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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:40 pm

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:I'm loving this color scheme. I'm probably only going to pick up this guy, Skywarp, and Thundercracker in terms of this mold. The battle damage on Starscream kinda ruins that figure for me so I might just repurpose this figure as Armada Starscream's cybertronian mode

If the battle damage is the only issue, just wipe it off with some rubbing alcohol. I like the damage overall, but I might wipe it off of some figures after I add Selects characters like Smokescreen.


You can't wipe off the battle damage when it's paint on paint, though. Battle damage paint on bare plastic is no problem to remove, but when it's on top of already paint on detail, you're going to lose both paints in the process.

As you discovered with Sideswipe.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:13 pm

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ausbot wrote:Sunstorm or Acid storm please or even the periwinkle generic would be awesome.


If you are referring to the 'Rainmaker' trio, then the yellow one is not Sunstorm but rather called Nova Storm. Their trio consist of Acid Storm, Nova Storm and Ion Storm. People assume Sunstorm is considered a Rainmaker (he isn't, its Nova Storm who is the yellow one)....except when his Botcon set is called that due to miscommunications. Oops.
So just out of curiosity, how do we tell the difference between Sunstorm and Nova Storm? Are they a different shade of yellow? Because when I see a yellow seeker I immediately think Sunstorm.

As for Red Wing, I really like the sharp red paint, it pops. I bet he looks great next to Thundercracker, his blue is really sharp as well. Not sure if I will pick it up, I only collect Starscream. But the vehicle mode for this mold looks really good with a solid paint job, regardless of which color.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:22 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:
Skritz wrote:
ausbot wrote:Sunstorm or Acid storm please or even the periwinkle generic would be awesome.


If you are referring to the 'Rainmaker' trio, then the yellow one is not Sunstorm but rather called Nova Storm. Their trio consist of Acid Storm, Nova Storm and Ion Storm. People assume Sunstorm is considered a Rainmaker (he isn't, its Nova Storm who is the yellow one)....except when his Botcon set is called that due to miscommunications. Oops.
So just out of curiosity, how do we tell the difference between Sunstorm and Nova Storm? Are they a different shade of yellow? Because when I see a yellow seeker I immediately think Sunstorm.
Sunstorm is more cheddar cheese yellow with white. Nova Storm is more solid lemon yellow.

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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:04 pm

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:I'm loving this color scheme. I'm probably only going to pick up this guy, Skywarp, and Thundercracker in terms of this mold. The battle damage on Starscream kinda ruins that figure for me so I might just repurpose this figure as Armada Starscream's cybertronian mode

If the battle damage is the only issue, just wipe it off with some rubbing alcohol. I like the damage overall, but I might wipe it off of some figures after I add Selects characters like Smokescreen.


You can't wipe off the battle damage when it's paint on paint, though. Battle damage paint on bare plastic is no problem to remove, but when it's on top of already paint on detail, you're going to lose both paints in the process.

As you discovered with Sideswipe.


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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:09 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:
Skritz wrote:
ausbot wrote:Sunstorm or Acid storm please or even the periwinkle generic would be awesome.


If you are referring to the 'Rainmaker' trio, then the yellow one is not Sunstorm but rather called Nova Storm. Their trio consist of Acid Storm, Nova Storm and Ion Storm. People assume Sunstorm is considered a Rainmaker (he isn't, its Nova Storm who is the yellow one)....except when his Botcon set is called that due to miscommunications. Oops.
So just out of curiosity, how do we tell the difference between Sunstorm and Nova Storm? Are they a different shade of yellow? Because when I see a yellow seeker I immediately think Sunstorm.
Sunstorm is more cheddar cheese yellow with white. Nova Storm is more solid lemon yellow.

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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:06 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:
Skritz wrote:
ausbot wrote:Sunstorm or Acid storm please or even the periwinkle generic would be awesome.


If you are referring to the 'Rainmaker' trio, then the yellow one is not Sunstorm but rather called Nova Storm. Their trio consist of Acid Storm, Nova Storm and Ion Storm. People assume Sunstorm is considered a Rainmaker (he isn't, its Nova Storm who is the yellow one)....except when his Botcon set is called that due to miscommunications. Oops.
So just out of curiosity, how do we tell the difference between Sunstorm and Nova Storm? Are they a different shade of yellow? Because when I see a yellow seeker I immediately think Sunstorm.


As for two similarly coloured seekers, they did that again in Cyberverse with Nova Storm and Slipstream and I sure couldnt tell them apart just based on colour.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Nemesis Primal » Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:21 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Skritz wrote:
ausbot wrote:Sunstorm or Acid storm please or even the periwinkle generic would be awesome.


If you are referring to the 'Rainmaker' trio, then the yellow one is not Sunstorm but rather called Nova Storm. Their trio consist of Acid Storm, Nova Storm and Ion Storm. People assume Sunstorm is considered a Rainmaker (he isn't, its Nova Storm who is the yellow one)....except when his Botcon set is called that due to miscommunications. Oops.
So just out of curiosity, how do we tell the difference between Sunstorm and Nova Storm? Are they a different shade of yellow? Because when I see a yellow seeker I immediately think Sunstorm.


As for those two purple seekers, they did that again in Cyberverse and I sure couldnt tell them apart just based on colour.

If your Cyberverse reference is what I think it is, then what they did might actually be worse: they took Nova Storm, who is usually yellow and technically the only yellow named Seeker since Sunstorm is orange, and made them purple and a female character despite the show ALSO using Slipstream, causing possible confusion where there didn't need to be.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:36 pm

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Nemesis Primal wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Skritz wrote:
ausbot wrote:Sunstorm or Acid storm please or even the periwinkle generic would be awesome.


If you are referring to the 'Rainmaker' trio, then the yellow one is not Sunstorm but rather called Nova Storm. Their trio consist of Acid Storm, Nova Storm and Ion Storm. People assume Sunstorm is considered a Rainmaker (he isn't, its Nova Storm who is the yellow one)....except when his Botcon set is called that due to miscommunications. Oops.
So just out of curiosity, how do we tell the difference between Sunstorm and Nova Storm? Are they a different shade of yellow? Because when I see a yellow seeker I immediately think Sunstorm.


As for those two purple seekers, they did that again in Cyberverse and I sure couldnt tell them apart just based on colour.

If your Cyberverse reference is what I think it is, then what they did might actually be worse: they took Nova Storm, who is usually yellow and technically the only yellow named Seeker since Sunstorm is orange, and made them purple and a female character despite the show ALSO using Slipstream, causing possible confusion where there didn't need to be.


Yes excactly, and they kept that all throughout the show, making it very confusing in the final climactic battles.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:56 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Skritz wrote:
ausbot wrote:Sunstorm or Acid storm please or even the periwinkle generic would be awesome.


If you are referring to the 'Rainmaker' trio, then the yellow one is not Sunstorm but rather called Nova Storm. Their trio consist of Acid Storm, Nova Storm and Ion Storm. People assume Sunstorm is considered a Rainmaker (he isn't, its Nova Storm who is the yellow one)....except when his Botcon set is called that due to miscommunications. Oops.
So just out of curiosity, how do we tell the difference between Sunstorm and Nova Storm? Are they a different shade of yellow? Because when I see a yellow seeker I immediately think Sunstorm.


As for those two purple seekers, they did that again in Cyberverse and I sure couldnt tell them apart just based on colour.

If your Cyberverse reference is what I think it is, then what they did might actually be worse: they took Nova Storm, who is usually yellow and technically the only yellow named Seeker since Sunstorm is orange, and made them purple and a female character despite the show ALSO using Slipstream, causing possible confusion where there didn't need to be.


Yes excactly, and they kept that all throughout the show, making it very confusing in the final climactic battles.
Slipstream is purple and teal, though, and has a black helmet. Cyberverse Nova Storm is all purple (well, two shades of purple, but even her helmet is purple).
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:06 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Slipstream is purple and teal, though, and has a black helmet. Cyberverse Nova Storm is all purple (well, two shades of purple, but even her helmet is purple).

These major differences are really helpful in quick fight scenes.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jun 02, 2019 11:09 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Slipstream is purple and teal, though, and has a black helmet. Cyberverse Nova Storm is all purple (well, two shades of purple, but even her helmet is purple).

These major differences are really helpful in quick fight scenes.
Plus, Slipstream being a commander means that she got most of the important dialogue of all the Seekers present.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Nemesis Destron » Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:08 am

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I think a LOT of fans are planning on doing the same, honestly. It shouldn't be hard to do either. Starscream's head comes off without much effort.



Indeed...now I'm looking to get a Starscream for cheap/used for the momentous changing of the heads! :-P :VEHI:
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:49 am

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Nemesis Destron wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:If I get Thundercracker, I'm totally swapping his head with Starscream's.


I think a LOT of fans are planning on doing the same, honestly. It shouldn't be hard to do either. Starscream's head comes off without much effort.



Indeed...now I'm looking to get a Starscream for cheap/used for the momentous changing of the heads! :-P :VEHI:


Wait a bit for starscream. Of all the voyagers, he and megatron may end up the cheapest since both will be reissued later this year.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Skritz » Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:45 am

Speaking of Slipstream, anyone wondering if they'll do a Siege/Select version with a new head and maybe robot mode chest? I'd be up for it especially since those pieces are easily retooled on the Siege seeker mold.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:03 pm

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Skritz wrote:Speaking of Slipstream, anyone wondering if they'll do a Siege/Select version with a new head and maybe robot mode chest? I'd be up for it especially since those pieces are easily retooled on the Siege seeker mold.


She'd need more than just a new chest and head, the limbs are quite chunky for a female body type.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby AcademyofDrX » Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:42 pm

In Cyberverse, I wouldn't say either Slipstream or Starscream are "chunkier" than the other. I'd appreciate some retooling, but I'd also be fine with a straight redeco.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Rodimus Prime » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:25 pm

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Skritz wrote:Speaking of Slipstream, anyone wondering if they'll do a Siege/Select version with a new head and maybe robot mode chest? I'd be up for it especially since those pieces are easily retooled on the Siege seeker mold.


She'd need more than just a new chest and head, the limbs are quite chunky for a female body type.
Just wait until a feminist reads that... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Anyway, I honestly don't see why Hasbro doesn't try to get as much out of the mold as possible by producing every single seeker with the same body type. Even if the lesser known/desired ones get smaller production volumes, there is a segment of the fandom that would buy all of them, or at least some combination of some of them.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:32 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Skritz wrote:Speaking of Slipstream, anyone wondering if they'll do a Siege/Select version with a new head and maybe robot mode chest? I'd be up for it especially since those pieces are easily retooled on the Siege seeker mold.


She'd need more than just a new chest and head, the limbs are quite chunky for a female body type.
Just wait until a feminist reads that... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Anyway, I honestly don't see why Hasbro doesn't try to get as much out of the mold as possible by producing every single seeker with the same body type. Even if the lesser known/desired ones get smaller production volumes, there is a segment of the fandom that would buy all of them, or at least some combination of some of them.


I can provide some reasons. Hasbro's production volume is not infinite nor is it a linear function, meaning that even if they have the mold and only make a small amount for fans, that small amount accounts for production resources that are needed elsewhere. I mean even funpub couldnt get them all out (redwing will forever be missing in that class size) and they didnt have to depend on economies of scale nor to adhere to a pricepoint. All I am saying is that sometimes production is simply not viable even if there is an audience for it. We'll see of course.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby FellintoOblivion » Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:41 pm

So who IS the exclusive retailer for Red Wing? Is it going to be Hasbro Pulse?
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FellintoOblivion wrote:So who IS the exclusive retailer for Red Wing? Is it going to be Hasbro Pulse?

Either them or entertainment earth.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Skritz » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:05 pm

william-james88 wrote:
FellintoOblivion wrote:So who IS the exclusive retailer for Red Wing? Is it going to be Hasbro Pulse?

Either them or entertainment earth.


But the Generations Select Megatron and Red Swoop showed up om BBTS.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:16 pm

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Skritz wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
FellintoOblivion wrote:So who IS the exclusive retailer for Red Wing? Is it going to be Hasbro Pulse?

Either them or entertainment earth.


But the Generations Select Megatron and Red Swoop showed up om BBTS.

Then sure, all those places too. The two first mentionned though will have the best prices.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:37 am

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Skritz wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
FellintoOblivion wrote:So who IS the exclusive retailer for Red Wing? Is it going to be Hasbro Pulse?

Either them or entertainment earth.


But the Generations Select Megatron and Red Swoop showed up om BBTS.

Then sure, all those places too. The two first mentionned though will have the best prices.

Exactly, as bbts and the like will probably get them from one of the first two then sell at a mark up. It's no different from how places sell Tomy Takara Mall exclusive items
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:46 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Skritz wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
FellintoOblivion wrote:So who IS the exclusive retailer for Red Wing? Is it going to be Hasbro Pulse?

Either them or entertainment earth.


But the Generations Select Megatron and Red Swoop showed up om BBTS.

Then sure, all those places too. The two first mentionned though will have the best prices.

Exactly, as bbts and the like will probably get them from one of the first two then sell at a mark up. It's no different from how places sell Tomy Takara Mall exclusive items


You know what, I am not sure. Because those places sell it at the same mark up they sell regular releases at and we know they get those directly from Hasbro. So its maybe just like the May Mayhem toys which are online only but some retailers will sell them at a markup because they can.
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In Hand Images of Transformers Generations Select Red Wing

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:55 am

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Fellow Seibertronians, we have some exciting new pictures regarding the newly revealed Transformers Selects War For Cybertron Siege Redwing! Transfans on facebook has provided us some in hand photos showing the detail and paint scheme of the exciting upcoming figure for us to gush over. We also see images of Thundercracker which confirm that the battle damage is around the exact same spots. We also see him next to his Generations Selects friends. The standard price will be $29.99 but it is not certain exactly who will be carrying him at that price.

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