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Nuh uh. They were teased, announced, and revealed as a set upfront:Hellscream9999 wrote:pretty sure they showed off computicon one by one
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
The Legends class component was more Hasbro's thing. Takara omitted that component for all of their Unite Warriors releases. And with this being a Takara-only project, chances are they'd make all five limb components at the Deluxe class, while somehow also making Overbite convert into a gun mode (since he was the one whom King Poseidon wielded in gun mode).00Stargrave00 wrote:Cutthroat could be Tentakill easy just swap the wing components with octopus arms. Or heck I’m looking at Blot and I could see a Tentakill out of him too hmm. Rippersnapper already kind of has that Skalor look I think. I think it’d be an easy swap for all of them but who would be that Legends class dedicated TargetmasterThat’s wishful thinking of course I think that’d be so cool.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
00Stargrave00 wrote:Cutthroat could be Tentakill easy just swap the wing components with octopus arms. Or heck I’m looking at Blot and I could see a Tentakill out of him too hmm. Rippersnapper already kind of has that Skalor look I think. I think it’d be an easy swap for all of them but who would be that Legends class dedicated TargetmasterThat’s wishful thinking of course I think that’d be so cool.
Sabrblade wrote:The Legends class component was more Hasbro's thing. Takara omitted that component for all of their Unite Warriors releases. And with this being a Takara-only project, chances are they'd make all five limb components at the Deluxe class, while somehow also making Overbite convert into a gun mode (since he was the one whom King Poseidon wielded in gun mode).
From what we've seen of both the last few Legends releases and the likes of Star Convoy, Takara seems to be able to still do their own projects without Hasbro's involvement that in turn aren't subject to the terms and/or limitations of the brand unification, with the only effect said unification appears to have on these is their being sold on Hasbro Pulse, beginning with Star Convoy.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Sabrblade, it occurs to me that those incidences were prior to brand unification, which may have changed their strategy a bit.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:From what we've seen of both the last few Legends releases and the likes of Star Convoy, Takara seems to be able to still do their own projects without Hasbro's involvement that in turn aren't subject to the terms and/or limitations of the brand unification, with the only effect said unification appears to have on these is their being sold on Hasbro Pulse, beginning with Star Convoy.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Sabrblade, it occurs to me that those incidences were prior to brand unification, which may have changed their strategy a bit.
Sabrblade wrote:Just look at how much mass that Turtler has; all that retooling had to have been done well beyond the range of Hasbro's typical budget for a Voyager class figure.
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I'm holding out hope for the entire Seacon team.
I held out hope for Computron and was greatly rewarded. I'm gonna hold onto the same hope here
That would only matter if Takara had to conform to Hasbro's more rigid size class-based packaging requirements. But, by all appearances, every Takara-original product being sold on Hasbro Pulse is just going to be a straight import with the original Japanese packaging.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Sabrblade wrote:From what we've seen of both the last few Legends releases and the likes of Star Convoy, Takara seems to be able to still do their own projects without Hasbro's involvement that in turn aren't subject to the terms and/or limitations of the brand unification, with the only effect said unification appears to have on these is their being sold on Hasbro Pulse, beginning with Star Convoy.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Sabrblade, it occurs to me that those incidences were prior to brand unification, which may have changed their strategy a bit.
Well, that was kind of my point. I was thinking that the fact that these will be sold to the USA as well might have changed up their marketing strategy.
Yeah. that's another curiosity that makes this very strange for Takara. If they're planning to make the whole team, there really doesn't seem to be any reason for them to not do it as another giftset. It's weird.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:But now another thought has occurred to me. The teams that Takara teased and advertised all together? Were sold as giftsets. If the Seacons are being sold singly...
Indeed. Further evidence that Takara made all these extensive retool changes without Hasbro's input, like when they made all new figures for Groove and Blast Off, or when they did their own unique retooling for their Technobots on top of the established pretooling that each of those molds had already had.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Just look at how much mass that Turtler has; all that retooling had to have been done well beyond the range of Hasbro's typical budget for a Voyager class figure.
Oh, definitely, but then it is an exclusive. Some of the new parts doubtless existed on the mold already, but certainly not things like the big sword and gun. And the shield has probably been made fancier.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah. that's another curiosity that makes this very strange for Takara. If they're planning to make the whole team, there really doesn't seem to be any reason for them to not do it as another giftset. It's weird.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:But now another thought has occurred to me. The teams that Takara teased and advertised all together? Were sold as giftsets. If the Seacons are being sold singly...
Sabrblade wrote:That would only matter if Takara had to conform to Hasbro's more rigid size class-based packaging requirements.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Sabrblade wrote:From what we've seen of both the last few Legends releases and the likes of Star Convoy, Takara seems to be able to still do their own projects without Hasbro's involvement that in turn aren't subject to the terms and/or limitations of the brand unification, with the only effect said unification appears to have on these is their being sold on Hasbro Pulse, beginning with Star Convoy.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Sabrblade, it occurs to me that those incidences were prior to brand unification, which may have changed their strategy a bit.
Well, that was kind of my point. I was thinking that the fact that these will be sold to the USA as well might have changed up their marketing strategy.
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah. that's another curiosity that makes this very strange for Takara. If they're planning to make the whole team, there really doesn't seem to be any reason for them to not do it as another giftset. It's weird.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:But now another thought has occurred to me. The teams that Takara teased and advertised all together? Were sold as giftsets. If the Seacons are being sold singly...
Indeed. Further evidence that Takara made all these extensive retool changes without Hasbro's input, like when they made all new figures for Groove and Blast Off, or when they did their own unique retooling for their Technobots on top of the established pretooling that each of those molds had already had.[/quote]ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Just look at how much mass that Turtler has; all that retooling had to have been done well beyond the range of Hasbro's typical budget for a Voyager class figure.
Oh, definitely, but then it is an exclusive. Some of the new parts doubtless existed on the mold already, but certainly not things like the big sword and gun. And the shield has probably been made fancier.
That's what I said. Takara's Technobots had additional unique retooling done to their molds on top of the pretooling that each of those molds had already had made for them by Hasbro:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Actually, with the Technobots Takara outright retooled different molds for three of them. Lightspeed was retooled from the Wheeljack version of the Breakdown mold instead of being a Streetwise redeco, Nosecone was retooled from Rook instead of Brawl, and Strafe was retooled from Shuttle!Blast Off.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
00Stargrave00 wrote:What do you think would make for the best retools into Seacons Sabr? Just if, if they did make that set.
Always have a soft spot for Seacons I got the gift set for my bday as a kid gets me giddy thinking about a whole Piranhacon. I don’t like the King blah blah jazz I will always think Piranhacon is one of the coolest gestalt names.
william-james88 wrote:00Stargrave00 wrote:What do you think would make for the best retools into Seacons Sabr? Just if, if they did make that set.
Always have a soft spot for Seacons I got the gift set for my bday as a kid gets me giddy thinking about a whole Piranhacon. I don’t like the King blah blah jazz I will always think Piranhacon is one of the coolest gestalt names.
They are organic based designs so it would have to be the monsterbots or dinobots, unless we get some fully new molds.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Told you guys to have faith!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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