The Energon Pub

[Autobot Roadburn]

I got these guys in too, I'm just waiting in hope Onslaught comes in soon before I ship them.

[Optimum Supreme]

Can anyone explain why the Prowl I just picked up has the manual printed on entirely different paper stock than any of the other CW figures I have (and I have a lot of them)? All the other manuals were typical glossy paper, Prowl's is a cheaper seeming non-glossy type. Not a big deal, it's just weird that his is different, even from Sunstreaker and Mirage that were from the same wave.

Mine's combiner thingy is also misassembled, with the part that connects the thumb/heel to the main part put in upside down, so it doesn't fold up quite right. If not for the stupid pins, it would be an easy fix.

[padfoo]

Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding

Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.

[william-james88]

Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding

Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.

Seems to be about the same size as the other components


Transformers G1 1986 Bruticus Gallery

[King Kuuga]

Can anyone explain why the Prowl I just picked up has the manual printed on entirely different paper stock than any of the other CW figures I have (and I have a lot of them)? All the other manuals were typical glossy paper, Prowl's is a cheaper seeming non-glossy type. Not a big deal, it's just weird that his is different, even from Sunstreaker and Mirage that were from the same wave.

My Sunstreaker came with flat paper instructions, I assumed it was standard for wave 4 (he's my only wave 4 purchase). Sounds from your comment like it's not, which is weirder.

Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding

Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.

Seems to be about the same size as the other components

http://static.seibertron.com/images/toys/files/03/r_bruticus025.jpg
Transformers G1 1986 Bruticus Gallery

Oh don't pretend you don't know what he means.

[chuckdawg1999]

Sighhhhhhhhh the one time I didn't pre-order something from BBTS

[Agamemnon]

Can anyone explain why the Prowl I just picked up has the manual printed on entirely different paper stock than any of the other CW figures I have (and I have a lot of them)? All the other manuals were typical glossy paper, Prowl's is a cheaper seeming non-glossy type. Not a big deal, it's just weird that his is different, even from Sunstreaker and Mirage that were from the same wave.

My Sunstreaker came with flat paper instructions, I assumed it was standard for wave 4 (he's my only wave 4 purchase). Sounds from your comment like it's not, which is weirder.

My second Motormaster (the one that came with Battle Core OP) came on the same dull paper, almost like it was photocopied. I thought it was weird too.

Sighhhhhhhhh the one time I didn't pre-order something from BBTS

I preordered Combaticons as soon as I got the email notification the preorder was available. I didn't get a notice of them being in stock either (even though I have in the past, most notably Leader Ultra Magnus). So, it must have been a really small shipment.

[Optimizzy]

I preordered mine from bbts. They should be here soon. Hope my brawl isn't plagued with looseness.

I didn't get onslaught. Did anyone preorder him or did he not come in yet? Honestly waiting on the running change.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding

Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.

Seems to be about the same size as the other components


Transformers G1 1986 Bruticus Gallery

If you start this up again Will....

[dragons]

Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding

Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.

New head would be nice look at figure

Thank you optibotimus fast forward articulation and transformation all deluxes in combiner wars have same exact articulation see one figure possibility in same series see them all

[william-james88]

If you start this up again Will....

I just couldnt resist.

But you know guys in all honesty, I do not understand why people need to bring up the idea of realism in a series where a sentient robot looks like this:



Or this



or this:



A space shuttle being the same size as a tank is not what is stopping this concept from being any more realistic.

And we joke that G1 throws scale out the window but its Beast Wars that makes alt mode scale something really silly.

[fenrir72]

Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding

Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.

There's supposed to be a military type Spaceshuttle that isn't the size of the default "Astrotrain" type. And if you follow the original show, Blastoff never served to transport the Combaticons. He just pulled the asteroid they were exiled to remember? Now if he was a mass shifter like Astrotrain, he would have had got his buddies in him.

So the oversized Blastoff argument does not hold water.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

If you start this up again Will....

I just couldnt resist.

But you know guys in all honesty, I do not understand why people need to bring up the idea of realism in a series where a sentient robot looks like this:
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I know you couldn't I don't even know why we try anymore.

[Segor]

I'll just add a custom face plate, that would do it for me

[Agamemnon]

I preordered mine from bbts. They should be here soon. Hope my brawl isn't plagued with looseness.

I didn't get onslaught. Did anyone preorder him or did he not come in yet? Honestly waiting on the running change.

I preordered Onslaught. No news on him yet. But, related to this, do we know when/how the running change will be released? Is the second version of Onslaught case mates with Sky Lynx?

Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding

Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.

There's supposed to be a military type Spaceshuttle that isn't the size of the default "Astrotrain" type. And if you follow the original show, Blastoff never served to transport the Combaticons. He just pulled the asteroid they were exiled to remember? Now if he was a mass shifter like Astrotrain, he would have had got his buddies in him.

So the oversized Blastoff argument does not hold water.

Yeah, I like to bring up this picture.

[Shuttershock]

Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding

Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.

There's supposed to be a military type Spaceshuttle that isn't the size of the default "Astrotrain" type. And if you follow the original show, Blastoff never served to transport the Combaticons. He just pulled the asteroid they were exiled to remember? Now if he was a mass shifter like Astrotrain, he would have had got his buddies in him.

So the oversized Blastoff argument does not hold water.

Well, there was that ONE time...



Then again, that scene also has all the Combaticons AND Bruticus in the same shot, so I guess we'll call it a wash.

Basically, it depends on how much you're willing to spend on a (rumored) shuttle, as opposed to the more widely available jet. I'll be happy with the domestic release.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding

Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.

There's supposed to be a military type Spaceshuttle that isn't the size of the default "Astrotrain" type. And if you follow the original show, Blastoff never served to transport the Combaticons. He just pulled the asteroid they were exiled to remember? Now if he was a mass shifter like Astrotrain, he would have had got his buddies in him.

So the oversized Blastoff argument does not hold water.

Well, there was that ONE time...



Then again, that scene also has all the Combaticons AND Bruticus in the same shot, so I guess we'll call it a wash.

Basically, it depends on how much you're willing to spend on a (rumored) shuttle, as opposed to the more widely available jet. I'll be happy with the domestic release.

If you look close enough, Bruticus is running to hop into Blastoff (who is the arm of said Bruticus)

[Optimizzy]

My only possible complaint with blast off is the head. But that's an easy third party fix (hint hint). To me I never understood my a Combaticon was a vehicle that was expressly built for research. He should always have been a jet in my opinion. After all Starscream built him from left over WW2 parts right? So...space shuttle doesn't really fit either. A jet doesn't fit with WW2 (unless it's the sweet Me-262) but that's better than a space shuttle.

That's all just personal preference. I'm curious as to what Takara is going to do. I'm guessing a massive retool to Alpha Bravo to make a space shuttle. I think that's cool.

I only wished Hasbro would have really jumped on the "unique" combiner idea and released these Takara limbs (maybe as new characters) so we had a variety of display options. Although I like Rook and Hasbros Blast-off, I'd like the option to also have Deluxe Groove and G1 Blast-off

[Cobotron]

Although I like Rook and Hasbros Blast-off, I'd like the option to also have Deluxe Groove and G1 Blast-off

I think you will. I feel pretty confident that Hasbro will do to Takara Groove and Blastoff, what they did with Brake-Neck and Quickslinger. Speculation of course, but it seems logical.

[Shuttershock]

Although I like Rook and Hasbros Blast-off, I'd like the option to also have Deluxe Groove and G1 Blast-off

I think you will. I feel pretty confident that Hasbro will do to Takara Groove and Blastoff, what they did with Brake-Neck and Quickslinger. Speculation of course, but it seems logical.

I had heard the rumor that one of the reasons deluxe Groove was out of Hasbro's hands was that it incorporated clear plastic, putting it out of the standard deluxe price point. Don't know if The true or how much clear plastic offsets the cost, just what I remember hearing.

[Cobotron]

Although I like Rook and Hasbros Blast-off, I'd like the option to also have Deluxe Groove and G1 Blast-off

I think you will. I feel pretty confident that Hasbro will do to Takara Groove and Blastoff, what they did with Brake-Neck and Quickslinger. Speculation of course, but it seems logical.

I had heard the rumor that one of the reasons deluxe Groove was out of Hasbro's hands was that it incorporated clear plastic, putting it out of the standard deluxe price point. Don't know if The true or how much clear plastic offsets the cost, just what I remember hearing.

Ugh. I could see that being the case.

[Insurgent]

And we joke that G1 throws scale out the window but its Beast Wars that makes alt mode scale something really silly.

Beast Wars used the robot mode scale and simply applied the animal alt mode to the size of the robot mode. Alt mode scale never came into play in the show, as they didn't have mass shifting, probably being too energy intensive to pull off and was lost in the Great Upgrade. As for G1... well, they were called Archaic Energon guzzlers, probably because in part they could mass shift.


Anyhoo, I never understood the demand for alt mode scale. One would think, with how most folks go on about how they display their collection in robot mode, folks would want robot mode scale.

[Shuttershock]

Although I like Rook and Hasbros Blast-off, I'd like the option to also have Deluxe Groove and G1 Blast-off

I think you will. I feel pretty confident that Hasbro will do to Takara Groove and Blastoff, what they did with Brake-Neck and Quickslinger. Speculation of course, but it seems logical.

I had heard the rumor that one of the reasons deluxe Groove was out of Hasbro's hands was that it incorporated clear plastic, putting it out of the standard deluxe price point. Don't know if The true or how much clear plastic offsets the cost, just what I remember hearing.

Ugh. I could see that being the case.

Believe me, I hope that doesn't end up being the case. When this same year they distributed two exclusives through online retailers fairly successfully, I find it hard to believe that they could find a way to get these two out.

It'd be one thing if it was just a Japanese exclusive, but a group-only mall exclusive? THAT'S low.

[Optimizzy]

Although I like Rook and Hasbros Blast-off, I'd like the option to also have Deluxe Groove and G1 Blast-off

I think you will. I feel pretty confident that Hasbro will do to Takara Groove and Blastoff, what they did with Brake-Neck and Quickslinger. Speculation of course, but it seems logical.

I had heard the rumor that one of the reasons deluxe Groove was out of Hasbro's hands was that it incorporated clear plastic, putting it out of the standard deluxe price point. Don't know if The true or how much clear plastic offsets the cost, just what I remember hearing.

Ugh. I could see that being the case.

Believe me, I hope that doesn't end up being the case. When this same year they distributed two exclusives through online retailers fairly successfully, I find it hard to believe that they could find a way to get these two out.

It'd be one thing if it was just a Japanese exclusive, but a group-only mall exclusive? THAT'S low.

Id be fine for it to be painted opaque plastic. I'd prefer clear but whatever it takes to get the mold.

[Insurgent]

The review says it's a new gun, but it looks like the same flamethrower as Firefly/Slingshot to me. Anyone able to confirm if it's new or not? Can't see it clearly on this screen.