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[blackeyedprime]

Well it ticks some boxes...

3x more expensive then the originals...
removal of features...
removal of quality (though the rubber wheels of the original might be debatable with them mostly not surviving time)

Not sure i'm keen on the front of Optimuses truck mode but looks pretty good otherwise, the addition of another figure is neat though it kinda feels like Optimus needs a 'roller' now if magnus gets ikkle guy.

Could these have been done at retail? With the £90 Commnder classes, yeagh thye probably could have.Plus then we might have got the yellow Optimus repaint.

Not really convinced on this over the originals but it's nice enough for those that want it and it's not superfluous like starsaber was so bonus points for that. Though if the reissues were with out any issues then maybe.

Another haslab skip for me which is always a good thing.

[Razorbeast88]

Where are the other reveals? That's it?

What other reveals? They showed the tier bonuses.

I was hoping the 40th anniversary stream would include revealing the next wave of legacy and studio series, and that 5 pack

I didnt see until now that it's just haslab

[Omegatron.]

I'm actually concerned this may be the first HasLab TF to NOT get funded. The general response is very lukewarm at best.

It's already about a third of the way funded on only the first day, I'm not worried.

[Sabrblade]

Where are the other reveals? That's it?

What other reveals? They showed the tier bonuses.

I was hoping the 40th anniversary stream would include revealing the next wave of legacy and studio series, and that 5 pack

I didnt see until now that it's just haslab

That's what the original announcement of this stream said it would be.

[Razorbeast88]

Where are the other reveals? That's it?

What other reveals? They showed the tier bonuses.

I was hoping the 40th anniversary stream would include revealing the next wave of legacy and studio series, and that 5 pack

I didnt see until now that it's just haslab

That's what the original announcement of this stream said it would be.

^

[Grahf_]

I'm actually concerned this may be the first HasLab TF to NOT get funded. The general response is very lukewarm at best.

It's already about a third of the way funded on only the first day, I'm not worried.

I know right? The vocal minority is going hard trying to convince others that nobody wants this but the numbers that matter are saying otherwise currently.

It's human nature to be more vocal about something negative than they are to be vocal about something positive.

Obviously it's fine if you don't like or want it. But to say that it's the worst thing ever just because it's not what you wanted or were expecting it to be and that EVERYONE agrees like most are trying to have other believe is going on are just inane. It's mainly just the Facebook post I'm seeing this on so far though. I'm at work and haven't exactly checked around many forums yet.

[kurthy]

Not really getting some of the carping about this figure.
It's cheaper than the overpriced encore from 6 years ago that had to be recalled.

The originals, while amazing, still have a lot of issues that seem to be fixed in this version. I get why Evan was very emphatic about not having rubber tires because I've owned a couple of these.

Let's face it, these were never coming out at retail, even at the commander price point with some slimmed down packaging and the loss of blue bolt. Optimus, yes, absolutely could have been done at commander, probably the loss of moveable missiles and some other things in favor of blast effects. Ultra Magnus, no way in hell was any retailer signing off on a commander who mostly is designed to be armor for another commander that wouldn't be on store shelves at the same time. This would have been released over at least two years and retailers wouldn't have bitten.

There's honestly not many TF haslabs that would have gotten a large chunk of the fandom with disposable income to cheer at the moment. Somethings Hasbro would rather be able to reuse the molds, some are too expensive, some are too niche.

[First-Aid]

I'm actually concerned this may be the first HasLab TF to NOT get funded. The general response is very lukewarm at best.

It's already about a third of the way funded on only the first day, I'm not worried.

I know right? The vocal minority is going hard trying to convince others that nobody wants this but the numbers that matter are saying otherwise currently.

It's human nature to be more vocal about something negative than they are to be vocal about something positive.

Obviously it's fine if you don't like or want it. But to say that it's the worst thing ever just because it's not what you wanted or were expecting it to be and that EVERYONE agrees like most are trying to have other believe is going on are just inane. It's mainly just the Facebook post I'm seeing this on so far though. I'm at work and haven't exactly checked around many forums yet.

PLease see my post above that I did back this. I am considering rescinding it though because I already have the original and it honestly doesn't look that much better.

[Rodimus Prime]

I'm happy to see this and will most likely pick it up. I will have to wait until close to the deadline, if Hasbro is charging full price right off the bat.

I didn't watch the video so I'm wondering, is Ultra Magnus more posable this time around? And will the price increase if the other tiers are unlocked? I don't care about the sword but a space bridge display would be neat.

[Omegatron.]

I'm happy to see this and will most likely pick it up. I will have to wait until close to the deadline, if Hasbro is charging full price right off the bat.

Don't worry, they don't charge till the end of the campaign.

And will the price increase if the other tiers are unlocked? I don't care about the sword but a space bridge display would be neat.

I don't think it has for any previous Haslab, certainly not for Victory Sabre.

[Sabrblade]

I didn't watch the video so I'm wondering, is Ultra Magnus more posable this time around?

Articulation wasn't shown off for any aspect of the set, since all they had to show off were gray resin cast samples that Evan was nervous about breaking, and CG digital renders that showed off the color schemes.

And will the price increase if the other tiers are unlocked? I don't care about the sword but a space bridge display would be neat.

Tiers don't affect the price, no.

[Seibertron]

I think this looks good for a regular retail set. I'd be excited about it for that. However, it doesn't have many (or any?) improvements upon the original so I'm not sure who this is going to appeal to for the crazy price. The Haslab RID Optimus Prime looks so close to the original 2001 version in robot mode that I can't tell the difference at first glance (it even has the goofy hands from the original set and the ladder acts as a 3rd leg yet again). You can get a nice original RID 2001 Omega Prime (Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus complete set) for under $200 still and that figure I think is larger than this new Haslab version. I'd be excited for this figure at retail prices, but at Haslab exclusivity, I think this is a miss.

One of the stretch goals should have been RID 2001 on Region 1 DVD.

[o.supreme]

I know I was a bit disappointed that it wasn't Primus, but upon having reality set in after a few hours, I'm actually glad for those that want this. I know this is quite a contradiction as Car Robots is one of my Favorite TF shows of all time, but Omega Prime is just not something I need in my collection. Still, it does look awesome. I am more than happy for those who are backing this, and I have no doubt it will fund.

I know Hasbro's toy rights have never been an issue, even with this series. However I wonder when this is successfully funded, if it will give some thought to the powers that be at Hasbro into looking at getting the rights to the TV series back from Disney (who acquired it in a package deal from Saban several years back). Disney doesn't even know they have it most likely, they didn't even put it on their streaming service.

I mean unofficially; I have Car Robots with great fansubs, as well as a Malaysian DVD of RiD, so I'm set to watch this whenever I please. But I still think an Official North American release is long overdue.

[Sabrblade]

I know I was a bit disappointed that it wasn't Primus,

A thought just crossed my mind. Maybe they're saving Primus for the 50th anniversary.

I mean, had they done Primus now, what would be more special for them to do for the 50th?

[bluecatcinema]

Now this was unexpected. But still pretty awesome. Here's hoping it gets the backers it needs.

Who knows? If this gets produced, then maybe they'll make a HasLab RID Megatron someday.

[kurthy]

I think this looks good for a regular retail set. I'd be excited about it for that. However, it doesn't have many (or any?) improvements upon the original so I'm not sure who this is going to appeal to for the crazy price. The Haslab RID Optimus Prime looks so close to the original 2001 version in robot mode that I can't tell the difference at first glance (it even has the goofy hands from the original set and the ladder acts as a 3rd leg yet again). You can get a nice original RID 2001 Omega Prime (Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus complete set) for under $200 still and that figure I think is larger than this new Haslab version. I'd be excited for this figure at retail prices, but at Haslab exclusivity, I think this is a miss.

One of the stretch goals should have been RID 2001 on Region 1 DVD.

The haslab figure is noticeably larger. Both Optimus and Omega were shown against the originals. Guess Evan didn't have two copies of Ultra Magnus at home to bring, just two Optimus.

[Cheetron]

Optimus looks great! Combined mode is awesome. Only 2 issues I can ssee. Does prime come with his smaller mode pistol? And the shoulder/head region of UM. It looks so bad. The more I stared at it, the more I saw a tiny head floating above drooped shoulders

[Rodimus Prime]

I know I was a bit disappointed that it wasn't Primus,

A thought just crossed my mind. Maybe they're saving Primus for the 50th anniversary.

You think they would wait another 10 years? I mean, I guess now they would. But if anniversaries meant so much to them they could have waited until 2026 with Unicron.

I mean, had they done Primus now, what would be more special for them to do for the 50th?

I bet it will be a set of some kind, or maybe a new, more articulate and detailed G1 Fort Max. Scaled to MP size.

Besides, the Pulse listing said this won't ship until fall 2025 so it's not even the 40th anniversary.

[Sabrblade]

I know I was a bit disappointed that it wasn't Primus,

A thought just crossed my mind. Maybe they're saving Primus for the 50th anniversary.

You think they would wait another 10 years? I mean, I guess now they would. But if anniversaries meant so much to them they could have waited until 2026 with Unicron.

Well, Unicron's release was the 35th anniversary of TFTM.

[First-Aid]

I know I was a bit disappointed that it wasn't Primus,

A thought just crossed my mind. Maybe they're saving Primus for the 50th anniversary.

You think they would wait another 10 years? I mean, I guess now they would. But if anniversaries meant so much to them they could have waited until 2026 with Unicron.

I mean, had they done Primus now, what would be more special for them to do for the 50th?

I bet it will be a set of some kind, or maybe a new, more articulate and detailed G1 Fort Max. Scaled to MP size.

Besides, the Pulse listing said this won't ship until fall 2025 so it's not even the 40th anniversary.

It'll be another Optimus figure.

And an MP Fort Max? That's gonna be WAY bigger than Primus for Unicron and way more expensive. That'd be like man-sized.

I want a Masterpiece Peter Cullen Transformer.

[Till-all-R1]

I know I was a bit disappointed that it wasn't Primus,

A thought just crossed my mind. Maybe they're saving Primus for the 50th anniversary.

While it sounds neat, if I'm not dead by then I'll bee too old to care or unable to continue to afford said things like this. lol

Having said that, a version of Primus is certainly a more friendly retail option if it's just a Rodimus repaint. So I'd be fine with that within the next couple years.

Omega Prime just doesn't interest me in the slightest regardless of retail as a Commander and even less as a HasLab because it feels very plausible as a Retail release. When it comes to HasLab offerings I'm in the minority of expecting something bigger that just doesn't suit a store shelf such as Unicron, which is why I'd have been really keen on a Cybertron version of Primus.

And it's really that simple, make something I want and I'll buy it, make something I don't and I won't. Than again I'm also in the minority of only having watched a few TF shows, G1, Beast Wars and Beast Machines. On occasion I'll watch RID but it doesn't hold the same feels as G1 or BW for me.

Nothing wrong with Hasbro going this route as I'm sure plenty of people may want it who aren't as specific as I am, it merely saves me Money. And on that note, I hope the rest of the year is a little mire fruitful in what it is I'm after so I can put that $250 savings to good use later on. Otherwise it'll be a long slow and boring year for me if all I have to look forward to is Gears who isn't even on my top ten. lol

[DeathReviews]

M'eh. I'll pass on Omega Prime. I didn't have any investment in that series, so I feel no particular gravitation towards the figure. Wake me up when they make an announcement that they're doing more 86 Leader Snarl figures, or announcing 86 Leader Swoop...

[LinaNui]

These look so good. Backed them right away! Kind of disappointed they look to have the same engineering as the originals, but at least these look like they will hold together in combined modes.

I got the originals MISB last November for $260 and was so sad they would not stand up in omega prime mode. I can not wait to display this one on the shelf combined with the originals next to him.

I wonder if they would somehow be able to do the yellow version of prime? I had the legends scale one as a kid and would love to get it in this modern update. Maybe releasing him without magnus can get around some of the legal hoop holes?

[Grahf_]

Optimus looks great! Combined mode is awesome. Only 2 issues I can see. Does prime come with his smaller mode pistol? And the shoulder/head region of UM. It looks so bad. The more I stared at it, the more I saw a tiny head floating above drooped shoulders

I'm pretty sure they mentioned that Bluebolts was designed to fill in some of the hollow spots on Ultra Magnus. So it's possible that he'll fill in that shoulder/chest void in some way. Maybe his legs can go in there or something.

As for the pistol I could've sworn I seen it in his hand at one point but I can't find the picture but it might have been in the video. One of the pictures of the Super Mode with the combined feet on his shoulders as the rocket launchers has what looks to be his pistol on what used to be the speaker/battery box on his back though.

[o.supreme]

Besides, the Pulse listing said this won't ship until fall 2025 so it's not even the 40th anniversary.

I noticed that as well. I mean with Unicron, it was understandable why it would take 18+ months to get him in hand. VS and DS were only a one-year wait.

Now were back to at least 18 months probably before fans get Omega Prime in hand. I wonder if that's because there are several more successful Haslabs in development at the moment? As opposed to DS which came after multiple failures, so they had more "time to work" as it were.... I guess we should be glad those others failed, we'd still be waiting probably another 6 months for Deathsaurus.