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News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:52 pm

Motormaster sucked. The other stunticons were fine. I'd be perfectly happy if the eventual MM is CW compatible and makes a better torso so that I can stick my existing stunticons on him, grab an affordable Wildrider, and call it a day.

I saw someone say that they're going for an 18 inch scale a la CW Devastator and POTP Predaking because of the commander class and all I can say is, god I hope not. I'm reasonably sure given the limbs are deluxes that he'll be in scale with the other CW combiners, more or less, but who's to say.

News Credits: 9 · by **Sowndwave76** » Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:48 pm

I won't be surprised either way...
Personally, I wouldn't mind something new. When you stop and think that CW was out sometime around 2014-15, in a short couple years that's 8 years in the past.
I could see Hastak moving away from the mix and match CW system and focusing on making each team more unique. And I get that's not how the original toys were designed, but I think it's fair to say that that's not the aesthetic Hastak is ever going for moving forward (especially since that's basically what CW was).
Again, personally, if they were to make a really incredible Menasor, then I wouldn't care if each bot wasn't compatible with any other future combiners.

On the other hand, Hastak has to be aware that new combiner figures are going to sell just a bit better overall if they are compatible with the CW system...
I thought CW Dragstrip was kind of a weak link... There would be some out there that would buy just him IF he worked with that older system. Hell, there would be those who would buy all 4 limb figures but pass on the $90 Motormaster, and others who would get the new MM to use with their old CW limb figures.
Either/any way you look at it, Hastak could make more $$$ by using the CW system.
Some would probably argue Hastak may loose money if this isn't the case.
There are probably a lot who won't be willing to spend close to $200 for new Stunticons if they can't be mixed with CW figures.

Then there are those like me; unless the new Stunticons look really bad, I'm most likely all-in for all 5.
I even think I'd be good with having those guys as individuals if the combined form isn't stellar.
Since my 6 ER seekers are on all on one shelf, it could be pretty sweet to have Megatron, Soundwave, Legacy Blitzwing and the Insecticons displayed with the Stunticons.
But my gut says that if Hastak is committed to making a CC Motormaster, he and the others must be pretty on point... And with how good most ER, Kingdom, and SS86 figures have been I don't think that's a crazy assumption.

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:20 am

Mr.MicroMaster wrote:Wow there packing a lot into that forty minute panel time. I am very interested to see what the legacy figures look like.

Actually if I remember right thats about what the old Botcon pabels were is 40min

News Credits: 12 · by **Sentinel_Primal** » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:13 am

So, is there any chance we might see an IGN article that reveals maybe 2-3 Legacy figures ahead of the stream? Cause if memory serves, we saw an IGN article for Siege Prime and Sideswipe 2 days before the full reveal at the convention they used to announce it (my brain's telling me SDCC, but that's WAY too early)

News Credits: 42 · by **Autobot N** » Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:54 am

Sentinel_Primal wrote:So, is there any chance we might see an IGN article that reveals maybe 2-3 Legacy figures ahead of the stream? Cause if memory serves, we saw an IGN article for Siege Prime and Sideswipe 2 days before the full reveal at the convention they used to announce it (my brain's telling me SDCC, but that's WAY too early)

I think it was SDCC, that's when they showed off all of the Autobots and the Decepticons got the spotlight at NYCC

News Credits: 10 · by **sol magnus** » Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:46 am

Sentinel_Primal wrote:So, is there any chance we might see an IGN article that reveals maybe 2-3 Legacy figures ahead of the stream? Cause if memory serves, we saw an IGN article for Siege Prime and Sideswipe 2 days before the full reveal at the convention they used to announce it (my brain's telling me SDCC, but that's WAY too early)

They did it for Kingdom, so it's a distinct possibility.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:49 am

Sentinel_Primal wrote:So, is there any chance we might see an IGN article that reveals maybe 2-3 Legacy figures ahead of the stream? Cause if memory serves, we saw an IGN article for Siege Prime and Sideswipe 2 days before the full reveal at the convention they used to announce it (my brain's telling me SDCC, but that's WAY too early)

It was SDCC but not IGN

https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... dcc/41581/

News Credits: 42 · by **TF-fan kev777** » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:50 am

I'm a bit conflicted on the stunticons. The CW versions were good, but not great. I'm happy enough with the CW versions, but of all the CW combiners, Menasor is the weakest, so if they give us a better version, that will probably be enough for me to bite. If the arms and legs are not CW style interchangeable then at least that should guarantee that Wildrider and Dead End are different molds.

I wonder if we will end up seeing arm mode for Dragstrip this weekend. That would go a long way towards telling us whether there is any CW compatibility.

What I definitely don't care for is the 1 limb per wave release schedule. One of the best things about CW was getting a set of limbs all at once. Covid, Earthrise and Kingdom have taught me not to expect to see everything at retail, and not to count on pre-orders being available depending on what Hasbro decides is important to market.

by **Cybertron4Life** » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:29 pm

The ones that I’ll be getting are Blaster, Bulkhead, Iguanus, and probably Prime Arcee.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:19 am

https://www.ign.com/articles/new-transformers-generations-legacy-figure-line-announced-by-hasbro

New pics of Skids and... Bulkhead! What have they done to you?!

News Credits: 56 · by **o.supreme** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:23 am

Also, I'll let the experts determine... Is the Jurassic Park Jeep from the JP Crossover and Legacy Skids of similar tooling?

ok after looking at pics side-by-side that's a definite no.

News Credits: 42 · by **Autobot N** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:56 am

Both look pretty cool but I don't need them

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:01 pm

Courtesy of IGN, we now have reveals for two of the figures that are going to be shown this Friday along with the other wave 1 Transformers Legacy figures. The Bulkhead is giving us an idea that we should not expect toys accurate to the Prime show and this is more of a Generations/G1ified version of the character, as we had seen previously with RTS Lugnut. It is also rumoured that this mold will be used for a voyager Optimus Prime as well.

We also have deluxe Skids. The images are below for you to enjoy.

News Credits: 18 · by **Immortal Starscream** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:08 pm

Skids looks fantastic. curious about the energon axe thingy. not really feeling bulkhead. just not round enough imho. as for it being an optimus... Sumo Prime is that you?

by **SpaceEagle** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:10 pm

Wew, that Bulkhead doesn't look bad as a "G1" version.
Might consider what else that mould will offer us, though...

As for the Skids, FINALLY the g o o d Generations Skids I've been asking for. The alt mode is adorably cuboid, much better than the older Generations Skids imo.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:11 pm

Honestly, they both look like a pile of ass. So glad I didn't sell my Gen skids yet, man I would have regretted it.

Let's get to Bulkhead, that figure looks super simple for a voyager and while I can understand the use of fake parts, it looks really bad when you can see his fake wheels right there in truck mode

I also hate the overall look of the robot mode but I can understand the appeal of having G1ified versions of characters from other eras but since I have my own Prime collection, this is not needed. I will say this is making me **** scared about Knockout.

As for Skids, ooof, not great. Reeks of cheap corner cutting. Like that rectangle behind his head. It's not even incorporated into the design, it's just there as a lazy bit. The G1 toy didn't have that. And usually Hasbro is able to hide unflattering gaps in their product shots, but I guess that's not a possible task here.

Won't be getting either of these.

by **frogbat** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:12 pm

Skids looks great, thought would be a repaint of the jp jeep.. but this guy looks better.

Blkkhead… an interesting take and he looks pretty good and fun

the prob with bulkhead is that the og prime toy was awesome and really hard to improve on so I see why they went off on a tangent. Reminds me of earlier chug interpretations of g1 figures such as grapple and inferno.

News Credits: 11 · by **Munkky** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:17 pm

I see what they were trying to do with Bulkhead; a G1 reimagining with an "original" styled version of his Animated vehicle mode, plus the vehicle mode is invocative of Age of Extinction Hound, who is kind of like an exaggerated Michael Bay version of Prime Bulkhead. But I don't ;ike that box chest, and I probably would've preferred a more show accurate SUV mode. Either way I will still be getting Bulkhead. Skids looks pretty good, a perfectly fine non-IDW G1 Skids, plus I like that blue axe weapon.

News Credits: 18 · by **Immortal Starscream** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:18 pm

william-james88 wrote:Honestly, they both look like a pile of ass. So glad I didn't sell my Gen skids yet, man I would have regretted it.

Let's get to Bulkhead, that figure looks super simple for a voyager and while I can understand the use of fake parts, it looks really bad when you can see his fake wheels right there in truck mode

I also hate the overall look of the robot mode but I can understand the appeal of having G1ified versions of characters from other eras but since I have my own Prime collection, this is not needed. I will say this is making me **** scared about Knockout.

As for Skids, ooof, not great. Reeks of cheap corner cutting. Like that rectangle behind his head. It's not even incorporated into the design, it's just there as a lazy bit. The G1 toy didn't have that. And usually Hasbro is able to hide unflattering gaps in their product shots, but I guess that's not a possible task here.

Won't be getting either of these.

while I disagree with how skids looks, there is no comparison, the previous generations was leaps and bounds better, and will remain my go to skids on my shelf. this is great news for me, because so far it looks like I can avoid spending more money on toys for a little while :-D

unless I decide I need to build a certain throne from Tripple Takeover, in which case I may need to buy this Skids :twisted:

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:21 pm

The article states twice that this is supposed to be Prime Bulkhead. That is not Prime Bulkhead.

News Credits: 104 · by **Cyber Bishop** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:27 pm

I love Skids, instant buy for me. Screw the haters.

News Credits: 5 · by **Hokutron** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:27 pm

I really wish they had used pins on the hood piece so that you could at least angle those side flaps upward. That way Bulkhead would at least be more recognizable.

News Credits: 12 · by **Sentinel_Primal** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:28 pm

I'm gonna get Bulkhead, only because I don't want Hasbro to go "Well, guess they don't like Prime lulz". I'm not happy with how far removed he is, considering the only things that say "I'm Bulkhead" are the head, mace, and green color, but I guess it's better than nothing

by **Gearslide** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:31 pm

Bulkhead looks like someone was making a Bayverse Hound toy, and at the last minute said "Let's make it Bulkhead instead." Bizarre.

News Credits: 12 · by **Sentinel_Primal** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:31 pm

william-james88 wrote:Let's get to Bulkhead, that figure looks super simple for a voyager and while I can understand the use of fake parts, it looks really bad when you can see his fake wheels right there in truck mode

I think they're supposed to replicate spare tires that military trucks tend to have stored right there