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Autobot N wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

sol magnus wrote:I'll definitely be getting Legacy Blitzwing. I also think he's better than Titans Return in pretty nuch every way.

Every way except for height, which some people are still salty about for some reason.

This is what we deserve for complaining about scale for so long

The joys of lack of scale can still be had in the Cyberverse line. There, a deluxe arcee is the same size as deluxe megatron and deluxe grimlock.

Better tank but worse jet and robo modes than the TR version.

Pre-Siege I think my only real scale complain was a too small Starscream, Ironhide, and Ratchet. Everyone else was about right. Not perfect, mind, but "about right." For me Siege Jetfire was a pass because, even if it's toon accurate, he was just too tall. Leader Jetfire is just right.

My main scale nitpick is to have all cars be deluxe class. I hate mini cars. Mini bots, mini cons, micromasters, doesn't matter. I know, I'm very much in the minority here, but even as a kid I'd look at Bumblebee and just not get why he's so much smaller when he transforms into a car like everybody else.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Pre-Siege I think my only real scale complain was a too small Starscream, Ironhide, and Ratchet. Everyone else was about right. Not perfect, mind, but "about right." For me Siege Jetfire was a pass because, even if it's toon accurate, he was just too tall. Leader Jetfire is just right.

My main scale nitpick is to have all cars be deluxe class. I hate mini cars. Mini bots, mini cons, micromasters, doesn't matter. I know, I'm very much in the minority here, but even as a kid I'd look at Bumblebee and just not get why he's so much smaller when he transforms into a car like everybody else.

No, they did right by having Siege Jetfire be commander class. He's significantly larger than everyone else in the original cartoon and in the Netflix show. He's supposed to be a big dude. I love Siege Jetfire. He's freaking awesome.
As far as Legacy, you know who should be commander class? Dragon Megs! This is another case where height does matter. Megs grows in size by putting the original Megs spark inside him, so it makes sense for his toy to be larger than everyone else. He should be able to at least scale with POTP Optimal Optimus.

That's where "to me" comes in. I know he's huge in the cartoon. But he also doesn't share the screen with any combiners and, once more - in my eyes - he shouldn't be as tall as a combiner. It doesn't look right. I want him bigger than most bots, but smaller then combiners and old Leader hits that sweet spot.

I think I'm probably the kind of fan the recent stuff has been catering to in regards to scale - personally I don't like it when toys are just stupidly large for the sake of being stupidly large. Sure it was cool having Ultimate Bumblebee when I was wee youngster...but with space being a thing as an adult and preferring robots to feel more unique rather than all being forced to fit the same 5"/7"/9" height of their size class. I mean, heck, reminds me of good ol' G1 with specific sizes being such a hubbub - only this time it fees a LOT better rather than an assortment of bots at random sizes, el oh el.

Anyway, I still think this Blitz looks better than the TR version by a long shot, and the scale with his fellow recent bots feels right to me. "Leader Class" doesn't have to mean "has to be 9 inches", it can go into better things like accessories and articulation, something I care much more about than if he's as big as my cat. (Albeit, I'll still agree that the gauntlets seem rather silly until I can see what they're actually supposed to compliment. Looking like the Energon toyline's combiner fists, I still wonder if we'll be getting some kind of modern update on one of them? Who knows.)

Another reason I think this new Blitzwing looks better, specifically the bot mode, is because the proportions are way better…
The TR version basically has monkey arms… Not to mention the arm kibble…
The head is a bit too small as well compared to, almost everything else.
Also, it may look better in person, but the way the TR face is painted is very mehhh.

This is again an example of how, sure, the other versions have enough elements to look like Blitzwing.
But in terms of those looking like the G1 character model — which clearly enough people appreciate— they just don’t.

If I were into tanks, jets, and other vehicles, then yes the alt modes would matter more to me.
But being characters, for me, the bot mode (and in turn the appearances of the bot modes) are always far and away the more/most important in my eyes.

Again, I cannot wait to finally have this figure on one of my shelves!!

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote: Wish the jet mode was better, though, could it possibly be our worst jet mode of any figure ever?

I actually like the Broadside figure. It is so far from looking like anything real thanks to the clear wings that I can easily look at it and say "that's a space ship", and a big one at that making the mass shifting all the easier to swallow.

About Jetfire, I like both figures equally, one gives me the toy aesthetic while the other handles the cartoon. Too be fair I don't think combiners have ever been handled with proper scale in nearly any media, especially the original cartoon, there's too much mass shifting going on (but not as bad as the modern comics!). I think Siege Jetfire is the right size for scale compared to Devastator and Predaking and Omega Supreme, not so much the standard combiners.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote: Wish the jet mode was better, though, could it possibly be our worst jet mode of any figure ever?

I actually like the Broadside figure. It is so far from looking like anything real thanks to the clear wings that I can easily look at it and say "that's a space ship", and a big one at that making the mass shifting all the easier to swallow.

About Jetfire, I like both figures equally, one gives me the toy aesthetic while the other handles the cartoon. Too be fair I don't think combiners have ever been handled with proper scale in nearly any media, especially the original cartoon, there's too much mass shifting going on (but not as bad as the modern comics!). I think Siege Jetfire is the right size for scale compared to Devastator and Predaking and Omega Supreme, not so much the standard combiners.

Emerje

I'd really like to hear the '[un]official story' on what happend with Broadside. Considering there's some pretty easy 'fan-mode' swaps you can do to get a pretty propper jet... I just... feel like someone fumbled a ball somewhere.

SpikeyTigertron wrote:I'd really like to hear the '[un]official story' on what happend with Broadside. Considering there's some pretty easy 'fan-mode' swaps you can do to get a pretty propper jet... I just... feel like someone fumbled a ball somewhere.

Easy.
They asked the Hasbro photographer to come up with the jet mode and went along with that.

Except, it wouldn't have the locking tabs where it does. That's what confounds me. Someone officially ran with this oddly shaped ball lol.

Back to Legacy.... Having had Legacy Kickback in hand... I'm really torn with him. He does the job he's required to do... and it's not like his conversion was ever *involved* but... somehow it left me wanting.

Skids was actually a rather nice little awkward gem.

I picked up Iguanus in that Hasbro Pulse stock last week. He's pretty cool.



My intention with Core Class is generally to just get the ones that are 'in scale' with the larger figures, however, I can be convinced collecting the silly tech specs they put on the boxes. I was disappointed to see Iguanus didn't have one on his box only to be pleasantly surprised to see it on his instruction booklet*.



Here he is in motorcycle mode. He is sturdy enough, but he feels kind of loose in the limbs. Not sure if its my copy or all of them, but he's definitely one you don't want to be switching modes on a lot.



And here he is with his fellow G1 Decepticons from Wave 1 for scale purposes -



*I checked Legacy Silverstreak's instruction since he also didn't have a Tech Spec on his box and unfortunately there isn't one. Ironically, the Masterpiece version MP-18 Bluestreak has a bunch of ? for specs because he's from an alternate universe, so maybe that's what they're going for here.

I picked up Bulkhead last night and I was surprised that all the Bulkhead figures and the Buzz Silversteaks had NO plastic in their cut out windows!

I was out on this one but I wish the nimrod that decided this can get a nice slap to the back of their gourd. Like people are NOT going to reach in now and fiddle and touch these figures with no doubt unclean fingers ...I call BS 'nuff said!

Nemesis Destron wrote:I picked up Bulkhead last night and I was surprised that all the Bulkhead figures and the Buzz Silversteaks had NO plastic in their cut out windows!

I was out on this one but I wish the nimrod that decided this can get a nice slap to the back of their gourd. Like people are NOT going to reach in now and fiddle and touch these figures with no doubt unclean fingers ...I call BS 'nuff said!

This is going to be the new standard. I don't have the same concern, but you may want to start ordering online or regularly disinfecting toys with light cleaning. If it's any consolation, handling toys is a relatively low-risk illness vector compared to food or airborne viruses.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:I picked up Bulkhead last night and I was surprised that all the Bulkhead figures and the Buzz Silversteaks had NO plastic in their cut out windows!

I was out on this one but I wish the nimrod that decided this can get a nice slap to the back of their gourd. Like people are NOT going to reach in now and fiddle and touch these figures with no doubt unclean fingers ...I call BS 'nuff said!

This is going to be the new standard. I don't have the same concern, but you may want to start ordering online or regularly disinfecting toys with light cleaning. If it's any consolation, handling toys is a relatively low-risk illness vector compared to food or airborne viruses.

And it's not like it's totally new; Cyberverse has been doing that for the larger toys, and Rescue Bots are also out in the open air. They do say exposure helps with building immunity and prevent allergies

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:I picked up Bulkhead last night and I was surprised that all the Bulkhead figures and the Buzz Silversteaks had NO plastic in their cut out windows!

I was out on this one but I wish the nimrod that decided this can get a nice slap to the back of their gourd. Like people are NOT going to reach in now and fiddle and touch these figures with no doubt unclean fingers ...I call BS 'nuff said!

This is going to be the new standard. I don't have the same concern, but you may want to start ordering online or regularly disinfecting toys with light cleaning. If it's any consolation, handling toys is a relatively low-risk illness vector compared to food or airborne viruses.

And it's not like it's totally new; Cyberverse has been doing that for the larger toys, and Rescue Bots are also out in the open air. They do say exposure helps with building immunity and prevent allergies

Yeah well its a lame ass standard....I'm looking at you / .

It's just that great feeling that you bought something new....MISP knowing that you and only you had first touch besides those at the factory. Then the Eggheads go and pull this new standard with other peoples finger prints all over the exposed figure damnation!!!

Nemesis Destron wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:I picked up Bulkhead last night and I was surprised that all the Bulkhead figures and the Buzz Silversteaks had NO plastic in their cut out windows!

I was out on this one but I wish the nimrod that decided this can get a nice slap to the back of their gourd. Like people are NOT going to reach in now and fiddle and touch these figures with no doubt unclean fingers ...I call BS 'nuff said!

This is going to be the new standard. I don't have the same concern, but you may want to start ordering online or regularly disinfecting toys with light cleaning. If it's any consolation, handling toys is a relatively low-risk illness vector compared to food or airborne viruses.

And it's not like it's totally new; Cyberverse has been doing that for the larger toys, and Rescue Bots are also out in the open air. They do say exposure helps with building immunity and prevent allergies

Yeah well its a lame ass standard....I'm looking at you / .

It's just that great feeling that you bought something new....MISP knowing that you and only you had first touch besides those at the factory. Then the Eggheads go and pull this new standard with other peoples finger prints all over the exposed figure damnation!!!

So just buy leaders and commanders then, show your dislike by not buying the others.

Speaking of Commanders:
Got it off TFW, who got it off a South Korean barcode database/website.

That...is exciting.

sol magnus wrote:That...is exciting.

Very!!!!

Nemesis Primal wrote:Speaking of Commanders:

Motor.jpg

Master.jpg

Got it off TFW, who got it off a South Korean barcode database/website.

I'm willing to bet that means we'll see Motormaster Tuesday!

That's not real, that's not possible!

I'll believe it when I see it officially, we're not too far from April 1st after all and could be a late prank..

That said from what I can see of the cover art on the box it's gonna look Awesome and I can't wait!
I won't get them all but Motormaster was always my favorite, though I also like Dead End a little too.

JTPrime17 found Blitzwing's box from the same source as well: Which definitely (sadly) confirms that the tank protrusion is intentional and not mistransformed, but it also seems to indicate that there's a way to actually transform the gauntlets that the early review missed and maaaybe that the jet mode was also mistransformed? It's very small in this art, it's hard to tell, but I don't think I see big tank slabs sticking out the sides of the jet underbelly.

william-james88 wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:I picked up Bulkhead last night and I was surprised that all the Bulkhead figures and the Buzz Silversteaks had NO plastic in their cut out windows!

I was out on this one but I wish the nimrod that decided this can get a nice slap to the back of their gourd. Like people are NOT going to reach in now and fiddle and touch these figures with no doubt unclean fingers ...I call BS 'nuff said!

This is going to be the new standard. I don't have the same concern, but you may want to start ordering online or regularly disinfecting toys with light cleaning. If it's any consolation, handling toys is a relatively low-risk illness vector compared to food or airborne viruses.

And it's not like it's totally new; Cyberverse has been doing that for the larger toys, and Rescue Bots are also out in the open air. They do say exposure helps with building immunity and prevent allergies

Yeah well its a lame ass standard....I'm looking at you / .

It's just that great feeling that you bought something new....MISP knowing that you and only you had first touch besides those at the factory. Then the Eggheads go and pull this new standard with other peoples finger prints all over the exposed figure damnation!!!

So just buy leaders and commanders then, show your dislike by not buying the others.

Give it time. I predict soon everything will come in a windowless box and wrapped in tissue paper inside like we're seeing in some lines like Power Rangers.

Emerje

We have some really fun news for you. One of the bots fans are really hoping to see soon is Motormaster and Menasor. Well, we actually have the box art for Motormaster. We only see him in alt mode on the box, both as artwork and a pic of the actual toy. For those unaware, all rumours say that Motormaster's voyager sized robot mode is just made up of the cab portion of the alt mode, so the feet being fake kibble. The trailer becomes a base for Motormaster as well as the combiner's skeleton/frame on which all components latch on.

We also have images of the box of Blitzwing further proving that the shots you have seen of the tank are not mistransformed (at least not where it mattered to people). Ad there are images of Shaterred Glass Blaster as well, but the bot mode is really darkened. These images come from the Koreannet website.