phantom1592 wrote:Mkall wrote:There's very little about those two that are the same - peg, shoulders, legs and transformation scheme see to be it. That's a hell of a nice feat.
At what point is something NOT considered a redeco at this point?
Honest question. I see the term thrown around a lot...but I really don'the see much in common here. Granted I come from MOTU and Marvel where most new toys are straight repaints on the same body....
I believe the proper word is "retool", but the Combiner Wars figures are really stretching the term.
One term that recently came into being is "pretool", short for "pre-planned retool", basically a retool that's planned and sculpted in advance, resulting in two or three figures with the same base mold but different parts, allowing them to be released within a single year. That's the main advantage.
At first the parts changed were limited to the head and other minor parts, as seen within the 2010 line and its Reveal the Shield subline imprint, but as of Combiner Wars, whole sections can be switched out for different characters, with the Skydide/Air Raid pair as a prime example.
It's the pretooling that has allowed such a variety in figure designs using a limited amount of bases. I did some counting and found that only 8 basic designs are used (pending the release of Prowl) for the entire Deluxe range of 16 (18 if you include Quickslinger/Slingshot and Brake-Neck/Wildrider); the rest are derived from those bases. They are:
1. Firefly
2. Skydive
3. Alpha Bravo (though I suspect he's a "mix")
4. Drag Strip
5. Breakdown
6. Dead End
7. Offroad
8. Rook
Going by the trend of "2 vehicle shells and 3 heads per tooling" (as evidenced by Offroad and Dead End), one could potentially make 24 figures out of the 8 bases alone, more if one mixes and matches parts.
The resident Rewind... well, half of one
- Jelze Bunnycat =:3
Looking for:
- TR Furos (Hardhead's head) and Crashbash (lost him
)
- PotP Punch head
- TR Galvatron right arm (the gun one)
- CW Brake-Neck/UW Wildrider, CW Offroad
- TR Twinferno & Grotusque
- Greenlight, Lancer and PotP Elita-1 (plus repro Victorion hands and feet?)