBTQ+ identities, it's how it'll happen with non-binaries too (it technically already happened with The Owl House).
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:You must remember that for a good portion of the fandom, episodes 1 and 2 are the only ones available, so if you can please extend a courtesy spoiler tag for details past those episodes, mostly for plot and some character related items.
Honestly, it's killing me not to talk about tbe Beast Machines influences seeded in the pilot and then built on on further towards the end of the season.
Technoorganics!
Bots that don't need energon!
Caves full of magic water!
Possible connections to the quintessons!
I agree on all of this, I didn't see it initially, but it is pretty in your face when you start to pay attention, and that's really neat
I actually only noticed the first point, but seeing everything else really strenghtens the connection.
I do hope Quintus himself shows up in the future.