The Energon Pub

[ZeroWolf]

I still want to know what the menasor mold was referencing. I give the advantage to the prime mold though for the Energon reference though I wish it was painted

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I still want to know what the menasor mold was referencing. I give the advantage to the prime mold though for the Energon reference though I wish it was painted

Chances are the designers were going for a slight AoE Galvatron homage.

[Nemesis Maximo]

I still want to know what the menasor mold was referencing. I give the advantage to the prime mold though for the Energon reference though I wish it was painted

Chances are the designers were going for a slight AoE Galvatron homage.

I think it's more likely supposed to be Menaso's own spark chamber, like a perverted version of Prime's matrix case. Because that's what you'd see if you opened up a Transformer's chest.

[King Kuuga]

So, I was watching some video review of Third-Party combiners and the Combiner Wars guys in order to make some comparisons. My main focus was the Fansproject M3 (I think that's the name) and CW Menasor, which is probably my favorite so far.

I must admit, the quality and level of detail on the FP guy is amazing. And also it is very faithful to the G1 Menasor, which, for some people, is an instant buy. For me, these factors do justify the higher price.

However, there were some things that didn't quite make it to me. One of them is the fact that the leg components are simply attached to the existing legs, made from separate parts that were from the torso guy. I like that combiners actually have their limbs made from the components, and not them as armor over existing limbs. Also the number of "partsforming" that goes into the torso...

However, my biggest gripe was the time. It took most reviews so long to put it all together, and so many small parts, and unnecessary movements. It just seemed that the toy was a bit over engineered.

Now, looking as a collector who likes to show my collection to my friends and family. I'd much prefer the Hasbro Menasor, which I can put together and transform the individual bots in a few minutes and a few easy movements; than a ROTF Prime level bot for each limb of the combiner, if only losing a little bit more articulation and more detail.

This is my opinion, of course, and I don't see anything wrong with people that prefer 3P

That's essentially my thought as well. The 3P stuff works well as novelty and display items. They look fantastic, they have great articulation, and they're engineered to perfection. But that makes them extremely complicated for their often small size. I've seen several people confess that they'd love to fiddle with their M3 more but they just don't want to take the time to disassemble him and transform all the individual parts. Meanwhile, the Hasbro toys are toys first and foremost. They've got decent articulation, simple but effective transformations, and they're affordable. Plus they can make either an arm or a leg and they can attach to other torso robots freely, which is something that most of the 3P combiners can't boast. Hasbro's products are toys for children to play with and have fun, which is what Transformers has always been, while the 3P products are collector-oriented. I don't mind people that like 3P output, but I do have a problem with people that claim Hasbro is terrible and that they should just hire all the engineers and designers that work at the third party companies, because that kind of attitude completely misses the point of what Transformers are supposed to be and who they're for.

[Cobotron]

I still want to know what the menasor mold was referencing. I give the advantage to the prime mold though for the Energon reference though I wish it was painted

Chances are the designers were going for a slight AoE Galvatron homage.

I think it's more likely supposed to be Menaso's own spark chamber, like a perverted version of Prime's matrix case. Because that's what you'd see if you opened up a Transformer's chest.

I agree that Prime's is a nod to energon, and Menasor's does have an AOE Galv vibe, but I'm gonna just chalk it up to artistic license. Menasor's sculpt is much more menacing, evil, and twisted looking than Prime's, for sure.

Nemesis Maxi - I look forward to seeing your paint job!

[shajaki]

Hey! Has anyone noticed how sweet the sculpted detail inside Motormaster's chest is?

...and how kinda not sweet it is inside of Prime's?

It's cool though that they went through trouble to sculpt those little differences into the two. Can't wait to get Motormaster in my hands so I can pick out all the other differences in the retool.

I getcha. Before we had MM to compare with, I wasn't so much complaining about Prime's chest as I was being hopeful towards Takara's eventual release. Prime's Legends-less chest SCREAMS for paint apps, and would look a million times better if those fine points were picked out.

Motormaster on the other hand, looks OK in the solid grey. Even though I also look forward to his painted up Takara counterpart, the Hasbro one is just fine. It probably helps MM that one of his primary colors is grey, so that chest piece doesn't stick out like Prime's does.

[Cobotron]

I getcha. Before we had MM to compare with, I wasn't so much complaining about Prime's chest as I was being hopeful towards Takara's eventual release. Prime's Legends-less chest SCREAMS for paint apps, and would look a million times better if those fine points were picked out.

Motormaster on the other hand, looks OK in the solid grey. Even though I also look forward to his painted up Takara counterpart, the Hasbro one is just fine. It probably helps MM that one of his primary colors is grey, so that chest piece doesn't stick out like Prime's does.

Ya know, these look really nice though.
http://reprolabels.com/Classics/cw-optimus.php#

[shajaki]

I getcha. Before we had MM to compare with, I wasn't so much complaining about Prime's chest as I was being hopeful towards Takara's eventual release. Prime's Legends-less chest SCREAMS for paint apps, and would look a million times better if those fine points were picked out.

Motormaster on the other hand, looks OK in the solid grey. Even though I also look forward to his painted up Takara counterpart, the Hasbro one is just fine. It probably helps MM that one of his primary colors is grey, so that chest piece doesn't stick out like Prime's does.

Ya know, these look really nice though.
http://reprolabels.com/Classics/cw-optimus.php#

Daaaaaammmmmnnnn.... I'm NOT a fan of stickers. But I have bought Repro's in the past and feel their quality is top notch. And that set fixes every issue with CW OP. If Takara's version has unsubstantial differences, it is so bought. Thanks Cobro

[Cobotron]

I getcha. Before we had MM to compare with, I wasn't so much complaining about Prime's chest as I was being hopeful towards Takara's eventual release. Prime's Legends-less chest SCREAMS for paint apps, and would look a million times better if those fine points were picked out.

Motormaster on the other hand, looks OK in the solid grey. Even though I also look forward to his painted up Takara counterpart, the Hasbro one is just fine. It probably helps MM that one of his primary colors is grey, so that chest piece doesn't stick out like Prime's does.

Ya know, these look really nice though.
http://reprolabels.com/Classics/cw-optimus.php#

Daaaaaammmmmnnnn.... I'm NOT a fan of stickers. But I have bought Repro's in the past and feel their quality is top notch. And that set fixes every issue with CW OP. If Takara's version has unsubstantial differences, it is so bought. Thanks Cobro

Ya! the stickers for truck mode are just SMASHING. I like that they fix the thing that bugs me the most. The grey side window bits.

[mtma]

That's essentially my thought as well. The 3P stuff works well as novelty and display items. They look fantastic, they have great articulation, and they're engineered to perfection. But that makes them extremely complicated for their often small size. I've seen several people confess that they'd love to fiddle with their M3 more but they just don't want to take the time to disassemble him and transform all the individual parts. Meanwhile, the Hasbro toys are toys first and foremost. They've got decent articulation, simple but effective transformations, and they're affordable. Plus they can make either an arm or a leg and they can attach to other torso robots freely, which is something that most of the 3P combiners can't boast. Hasbro's products are toys for children to play with and have fun, which is what Transformers has always been, while the 3P products are collector-oriented. I don't mind people that like 3P output, but I do have a problem with people that claim Hasbro is terrible and that they should just hire all the engineers and designers that work at the third party companies, because that kind of attitude completely misses the point of what Transformers are supposed to be and who they're for.

I can understand the "Hasbro is Terrible" attitude, even if I don't agree with it. They're toys, and Has does the fans well by directing the Generations line towards collectors.

When Hasbro announced Combiner Wars, with only a teaser for Superion, I was amazed and very excited, as was most of the fanbase. However, where they expected TFC's Uranos, I expected a good Superion with Hasbro's quality, that while not as great and detailed as 3P, has improved considerably over the years.

I think that they've learned a great lesson with FoC Bruticus, which I have and I like very much.

[Sabrblade]

Ultra Prime's inner chest needs to be smothered in silver chrome to enhance its homage to this:



Same goes for its outer chest to likewise enhance its own homage:

[albnok]

I still want to know what the menasor mold was referencing. I give the advantage to the prime mold though for the Energon reference though I wish it was painted

Chances are the designers were going for a slight AoE Galvatron homage.

Don't give them ideas! (I can only hope they leave it at Galvatronus.)

[RiddlerJ]

Has anyone noticed that on HasbroToyShop, the release date for the wave two figures has been pushed to the end of April.

What the hell? I would've held off and searched the stores if I knew it was going to take this long.

[Cobotron]

Has anyone noticed that on HasbroToyShop, the release date for the wave two figures has been pushed to the end of April.

What the hell? I would've held off and searched the stores if I knew it was going to take this long.

Now I'm doubting myself but when I ordered the ESD was 4/27. I just double checked. still the same. What was it before?

[RiddlerJ]

Has anyone noticed that on HasbroToyShop, the release date for the wave two figures has been pushed to the end of April.

What the hell? I would've held off and searched the stores if I knew it was going to take this long.

Now I'm doubting myself but when I ordered the ESD was 4/27. I just double checked. still the same. What was it before?

It was originally the end of March.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... hts/32340/

[Cobotron]

Has anyone noticed that on HasbroToyShop, the release date for the wave two figures has been pushed to the end of April.

What the hell? I would've held off and searched the stores if I knew it was going to take this long.

Now I'm doubting myself but when I ordered the ESD was 4/27. I just double checked. still the same. What was it before?

It was originally the end of March.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... hts/32340/

Huh? I wonder if that was a typo on the part of the news? The 27th part is the same.

I hear you on the "searching stores" thing. Thats why I didn't order MM. So I would still have some pray out there in the wild.
But hey, at least we got 20% off and free shipping.

[Nemesis Maximo]

Has anyone noticed that on HasbroToyShop, the release date for the wave two figures has been pushed to the end of April.

What the hell? I would've held off and searched the stores if I knew it was going to take this long.

Now I'm doubting myself but when I ordered the ESD was 4/27. I just double checked. still the same. What was it before?

It was originally the end of March.

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... hts/32340/

Huh? I wonder if that was a typo on the part of the news? The 27th part is the same.

I hear you on the "searching stores" thing. Thats why I didn't order MM. So I would still have some pray out there in the wild.
But hey, at least we got 20% off and free shipping.

That 20% is what's stopping me from cancelling my preorder from HTS if I see thm in stores before they ship. I too was under the impression that they would be shipping at the end of March, and my invoice still says that. I hope they do, because every day that Menasor stands on my shelf with Dragstip and Fireflight as legs, I want the rest of the stunticons more.

[SimianProphet]

I placed my order HasbroToyShop.com for Motormaster, the stuntacon limbs (plus AirRaid), Blackjack, and Megatron the minute they were all first available to order. Megatron Shipped right away, Motormaster and Blackjack a few days later, and the limbs have yet to ship.

My Order Status page still shows the limbs as having an expected shipping date of 3/27, so I'm gonna keep my fingers crossed that they can stick to that date!

[Tsutsukakushi]

Combiner Wars Superion and Menasor label sheets being given away in Singapore TRUs



Wish Toys R Us stores in America gave away free Transformers Promo items.

[LegendaryAntiHero]

Check out my review of Off Road, guys.

Also, please be sure to subscribe to my channel.

[prjkt]

Those stickers look kind of cool, and seem to be Hasbro approved... Possibly a Hasbro Asia thing

[fenrir72]

Combiner Wars Superion and Menasor label sheets being given away in Singapore TRUs



Wish Toys R Us stores in America gave away free Transformers Promo items.

Hey! That's nice of them! Very G1nesque!

[william-james88]

Check out my review of Off Road, guys.
Also, please be sure to subscribe to my channel.

Hey man, thanks for the review, but please post this one and the others you'll have in the site section we dedicate to reviews. It can be found here. That's where people go for reviews so you'll get your target audience right there. You can make a thread for all your stuff. Also, that will help keep the momentum and flow going of the conversation on this thread. Cheers!

[Tsutsukakushi]

Found these pics online. Figured i'd share them here.

Combiners Wars Skylynx.


Tidalwave can combine with the CW deluxes.

[ZeroWolf]

Now that's one I have to try, wait a minute if tidal wave works like that.. then...liobreaker can combine (in theory) with any CW torso