Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Convoy » Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:33 pm

Eh... I feel both Megatrons lost out by sharing the same mold. More so than Motormaster/Prime.
I don't see what's wrong with Menasor (yet), besides Wildrider being replaced by a truck named Offroad and the Menasor horns.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Syn_13 » Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:37 pm

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Rated X wrote:Wow I dont think there is any saving menasor. Perfect Effect managed to save Superion but I dont expect them to pull rabbits out of their ass with menasor. That megatron looks horrible. The armada version looks better but the scale throws me off a bit. I might pick him up on clearance.


Yeah Menasors pretty awful, the proportions are all over the place! Cannot understand how they can get Superion so right and Menasor so wrong. Still money saved for Devy. Not feeling Megs at all, too big for a start. Really is a mixed bag this line.


Completely agree. Can't stand the bulky wide chest with a car stuck bang in the middle of it. Looks bloody stupid. His head sculpt is awful too. The more I look at it the more I'm put off until a Third Party can attempt to salvage it. Also, when I was thinking about getting him I was planning to have Dead End and Breakdown the other way around, how they should be. It looks like you can do this with Breakdown, but Dead End has this bit of kibble that looks like it'll obstruct that. Badly designed if that's the case.

Individually they don't look bad, but Menasor is a bit of a car crash.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Samsonator » Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:38 pm

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Without mini-con capture claws, or a shiv concealed in his hand, that Armada Megatron does nothing for me, the G1 Megs still looks stiff and undynamic, but I don't understand everyone's problems with Mentor. Individually yhe Stunticons all look great, and I see no glaring issues with the combined mode. Am I missing something?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby munkimus prime » Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:12 pm

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So lets see

Motor Master - Sword
Dragstrip - Sword
Breakdown - Sword
Offroad - Axe
Deadend - Exhaust Pipe :???:

Maybe it's because he's a such a Pessimist he knows a sword won't work on the Autobots anyway so he's not even trying to fight.

I actually kind of like Menasor. He's not perfect but I still quite like him. I will wait for in hand pics of the Megatrons.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Tranzilla » Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:22 pm

Samsonator wrote:Without mini-con capture claws, or a shiv concealed in his hand, that Armada Megatron does nothing for me, the G1 Megs still looks stiff and undynamic, but I don't understand everyone's problems with Mentor. Individually yhe Stunticons all look great, and I see no glaring issues with the combined mode. Am I missing something?


I wish the chest vehicles could transform in a way where the legs come up the sides of the hood to make a more uniform look similarly to Thundercracker. Just looks off. Otherwise, I still like the concept and am hoping for some Abominus, Dinoking/Monstructor, Piranacon, and/or Predaking love.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Peridot » Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:24 pm

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munkimus prime wrote:So lets see

Motor Master - Sword
Dragstrip - Sword
Breakdown - Sword
Offroad - Axe
Deadend - Exhaust Pipe :???:

Maybe it's because he's a such a Pessimist he knows a sword won't work on the Autobots anyway so he's not even trying to fight.

I actually kind of like Menasor. He's not perfect but I still quite like him. I will wait for in hand pics of the Megatrons.

I always saw the Stunticons as brutish thugs. An exhaust pipe is pretty fitting, as far as bludgeoning objects go.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:58 pm

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Delta Magnus wrote:What I'd like to see someone like Perfect Effect do is an add-on kit that works as a trailer for Motormaster, becomes a "repair bay" when he's in robot mode (ala the vintage toy) and splits apart into add-ons for the combined mode that bulks him up and improves his proportions (and gives him better hands and feet).
thats actually a reallt good idea! not sure if i personally care to upgrade hasbros menasor though, since i have FP's (but i do plan to still get hasbros).
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:27 pm

Oh no! I had not noticed those wheels ending up behind Megatron's head before. This really hurts the design.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Shuttershock » Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:53 pm

Am I the only one who thinks Blackjack's axe would work better as Menasor's sword hilt? I keep thinking it's supposed to work like that, but every pic has the axe as this (to me) awkward chest shield.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby prjkt » Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:06 pm

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All these guys look pretty awesome

Haven all of wave two on order from RK, just waiting on someone sellin G1 Megs on his own. I wonder if his treads can move up behind the head for an IDW pose the way the aw Armada version works...
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:11 pm

I am still not over this, Hasbro really tried to pull a fast one on me.

No back pack wheels here:

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Totally not the case here:

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:14 pm

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The treads on the back are probably meant to be lowered for Megatron and raised for Armada Megatron.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:21 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:The treads on the back are probably meant to be lowered for Megatron and raised for Armada Megatron.
i was also thinking that. i thinking its "optional kibble".
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:23 pm

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shajaki wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The treads on the back are probably meant to be lowered for Megatron and raised for Armada Megatron.
i was also thinking that. i thinking its "optional kibble".
Not to mention "functional kibble" (as in working tread in tank mode). :D
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:29 pm

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If you look at both pictures of Megatron, you'll see they're in exactly the same pose.

Did they just take a photo of one and photoshop the other?

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Okay slight difference, but geez ... not much.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby MightyMagnus78 » Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:41 pm

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The robot scale for this line is all over the shop. Making Megatron a leader class figure and not a voyager was idiotic IMO. Assuming he's about the same size as Generations Leader Jetfire, he isn't going to scale well with Prime at all, however the problem is then reversed once Prime combines to his 'Ultra Prime' mode.

Does Megs have the ability to combine with the deluxes like Prime?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:44 pm

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MightyMagnus78 wrote:The robot scale for this line is all over the shop. Making Megatron a leader class figure and not a voyager was idiotic IMO. Assuming he's about the same size as Generations Leader Jetfire, he isn't going to scale well with Prime at all, however the problem is then reversed once Prime combines to his 'Ultra Prime' mode.
What's wrong with Megatron being bigger than Optimus? Wouldn't he generally like being bigger than Optimus? He is the bad guy, after all. He's not one known for playing fair.

MightyMagnus78 wrote: however the problem is then reversed once Prime combines to his 'Ultra Prime' mode.
Huh, just like the original Armada Megatron and Armada Optimus toys. :lol:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Jan 02, 2015 8:46 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
MightyMagnus78 wrote: however the problem is then reversed once Prime combines to his 'Ultra Prime' mode.
Huh, just like the original Armada Megatron and Armada Optimus toys. :lol:


HA! That works so well for Armada Megatron then!

And I was always under the impression that Megs was bigger. Maybe not THAT much bigger (ala animated TF) but still bigger and more powerful.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby welcometothedarksyde » Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:38 pm

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:lol: They're trying so hard to make Megatron's legs look not skinny. Look at that moonwalking pose. If the G1 Megatron has that nice of a color scheme I might snatch him up though
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby padfoo » Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:58 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Oh no! I had not noticed those wheels ending up behind Megatron's head before. This really hurts the design.


They look like they fold down and tuck in!
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby padfoo » Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:13 pm

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Just picked up all 4 deluxes in Target for $11.99 I didn't even realize they were out! hey
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Convoy » Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:44 pm

MightyMagnus78 wrote:The robot scale for this line is all over the shop. Making Megatron a leader class figure and not a voyager was idiotic IMO. Assuming he's about the same size as Generations Leader Jetfire, he isn't going to scale well with Prime at all, however the problem is then reversed once Prime combines to his 'Ultra Prime' mode.

Does Megs have the ability to combine with the deluxes like Prime?

What does scale mean when it comes to Transformers anyway? If Megatron can become the size of a human held pistol and also stand toe-to-toe with something the size of a semi I don't know why he can't be a little bigger.

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:23 pm

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Now THAT...looks like a grea way to play with Transformers.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby megatronus » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:23 pm

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MightyMagnus78 wrote:The robot scale for this line is all over the shop. Making Megatron a leader class figure and not a voyager was idiotic IMO. Assuming he's about the same size as Generations Leader Jetfire, he isn't going to scale well with Prime at all, however the problem is then reversed once Prime combines to his 'Ultra Prime' mode.
What's wrong with Megatron being bigger than Optimus? Wouldn't he generally like being bigger than Optimus? He is the bad guy, after all. He's not one known for playing fair.

This is a G1-style Megatron. Since when is that Megatron bigger than Prime by the same margin a leader bot is bigger than a voyager?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby YRQRM0 » Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:31 am

I'll get Armada Megatron for sure, though I hate how inaccurate he is. I would have much preferred a voyager/deluxe Megatron to scale with most existing Armada figures (namely the amazing figure that is deluxe Armada Optimus), especially since they just released a deluxe Armada screamer.
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