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News Credits: 48 · by **Nemesis Primal** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:53 pm

I think the Ironhide/Crosshairs/Ratchet mold proves they're willing to do more than just one alternate head, so Ironfist/Ironclad could absolutely happen.

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:57 pm

If I didn't enjoy red wing so much I'd organize a cage match for everyone who wants one, last man standing gets to buy it.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:03 am

Got the shipping notice from Target for Red Wing, should be here next Thursday.

Shame Pulse hasn't shown any sign of shipping Lancer and Galactic Man yet even though they're paid for and in stock.

Emerje

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:22 am

You say that the cons need filling out, but don't they outnumber the bots at voyager level? It could be why deluxe looks so con-barren but the bots are supposed to be smaller.

@bvzxa I can see why you would have grounds on Target but Hasbro will just say they had no idea that Red Wing was going to be put behind the Red Card. Can't see why you're dragging them into it when it sounds like your main beef is with Target and how they're handling this particular exclusive.

News Credits: 9 · by **triKlops** » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:14 am

Selects relevant side note via Moonbase 2 regarding Shackwave- Astro Magnum; he first appeared in the movie Aliens...

https://www.retroist.com/2017/05/21/decepticon-shockwave-was-in-aliens/

http://moonbase2.libsyn.com/moonbase-2-episode-556 Mention is about the 18 min mark.

News Credits: 1 · by **The_Cryptid_Person** » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:40 am

triKlops wrote:Selects relevant side note via Moonbase 2 regarding Shackwave- Astro Magnum; he first appeared in the movie Aliens...

https://www.retroist.com/2017/05/21/decepticon-shockwave-was-in-aliens/

http://moonbase2.libsyn.com/moonbase-2-episode-556 Mention is about the 18 min mark.

That is some neat trivia. Guess those set designers will use anything if it works... :roll:

Chug collector moment: I never knew that G1 Shockwave was HUGE! The set photos had me a little curious, so I checked the old galleries. If G1 Megatron was a siege voyager, Shockwave was at least a Prime Wars Leader. Much like with Blaster, I had no idea.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:04 am

As far as fun facts go, that fact right there is FUN!

I had never heard that either.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:30 pm

Cobotron wrote:As far as fun facts go, that fact right there is FUN!

I had never heard that either.

Did you know that Starscream was in top gun?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:08 pm

Nemesis Primal wrote:I think the Ironhide/Crosshairs/Ratchet mold proves they're willing to do more than just one alternate head, so Ironfist/Ironclad could absolutely happen.

Technically, two heads per shell seems to be the norm. Ironhide and Crosshairs are one shell, Ratchet is another

Ironfist/Ironclad/Fisitron can still happen as a reshelling of Hound.

News Credits: 2 · by **matthewrex** » Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:35 pm

Just got Redwing delivered and the hinge for his back immediately snapped off. Very soft plastic. I'm glad I ordered two! Gonna return it.

Be careful if you ordered him! Didn't have this issue with Starscream...

News Credits: 3 · by **bvzxa** » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:31 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:You say that the cons need filling out, but don't they outnumber the bots at voyager level? It could be why deluxe looks so con-barren but the bots are supposed to be smaller.

@bvzxa I can see why you would have grounds on Target but Hasbro will just say they had no idea that Red Wing was going to be put behind the Red Card. Can't see why you're dragging them into it when it sounds like your main beef is with Target and how they're handling this particular exclusive.

They would be included by proxy if I ever did lol. Thats the way lawsuits work.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:16 pm

Cobotron wrote:As far as fun facts go, that fact right there is FUN!

I had never heard that either.

Not a true fan. >:oP

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:22 pm

Burn wrote:
Cobotron wrote:As far as fun facts go, that fact right there is FUN!

I had never heard that either.

Not a true fan.

Yup! Just a wannabee.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:01 am

matthewrex wrote:Just got Redwing delivered and the hinge for his back immediately snapped off. Very soft plastic. I'm glad I ordered two! Gonna return it.

Be careful if you ordered him! Didn't have this issue with Starscream...

Ouch, that sucks. Make sure you take a picture and complain to Hasbro via their website to make sure they know about the problem.

by **Vic Zanzibar** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:37 pm

Another interesting idea for Selects would to remold an Aerialbot; I’d go with Skydive; into Sweeps and sell a four pack of them to combine with TR Cyclonus. The ultimate endpoint of Combiner Wars: not only the same mold four times like the Moonracer mold for Orthia, but the exact same figure four times.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:53 pm

Hmm, redcard exclusive Redwing.

With as niche as he is, I think I'll wait to see if he ends up on regular Target availability. I'm doing the same with Greenlight on Amazon. I just don't want to get an extra card or service for a figure. Even though Redwing is the seeker that looks by far the best.

As for the new selects, I gotta catch up on con stuff. I'm really salty about a lack of Studio Series.

I am kicking myself a bit for Reflector, but I think I will stick with my retail and not worry about the extra. I need to get Lancer so I can complete my final combiner team.

News Credits: 56 · by **Nathaniel Prime** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:05 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Hmm, redcard exclusive Redwing.

With as niche as he is, I think I'll wait to see if he ends up on regular Target availability. I'm doing the same with Greenlight on Amazon. I just don't want to get an extra card or service for a figure. Even though Redwing is the seeker that looks by far the best.

As for the new selects, I gotta catch up on con stuff. I'm really salty about a lack of Studio Series.

I am kicking myself a bit for Reflector, but I think I will stick with my retail and not worry about the extra. I need to get Lancer so I can complete my final combiner team.

I don't want to sign up for this REDcard thing. Not because I don't want more cards, but I don't want to get one that looks that complicated and requires time to get one.

RedWing is definitely the best version of the Seeker mold so far, but I dunno if I want to go through the trouble of getting one.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:19 pm

Nathaniel Prime wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Hmm, redcard exclusive Redwing.

With as niche as he is, I think I'll wait to see if he ends up on regular Target availability. I'm doing the same with Greenlight on Amazon. I just don't want to get an extra card or service for a figure. Even though Redwing is the seeker that looks by far the best.

As for the new selects, I gotta catch up on con stuff. I'm really salty about a lack of Studio Series.

I am kicking myself a bit for Reflector, but I think I will stick with my retail and not worry about the extra. I need to get Lancer so I can complete my final combiner team.

I don't want to sign up for this REDcard thing. Not because I don't want more cards, but I don't want to get one that looks that complicated and requires time to get one.

RedWing is definitely the best version of the Seeker mold so far, but I dunno if I want to go through the trouble of getting one.

I don't really want to either. It's why I'll wait and see what happens. He looks the best, but not having that mold yet, I'm not sure how good it actually is, and whether or not I really want 5 of it

by **Vic Zanzibar** » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:44 pm

Red Wing Being a membership exclusive is... obnoxious and oddly/appropriately TFCC reminiscent.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:26 am

Are there no alternatives for getting Red Wing? Like, are BBTS and TFSource not going to try to get him like they would try to get TCC exclusives?

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:11 am

Sabrblade wrote:Are there no alternatives for getting Red Wing? Like, are BBTS and TFSource not going to try to get him like they would try to get TCC exclusives?

I don't recall there being alternatives to the following Target exclusives either:

What online stores have done is buy from target and sell at a markup:

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:12 am

Sabrblade wrote:Are there no alternatives for getting Red Wing? Like, are BBTS and TFSource not going to try to get him like they would try to get TCC exclusives?

I don't recall there being alternatives to the following Target exclusives for either of those online retailers either:

What online stores have done is buy from target and sell at a markup.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:13 am

Those were all easily findable in brick-and-mortar stores, though.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:18 am

Sabrblade wrote:Those were all easily findable in brick-and-mortar stores, though.

Doesn't change the point that target exclusives are usually exclusively at Target.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:28 am

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Those were all easily findable in brick-and-mortar stores, though.

Doesn't change the point that target exclusives are usually exclusively at Target.

Also doesn't change the point that BBTS and TFSource have historically gotten a hold of other retailers' exclusives regardless. They both currently have the Entertainment Earth exclusives on preorder.

And, RobotKingdom did previously have Red Wing in stock long before the figure was put on Target.com.