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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Nemesis Primal » Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:56 pm

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:YES!! BLUE BLUESTREAK!! Thank you Hasbro cause this one is a deco on this mold I've been wanting since they started doing Diaclone versions


Is there a fan/officially repurposed new babe for these? Perhaps there's an official distinction between "Bluestreak" and "Silverstreak"?
When the leakers first found out this existed a few days ago, they found and used the name Silverstreak before they knew anything else about the figure including the color, so there is a non-zero chance this figure will officially be called Silverstreak, yes.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:15 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:
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Rodimus Prime wrote:If that Blue Bluestreak is real, I'm definitely getting it. I never got the silver Bluestreak because the blue version is the comic accurate 1. Now if only we could get a blue and white Prowl...
But he was silver in the comics.
And blue.
To represent the black of his original toy.

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Marvel US always did that, using blue to represent black. Skywarp was blue. Trailbreaker was blue. Ravage was blue. Grimlock's black parts were blue. Rumble and Frenzy were both blue.
Exactly. Blue. Not black. I understand why the comics did it, bit the end result is is the same regardless of the reason. They were blue, not black. And since we're getting both versions, I don't see why this is even a debate. :-?
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby o.supreme » Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:32 pm

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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:34 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:If that Blue Bluestreak is real, I'm definitely getting it. I never got the silver Bluestreak because the blue version is the comic accurate 1. Now if only we could get a blue and white Prowl...
But he was silver in the comics.
And blue.
To represent the black of his original toy.

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Marvel US always did that, using blue to represent black. Skywarp was blue. Trailbreaker was blue. Ravage was blue. Grimlock's black parts were blue. Rumble and Frenzy were both blue.
Exactly. Blue. Not black. I understand why the comics did it, bit the end result is is the same regardless of the reason. They were blue, not black. And since we're getting both versions, I don't see why this is even a debate. :-?
Diaclone blue Bluestreak is blue in many of the wrong places for Marvel Bluestreak, and is missing all of his red parts too. To get a truly comic-accurate Bluestreak, he'd need to first be in his toy-accurate "all-silver car body parts w/ red and black robot parts" deco (as pictured above) but with the black robot parts, car windows, and car bumpers made blue. No part of his car's main body should be blue, which is the primary color of Diaclone blue Bluestreak's car body.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:31 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:If that Blue Bluestreak is real, I'm definitely getting it. I never got the silver Bluestreak because the blue version is the comic accurate 1. Now if only we could get a blue and white Prowl...
But he was silver in the comics.
And blue.
To represent the black of his original toy.

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Marvel US always did that, using blue to represent black. Skywarp was blue. Trailbreaker was blue. Ravage was blue. Grimlock's black parts were blue. Rumble and Frenzy were both blue.
Exactly. Blue. Not black. I understand why the comics did it, bit the end result is is the same regardless of the reason. They were blue, not black. And since we're getting both versions, I don't see why this is even a debate. :-?
Diaclone blue Bluestreak is blue in many of the wrong places for Marvel Bluestreak, and is missing all of his red parts too. To get a truly comic-accurate Bluestreak, he'd need to first be in his toy-accurate "all-silver car body parts w/ red and black robot parts" deco (as pictured above) but with the black robot parts, car windows, and car bumpers made blue. No part of his car's main body should be blue, which is the primary color of Diaclone blue Bluestreak's car body.
Nitpick all you want, this new blue Bluestreak is still closer to the comic deco than the cartoon deco, regardless of its origins.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:32 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Nitpick all you want, this new blue Bluestreak is still closer to the comic deco than the cartoon deco, regardless of its origins.


When was the alt mode blue in the comic? Looks silver/grey in every panel I ever read.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:12 pm

So clearly I must be in the minority for just liking it cause its pretty. >:oP

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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:24 pm

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:So clearly I must be in the minority for just liking it cause its pretty. >:oP

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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:45 pm

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:So clearly I must be in the minority for just liking it cause its pretty. >:oP

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I'd buy it cause it's pretty. Good mold too. If easily attainable, it's a sure get for me.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:19 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Nitpick all you want, this new blue Bluestreak is still closer to the comic deco than the cartoon deco, regardless of its origins.


When was the alt mode blue in the comic? Looks silver/grey in every panel I ever read.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:40 pm

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:So clearly I must be in the minority for just liking it cause its pretty. >:oP

No source material required.

I mean, I really like the color scheme, plus I prefer the name Bluestreak for this version cause of the blue sides, in addition to the "talks a lot". Plus, I believe that this was the original color scheme before the one that got used for the cartoon was invented, kinda like the Sunstreaker/Sideswipe color swap
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:52 pm

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Sentinel_Primal wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:So clearly I must be in the minority for just liking it cause its pretty. >:oP

No source material required.

I mean, I really like the color scheme, plus I prefer the name Bluestreak for this version cause of the blue sides, in addition to the "talks a lot". Plus, I believe that this was the original color scheme before the one that got used for the cartoon was invented, kinda like the Sunstreaker/Sideswipe color swap
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby AcademyofDrX » Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:56 am

I'm happy you DiaBros are getting another redeco, but after double dipping the cartoon characters across Siege and Earthrise, the last thing I need is another Datsun.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby primalxconvoy » Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:59 am

Sentinel_Primal wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:So clearly I must be in the minority for just liking it cause its pretty. >:oP

No source material required.

I mean, I really like the color scheme, plus I prefer the name Bluestreak for this version cause of the blue sides, in addition to the "talks a lot". Plus, I believe that this was the original color scheme before the one that got used for the cartoon was invented, kinda like the Sunstreaker/Sideswipe color swap


I'm surprised that none of the comics have addressed the "Blue/Silverstreak" situation and just created them as two separate individuals...
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Rodimus Prime » Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:44 am

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AcademyofDrX wrote:I'm happy you DiaBros are getting another redeco, but after double dipping the cartoon characters across Siege and Earthrise, the last thing I need is another Datsun.
You can never have too many Datsuns. :-D Just like you can never have too many seekers.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:49 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:I'm happy you DiaBros are getting another redeco, but after double dipping the cartoon characters across Siege and Earthrise, the last thing I need is another Datsun.
You can never have too many Datsuns. :-D Just like you can never have too many seekers.


^^^This

Also, since they went ahead and gave us a decepticon datsun in Barricade, when are we going to get an autobot in a seeker mold? I know I'd be down for one, but would want a new or re-purposed character that is not an aerialbot or Jetfire.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby AcademyofDrX » Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:52 am

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:I'm happy you DiaBros are getting another redeco, but after double dipping the cartoon characters across Siege and Earthrise, the last thing I need is another Datsun.
You can never have too many Datsuns. :-D Just like you can never have too many seekers.
^^^This

My shelves, toy room, closets, and immediate family members all disagree!
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:15 am

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:I'm happy you DiaBros are getting another redeco, but after double dipping the cartoon characters across Siege and Earthrise, the last thing I need is another Datsun.
You can never have too many Datsuns. :-D Just like you can never have too many seekers.


^^^This

Also, since they went ahead and gave us a decepticon datsun in Barricade, when are we going to get an autobot in a seeker mold? I know I'd be down for one, but would want a new or re-purposed character that is not an aerialbot or Jetfire.
Closest we have right now is SG Starscream, who'd naturally side with the Heroic Autobots were he brought into the normal universe.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:04 pm

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primalxconvoy wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:So clearly I must be in the minority for just liking it cause its pretty. >:oP

No source material required.

I mean, I really like the color scheme, plus I prefer the name Bluestreak for this version cause of the blue sides, in addition to the "talks a lot". Plus, I believe that this was the original color scheme before the one that got used for the cartoon was invented, kinda like the Sunstreaker/Sideswipe color swap


I'm surprised that none of the comics have addressed the "Blue/Silverstreak" situation and just created them as two separate individuals...

I believe Takara did at one point for MP blue Bluestreak, where normal Bluestreak (who I'll call Streak for the sake of clarity) shared a name with the ultra stealthy, borderline mythical, Winter Soldier style Bluestreak, granting Streak a bit of intimidation when fighting Cons, while Silverstreak was an additional Datsun with no relation
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby primalxconvoy » Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:20 pm

Sentinel_Primal wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:So clearly I must be in the minority for just liking it cause its pretty. >:oP

No source material required.

I mean, I really like the color scheme, plus I prefer the name Bluestreak for this version cause of the blue sides, in addition to the "talks a lot". Plus, I believe that this was the original color scheme before the one that got used for the cartoon was invented, kinda like the Sunstreaker/Sideswipe color swap


I'm surprised that none of the comics have addressed the "Blue/Silverstreak" situation and just created them as two separate individuals...

I believe Takara did at one point for MP blue Bluestreak, where normal Bluestreak (who I'll call Streak for the sake of clarity) shared a name with the ultra stealthy, borderline mythical, Winter Soldier style Bluestreak, granting Streak a bit of intimidation when fighting Cons, while Silverstreak was an additional Datsun with no relation


Cheers! Is that in the wiki?
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Sentinel_Primal » Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:33 pm

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primalxconvoy wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:So clearly I must be in the minority for just liking it cause its pretty. >:oP

No source material required.

I mean, I really like the color scheme, plus I prefer the name Bluestreak for this version cause of the blue sides, in addition to the "talks a lot". Plus, I believe that this was the original color scheme before the one that got used for the cartoon was invented, kinda like the Sunstreaker/Sideswipe color swap


I'm surprised that none of the comics have addressed the "Blue/Silverstreak" situation and just created them as two separate individuals...

I believe Takara did at one point for MP blue Bluestreak, where normal Bluestreak (who I'll call Streak for the sake of clarity) shared a name with the ultra stealthy, borderline mythical, Winter Soldier style Bluestreak, granting Streak a bit of intimidation when fighting Cons, while Silverstreak was an additional Datsun with no relation


Cheers! Is that in the wiki?

Well, I believe it was, but it seems to have vanished... So unfortunatley I can't check my facts or provide a link to it
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby primalxconvoy » Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:44 pm

Sentinel_Primal wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:So clearly I must be in the minority for just liking it cause its pretty. >:oP

No source material required.

I mean, I really like the color scheme, plus I prefer the name Bluestreak for this version cause of the blue sides, in addition to the "talks a lot". Plus, I believe that this was the original color scheme before the one that got used for the cartoon was invented, kinda like the Sunstreaker/Sideswipe color swap


I'm surprised that none of the comics have addressed the "Blue/Silverstreak" situation and just created them as two separate individuals...

I believe Takara did at one point for MP blue Bluestreak, where normal Bluestreak (who I'll call Streak for the sake of clarity) shared a name with the ultra stealthy, borderline mythical, Winter Soldier style Bluestreak, granting Streak a bit of intimidation when fighting Cons, while Silverstreak was an additional Datsun with no relation


Cheers! Is that in the wiki?

Well, I believe it was, but it seems to have vanished... So unfortunatley I can't check my facts or provide a link to it


I hate that when it happens. It almost feels like the internet has gas-lighted me...
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:59 pm

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primalxconvoy wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:So clearly I must be in the minority for just liking it cause its pretty. >:oP

No source material required.

I mean, I really like the color scheme, plus I prefer the name Bluestreak for this version cause of the blue sides, in addition to the "talks a lot". Plus, I believe that this was the original color scheme before the one that got used for the cartoon was invented, kinda like the Sunstreaker/Sideswipe color swap


I'm surprised that none of the comics have addressed the "Blue/Silverstreak" situation and just created them as two separate individuals...

I believe Takara did at one point for MP blue Bluestreak, where normal Bluestreak (who I'll call Streak for the sake of clarity) shared a name with the ultra stealthy, borderline mythical, Winter Soldier style Bluestreak, granting Streak a bit of intimidation when fighting Cons, while Silverstreak was an additional Datsun with no relation


Cheers! Is that in the wiki?

Well, I believe it was, but it seems to have vanished... So unfortunatley I can't check my facts or provide a link to it


I hate that when it happens. It almost feels like the internet has gas-lighted me...
Originally, MP blue Bluestreak had his own Wiki page because of some ambiguity in his bio that sort of made him sound like he was his own guy related to the Diaclone universe. But when MP Spin-Out came out his bio mentioned blue Bluestreak and clarified that he was just another form of normal Bluestreak--a sort of alter ego that changes Bluestreak's colors and alters his programming--and so his information was merged into normal Bluestreak's page.

As for MP Silverstreak, his bio was identical to that of normal Bluestreak, just with "Silver" added to his name, meaning he's just a toy-accurate MP of normal Bluestreak meant for collectors who prefer toy-accuracy over show-accuracy.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby primalxconvoy » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:54 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Originally, MP blue Bluestreak had his own Wiki page because of some ambiguity in his bio that sort of made him sound like he was his own guy related to the Diaclone universe. But when MP Spin-Out came out his bio mentioned blue Bluestreak and clarified that he was just another form of normal Bluestreak--a sort of alter ego that changes Bluestreak's colors and alters his programming--and so his information was merged into normal Bluestreak's page.

As for MP Silverstreak, his bio was identical to that of normal Bluestreak, just with "Silver" added to his name, meaning he's just a toy-accurate MP of normal Bluestreak meant for collectors who prefer toy-accuracy over show-accuracy.


Thanks for the clarification. Personally, I really wish Silver/Bluestreak were two separate individuals though...

That, or they could make a toy that was able to switch between his "silver" and "blue" personalities/colours.
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Re: Transformers Generations SELECTS Series Discussion

Postby Sherlock Zero » Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:46 am

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Streak was his JG1 name. Which is so much better than what they called Bumblebee (Bumble) and Cliffjumper (Cliff). :lol: But it is a shame that I stopped following that continuity. Because I know that I'll be using theories behind the events that turned him into Bluestreak as an excuse to collect the Datsun mold. :lol:

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