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News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Thu May 14, 2015 10:17 am

Hey guys, we may have our first tease for a new CW deluxe motorcycle mold:

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Thu May 14, 2015 10:26 am

william-james88 wrote:Hey guys, we may have our first tease for a new CW deluxe motorcycle mold:

Groove and Afterburner for the win! :DANCE:

by **gothsaurus** » Thu May 14, 2015 10:26 am

okay. That's fantastic. Between Hasbro and Takara, both G1 and modern fans ... and fans who are a slave to scale... all have been taken care of. That's amazing.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Thu May 14, 2015 10:31 am

gothsaurus wrote:okay. That's fantastic. Between Hasbro and Takara, both G1 and modern fans ... and fans who are a slave to scale... all have been taken care of. That's amazing.

Yeah it is. Those companies deserve a standing ovation.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Thu May 14, 2015 11:04 am

And with that, Maketoys gets none of shajaki's money. :DANCE:

by **RAcast** » Thu May 14, 2015 12:31 pm

OH YEAH! I can't wait to see this!

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Thu May 14, 2015 12:46 pm

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Thu May 14, 2015 1:43 pm

megatronus wrote:

Right there with you! ;)^

News Credits: 25 · by **Ironhidensh** » Thu May 14, 2015 1:58 pm

Agamemnon wrote:
megatronus wrote:

Right there with you!

It's a threesome.

:shock:

News Credits: 1 · by **RhA** » Thu May 14, 2015 2:52 pm

Ironhidensh wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:
megatronus wrote:

Right there with you!

It's a threesome.

With a monkey.

by **ThunderThruster** » Thu May 14, 2015 4:57 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Hey guys, we may have our first tease for a new CW deluxe motorcycle mold:

Groove and Afterburner for the win!

Unfortunately, I doubt takera have created a brand new mold, and looking at this silhouette that could just be legends groove attached to which ever limb bot being used as the leg.

I'd love to be wrong on this, but I just don't see Takera creating a brandnew mold just for this.

by **gothsaurus** » Thu May 14, 2015 5:03 pm

It looks like you can see the handlebars... plus the wheels are quite large. I'm pretty sure this is a new mold... which will probably be re-tooled for the Protectobots. (ie. Hasbro will find a use for the mold later.)

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Thu May 14, 2015 5:46 pm

ThunderThruster wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Hey guys, we may have our first tease for a new CW deluxe motorcycle mold:

Groove and Afterburner for the win!

Unfortunately, I doubt takera have created a brand new mold, and looking at this silhouette that could just be legends groove attached to which ever limb bot being used as the leg.

I'd love to be wrong on this, but I just don't see Takera creating a brandnew mold just for this.

My theory: It is a new mold, but a pre-planned one for Afterburner that has parts for Groove built in. It pays to be prepared for this line, especially for 2 years worth of figures.

As I explained in the Unite Warriors thread, it can't be Legends Class Groove, as Unite Warriors does not accomodate Legends Class figures like Powerglide and Blackjack: they're relocated to Transformers Adventure, with new identities at times.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Thu May 14, 2015 8:09 pm

ThunderThruster wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Hey guys, we may have our first tease for a new CW deluxe motorcycle mold:

Groove and Afterburner for the win!

Unfortunately, I doubt takera have created a brand new mold, and looking at this silhouette that could just be legends groove attached to which ever limb bot being used as the leg.

I'd love to be wrong on this, but I just don't see Takera creating a brandnew mold just for this.

Not a new mold but a retool. Look at Superion and Menasor as examples.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Thu May 14, 2015 8:39 pm

fenrir72 wrote:Not a new mold but a retool. Look at Superion and Menasor as examples.

Retool of who? If its not of a pre-existing figure, then it is a new mold.

by **RAcast** » Thu May 14, 2015 8:51 pm

I'm still guessing new mold. And it doesn't have to be a "new mold designed for Takara just for Groove," I'm sure it's a mold collaboratively designed for the CW line, because it's inevitably going to be Afterburner for the Computron that we already know (from rumor, yes, but those rumors have pretty much been spot on every time) Hasbro is doing.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Thu May 14, 2015 9:24 pm

william-james88 wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Not a new mold but a retool. Look at Superion and Menasor as examples.

Retool of who? If its not of a pre-existing figure, then it is a new mold.

A pre-existing/ soon to be released figure. Again, I present the Superion/Menasor/Defensor example. A-B for Blades. Wildrider from an already existing Stuntron. That Afternurner fig that was mentioned. TT would probably follow the A-B route.Makes good business sense. You cater to japanese fanwank at the same time max out the investment in R&D on the mold in particular.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Thu May 14, 2015 9:29 pm

fenrir72 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Not a new mold but a retool. Look at Superion and Menasor as examples.

Retool of who? If its not of a pre-existing figure, then it is a new mold.

A pre-existing/ soon to be released figure. Again, I present the Superion/Menasor/Defensor example. A-B for Blades. Wildrider from an already existing Stuntron. That Afternurner fig that was mentioned. TT would probably follow the A-B route.Makes good business sense. You cater to japanese fanwank at the same time max out the investment in R&D on the mold in particular.

We are simply arguing semantics. I am using the word new to mean it hasnt been released anywhere yet. So in this case, Takara's Guardian is featuring a new mold.

News Credits: 1 · by **Thadicon** » Thu May 14, 2015 9:40 pm

RAcast wrote:I'm still guessing new mold. And it doesn't have to be a "new mold designed for Takara just for Groove," I'm sure it's a mold collaboratively designed for the CW line, because it's inevitably going to be Afterburner for the Computron that we already know (from rumor, yes, but those rumors have pretty much been spot on every time) Hasbro is doing.

I am wondering if Hasbro handed the mold to Takara for the Unite line then Hasbro will release a deluxe class Groove maybe later on like they did with Brake-neck. Then the remold of Afterburner will follow.

News Credits: 3 · by **prjkt** » Thu May 14, 2015 9:41 pm

This has to be one of the first times Takara has shown off a mould before Hasbro, at least in the Classics-verse

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Thu May 14, 2015 9:49 pm

prjkt wrote:This has to be one of the first times Takara has shown off a mould before Hasbro, at least in the Classics-verse

Yeah, I cant think of a precedent, can anyone come up with one?

Also Thadicon, the molds belong to both companies since Takara is responsible for all the engineering behind it.

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Thu May 14, 2015 9:58 pm

william-james88 wrote:
prjkt wrote:This has to be one of the first times Takara has shown off a mould before Hasbro, at least in the Classics-verse

Yeah, I cant think of a precedent, can anyone come up with one?

Also Thadicon, the molds belong to both companies since Takara is responsible for all the engineering behind it.

Huh? It's a partnership... I'm fairly confident Hasbro is responsible for Combiner Wars designs.

Could be wrong, though.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Thu May 14, 2015 10:19 pm

megatronus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
prjkt wrote:This has to be one of the first times Takara has shown off a mould before Hasbro, at least in the Classics-verse

Yeah, I cant think of a precedent, can anyone come up with one?

Also Thadicon, the molds belong to both companies since Takara is responsible for all the engineering behind it.

Huh? It's a partnership... I'm fairly confident Hasbro is responsible for Combiner Wars designs.

Could be wrong, though.

They most definitely are (although I think Devastator is Takara design, but just a hunch), I just meant that it being a partnership, Hasbro didnt need to "hand over" a mold to takara. It's theirs too.

News Credits: 1 · by **Thadicon** » Thu May 14, 2015 11:00 pm

william-james88 wrote:
megatronus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
prjkt wrote:This has to be one of the first times Takara has shown off a mould before Hasbro, at least in the Classics-verse

Yeah, I cant think of a precedent, can anyone come up with one?

Also Thadicon, the molds belong to both companies since Takara is responsible for all the engineering behind it.

Huh? It's a partnership... I'm fairly confident Hasbro is responsible for Combiner Wars designs.

Could be wrong, though.

They most definitely are (although I think Devastator is Takara design, but just a hunch), I just meant that it being a partnership, Hasbro didnt need to "hand over" a mold to takara. It's theirs too.

Sorry guys I didn't mean to start anything. I was just thinking along the lines of "you guys release it with the unite line and we will release it after". I probably could have worded it better.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Fri May 15, 2015 1:38 am

william-james88 wrote:
megatronus wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
prjkt wrote:This has to be one of the first times Takara has shown off a mould before Hasbro, at least in the Classics-verse

Yeah, I cant think of a precedent, can anyone come up with one?

Also Thadicon, the molds belong to both companies since Takara is responsible for all the engineering behind it.

Huh? It's a partnership... I'm fairly confident Hasbro is responsible for Combiner Wars designs.

Could be wrong, though.

They most definitely are (although I think Devastator is Takara design, but just a hunch), I just meant that it being a partnership, Hasbro didnt need to "hand over" a mold to takara. It's theirs too.

They're a two way relationship. henkei for example had designs done by the American side (Optimus, Hound, Mirage, Seekers). Sometimes its the Takara Tomy team. And if we go further back, DonFig's sketches served as the basis of MP-01 but was engineered by the guy responsible for MP-05 and Starsaber.