Optimum Supreme wrote:Predaking should have significant height over Devastator if done right. It'd be expensive as [poop] but Razorclaw as a leader, the rest as voyagers (or bring back ultra and make them that). Not mini voyagers like most of the constructicons, either, (honestly they're somwhere between deluxes and voyagers except Long Haul)
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Kurona wrote:I would much prefer Predaking to be a voyager and four deluxes. So much more playability that way.
This is how I imagine my Predaking
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Getting back to toys that already exist, I've had Motormaster for a few days now and am enjoying him a good bit. Haven't had a chance to try him as a torso yet because I don't own any CW limbs yet. But I'm liking the mold overall, and I definitely want Combiner Wars Optimus Prime now for the sake of having a decent Voyager G1 Optimus (as opposed to the miserable failure that is the Classics Optimus Prime mold) or failing that another Motormaster to kitbash into Optimus (either way would involve kitbashing because I'd want to mod Optimus to work more like the G1 toy transformation-wise, complete with seats in the cab)
nycPrime wrote:Forgive my ignorance but why is the red optimus so highly sought after?
nycPrime wrote:Forgive my ignorance but why is the red optimus so highly sought after?
Insurgent wrote:Also, a 3rd party kit came out to turn him into a full on IDW pre Combiner Wars Optimus. So collectors are after him for that reason too.
Kurona wrote:Insurgent wrote:Also, a 3rd party kit came out to turn him into a full on IDW pre Combiner Wars Optimus. So collectors are after him for that reason too.
Two IDW conversion kits, even! Insane that two separate companies caught onto the same idea and made him the same size.
Optimus in IDW still has his pre-CW design btw - the CW crossover didn't change any of that. It's especially more noticeable in the fact Ironhide still has his WfC body and Sunstreaker still has his Universe body. Only the Combaticons, Stunticons and Constructicons got changed it seems.
Insurgent wrote:Kurona wrote:Insurgent wrote:Also, a 3rd party kit came out to turn him into a full on IDW pre Combiner Wars Optimus. So collectors are after him for that reason too.
Two IDW conversion kits, even! Insane that two separate companies caught onto the same idea and made him the same size.
Optimus in IDW still has his pre-CW design btw - the CW crossover didn't change any of that. It's especially more noticeable in the fact Ironhide still has his WfC body and Sunstreaker still has his Universe body. Only the Combaticons, Stunticons and Constructicons got changed it seems.
Is he? Huh. I knew he wasn't in a combiner wars body, but I thought he had changed a bit, gone a bit more G1. Lost the shoulder panels and whatnot, making himself a bit more clean. Guess it was just the artist change. Or my faulty memory.
I'll go with my memory.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Got Silverbolt in today. His undercarriage is even worse than the original toy's thanks to the insistence on integrated combiner kibble, and his torso mode is upside-down compared to the original (going to see if I can kitbash him to change all that plus give him the base mode and get rid of the stupid mouthplate from the cartoon character model that only exists because the artists were evidently working from photos of the Aerialbots, should be an interesting challenge). On the plus side, those 5mm ports in the arms mean that the G2-themed redeco is perfectly capable of mounting the real G2 Silverbolt's launchers.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Got Silverbolt in today. His undercarriage is even worse than the original toy's thanks to the insistence on integrated combiner kibble,
TF-fan kev777 wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Got Silverbolt in today. His undercarriage is even worse than the original toy's thanks to the insistence on integrated combiner kibble, and his torso mode is upside-down compared to the original (going to see if I can kitbash him to change all that plus give him the base mode and get rid of the stupid mouthplate from the cartoon character model that only exists because the artists were evidently working from photos of the Aerialbots, should be an interesting challenge). On the plus side, those 5mm ports in the arms mean that the G2-themed redeco is perfectly capable of mounting the real G2 Silverbolt's launchers.
Careful on any mods you make to the combiner head. There is a known flaw in the mold that eventually leads to breakage on the neck plate for the Superion head. I believe this was only present on the version released in wave 1 (and the G2 box set) and may have been corrected in the re-release from the later waves. (FYI - The issue may also apply to Cyclonus and Shattorshot as well).
william-james88 wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Got Silverbolt in today. His undercarriage is even worse than the original toy's thanks to the insistence on integrated combiner kibble,
tell me about it!
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... oys/38374/
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:william-james88 wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Got Silverbolt in today. His undercarriage is even worse than the original toy's thanks to the insistence on integrated combiner kibble,
tell me about it!
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... oys/38374/
I already did: viewtopic.php?t=109314&p=1886754#p1886754
TF-fan kev777 wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Getting back to toys that already exist, I've had Motormaster for a few days now and am enjoying him a good bit. Haven't had a chance to try him as a torso yet because I don't own any CW limbs yet. But I'm liking the mold overall, and I definitely want Combiner Wars Optimus Prime now for the sake of having a decent Voyager G1 Optimus (as opposed to the miserable failure that is the Classics Optimus Prime mold) or failing that another Motormaster to kitbash into Optimus (either way would involve kitbashing because I'd want to mod Optimus to work more like the G1 toy transformation-wise, complete with seats in the cab)
Good luck finding a red CW Optimus Prime. He was only released in the first wave and then got a slight retool into the white Battle Core OP. I believe he is the most expensive to find on eBay of the CW voyagers, aside from possibly Sky Lynx.
As for your kit-bashing plans, that would have to be one hell of a kitbash. The front of the cab portion of the truck mode becomes his shoulders with the real windows facing backward in robot mode and the fake chest windows front and center.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Getting back to toys that already exist, I've had Motormaster for a few days now and am enjoying him a good bit. Haven't had a chance to try him as a torso yet because I don't own any CW limbs yet. But I'm liking the mold overall, and I definitely want Combiner Wars Optimus Prime now for the sake of having a decent Voyager G1 Optimus (as opposed to the miserable failure that is the Classics Optimus Prime mold) or failing that another Motormaster to kitbash into Optimus (either way would involve kitbashing because I'd want to mod Optimus to work more like the G1 toy transformation-wise, complete with seats in the cab)
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:No, I'm referring to the Voyager one. I consider him a failure because despite being a Voyager, he's only a head taller than than the 1984 toy - an insufficient boost in comparison to the CHUG Autobot cars. At the same time, he's too big and too modernized in his altmode to fit in with the G1 toys (unlike the Classics Seeker mold).
Kurona wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:No, I'm referring to the Voyager one. I consider him a failure because despite being a Voyager, he's only a head taller than than the 1984 toy - an insufficient boost in comparison to the CHUG Autobot cars. At the same time, he's too big and too modernized in his altmode to fit in with the G1 toys (unlike the Classics Seeker mold).
I don't think it's a failure when that's not what the toy set out to do. It simply set out to be a modern update to the character, and aside from a few flaws - egregious door kibble, could do with a tad more articulation - it done it very well. It's an excellent figure and I see it in the same light as something like G2 Laser Prime; a new badass body the Autobot Leader went into when **** gets serious, yo.
I would like a Voyager Optimus that is basically the G1 design as it is one of the most iconic in the franchise's history, but there's nothing wrong with the Classics Voyager. I think it's important to judge something by its own merits rather than it not being what one personally wanted. I want a MTMTE-accurate Rodimus and Chromedome, but that doesn't mean the Titans Return deluxes are bad toys in the slightest, nor that "they don't have the MTMTE designs" is a valid criticism.
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