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The next one is the Star Seeker line.-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:
Dramatic Capture Soundwave is dark blue.
So close... Maybe one day.
How about as the next Walmart Exclusive line? A line dedicated with Marvel Comics in their G1 printed comic books appearance? With these printed dots texture shading and everything?
That would be cool.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The next one is the Star Seeker line.-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:
Dramatic Capture Soundwave is dark blue.
So close... Maybe one day.
How about as the next Walmart Exclusive line? A line dedicated with Marvel Comics in their G1 printed comic books appearance? With these printed dots texture shading and everything?
That would be cool.
I think you might have left something out of the first half of this sentence. As is, it reads as an incomplete thought.Till-all-R1 wrote:It's too bad with all that reuse that they couldn't have simply tooled new Soundwave to include, that would have significantly swayed my considering the purchase of a 3-pk.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I think you might have left something out of the first half of this sentence. As is, it reads as an incomplete thought.Till-all-R1 wrote:It's too bad with all that reuse that they couldn't have simply tooled new Soundwave to include, that would have significantly swayed my considering the purchase of a 3-pk.
Emerje wrote:When I was talking about toy colors I wasn't looking at any one specific thing. For Shockwave it was the purple, the lighter Siege colors are closer to the cartoon than the darker "Capture" colors that look more toy accurate. For Megatron it really comes down the shininess, at best cartoon Megatron looked like a well polished gray, not the chrome appearance of the original and new figures. And for Soundwave, yes, the purple isn't toy accurate, but the use of metallic gold and silver instead yellow and gray like the cartoon feels specifically toy based.
Granted, animation limitations and all that, but I see what I see.
Emerje
Overcracker wrote:It may still be a G1 version with packed in cassettes to bump him up to Leader Class.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Overcracker wrote:It may still be a G1 version with packed in cassettes to bump him up to Leader Class.
The best move would be to have Machine Wars Soundwave out of the Doubledealer mold. For originality and for the entertainment value.
Overcracker wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Overcracker wrote:It may still be a G1 version with packed in cassettes to bump him up to Leader Class.
The best move would be to have Machine Wars Soundwave out of the Doubledealer mold. For originality and for the entertainment value.
It would be original.
I would expect a retooled Dreadwing / Skyquake into MW Starscream.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Overcracker wrote:It may still be a G1 version with packed in cassettes to bump him up to Leader Class.
The best move would be to have Machine Wars Soundwave out of the Doubledealer mold. For originality and for the entertainment value.
From everything I've seen of SIEGE Shockwave (and I've seen him in person as well as in photos), his purple doesn't really seem lighter - just bluer. Both the cartoon and the OG toy have a more reddish purple. And again, see the barrel color. SIEGE Shockwave has a purple gun mode barrel, cartoon has gray.Emerje wrote:When I was talking about toy colors I wasn't looking at any one specific thing. For Shockwave it was the purple, the lighter Siege colors are closer to the cartoon than the darker "Capture" colors that look more toy accurate.
I've always seen that as "the closest the cartoon could get". And I reiterate that the chrome looks way better than plain gray.Emerje wrote:For Megatron it really comes down the shininess, at best cartoon Megatron looked like a well polished gray, not the chrome appearance of the original and new figures.
Emerje wrote:And for Soundwave, yes, the purple isn't toy accurate,
...purple? Purple?! WHAT purple????Emerje wrote:purple
It's what I think of as additive cartoon accuracy, as opposed to reductive cartoon accuracy. It includes specific things the cartoon added (like head redesign, optics color, etc) and leans towards the cartoon's palette, but doesn't dumb down decals and metallic accents to match the cartoon's limits.Emerje wrote:but the use of metallic gold and silver instead yellow and gray like the cartoon feels specifically toy based.
Well, did you see that Soundwave has red eyes? That certainly isn't toy-based.Emerje wrote:Granted, animation limitations and all that, but I see what I see.
Emerje
It would have been odd, yeah, but I get why R1 wanted it - being a SIEGE retool with leftover transformation engineering therefrom inflicts some definite awkwardness on Netflix Soundwave, plus the tape door is barely big enough for purpose.Overcracker wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I think you might have left something out of the first half of this sentence. As is, it reads as an incomplete thought.Till-all-R1 wrote:It's too bad with all that reuse that they couldn't have simply tooled new Soundwave to include, that would have significantly swayed my considering the purchase of a 3-pk.
I think R1 means he wanted a completely new Soundwave mold, and not just a re-use of the Netflix mold.
Which would have been an odd thing to do, when the other 2 figures are existing molds.
It occurred to me there's something else it could be:Overcracker wrote:Also, there’s still that Legacy United Leader class Soundwave out there we know nothing about. It may still be a G1 version with packed in cassettes to bump him up to Leader Class.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:[It occurred to me there's something else it could be:Overcracker wrote:Also, there’s still that Legacy United Leader class Soundwave out there we know nothing about. It may still be a G1 version with packed in cassettes to bump him up to Leader Class.
If not G1, that does limit the possibilities of what it could be, as not many non-G1 Soundwaves could really work as Leader class. Probably just Machine Wars, Cybertron, and Prime.Sowndwave76 wrote:My gut is telling me this Soundwave won’t be a G1 version.
I think that next incarnation will be in SS86 to go along with these newer SS86 Cassetticons.
So if this L.U. figure isn’t G1, I don’t care what it is.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:From everything I've seen of SIEGE Shockwave (and I've seen him in person as well as in photos), his purple doesn't really seem lighter - just bluer. Both the cartoon and the OG toy have a more reddish purple. And again, see the barrel color. SIEGE Shockwave has a purple gun mode barrel, cartoon has gray.Emerje wrote:When I was talking about toy colors I wasn't looking at any one specific thing. For Shockwave it was the purple, the lighter Siege colors are closer to the cartoon than the darker "Capture" colors that look more toy accurate.
I've always seen that as "the closest the cartoon could get". And I reiterate that the chrome looks way better than plain gray.Emerje wrote:For Megatron it really comes down the shininess, at best cartoon Megatron looked like a well polished gray, not the chrome appearance of the original and new figures.The plain gray looks bland and boring on a physical toy.
Emerje wrote:And for Soundwave, yes, the purple isn't toy accurate,...purple? Purple?! WHAT purple????Emerje wrote:purple![]()
Whuh?
Where on this Soundwave is there any purple? Did you slip up and say the wrong color because you were distracted by Rumble in the screencap or something?
It's what I think of as additive cartoon accuracy, as opposed to reductive cartoon accuracy. It includes specific things the cartoon added (like head redesign, optics color, etc) and leans towards the cartoon's palette, but doesn't dumb down decals and metallic accents to match the cartoon's limits.[/quote]Emerje wrote:but the use of metallic gold and silver instead yellow and gray like the cartoon feels specifically toy based.
Well, did you see that Soundwave has red eyes? That certainly isn't toy-based.Emerje wrote:Granted, animation limitations and all that, but I see what I see.
Emerje
Sabrblade wrote:If not G1, that does limit the possibilities of what it could be, as not many non-G1 Soundwaves could really work as Leader class. Probably just Machine Wars, Cybertron, and Prime.Sowndwave76 wrote:My gut is telling me this Soundwave won’t be a G1 version.
I think that next incarnation will be in SS86 to go along with these newer SS86 Cassetticons.
So if this L.U. figure isn’t G1, I don’t care what it is.
Maybe EarthSpark too, but it's likely too soon for Hasbro to be considering Legacy toys of that series.
Yes. He was one of the larger Decepticons in the Prime cartoon. It's not the cartoon's fault that Hasbro decided to instead give him such a dinky Deluxe toy. It should have been at least a Voyager back then.Overcracker wrote:Sabrblade wrote:If not G1, that does limit the possibilities of what it could be, as not many non-G1 Soundwaves could really work as Leader class. Probably just Machine Wars, Cybertron, and Prime.Sowndwave76 wrote:My gut is telling me this Soundwave won’t be a G1 version.
I think that next incarnation will be in SS86 to go along with these newer SS86 Cassetticons.
So if this L.U. figure isn’t G1, I don’t care what it is.
Maybe EarthSpark too, but it's likely too soon for Hasbro to be considering Legacy toys of that series.
Prime? The tiny Drone Soundwave warrants a Leader Class figure?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Yes. He was one of the larger Decepticons in the Prime cartoon. It's not the cartoon's fault that Hasbro decided to instead give him such a dinky Deluxe toy. It should have been at least a Voyager back then.Overcracker wrote:Sabrblade wrote:If not G1, that does limit the possibilities of what it could be, as not many non-G1 Soundwaves could really work as Leader class. Probably just Machine Wars, Cybertron, and Prime.Sowndwave76 wrote:My gut is telling me this Soundwave won’t be a G1 version.
I think that next incarnation will be in SS86 to go along with these newer SS86 Cassetticons.
So if this L.U. figure isn’t G1, I don’t care what it is.
Maybe EarthSpark too, but it's likely too soon for Hasbro to be considering Legacy toys of that series.
Prime? The tiny Drone Soundwave warrants a Leader Class figure?
Sowndwave76 wrote:My gut is telling me this Soundwave won’t be a G1 version.
I think that next incarnation will be in SS86 to go along with these newer SS86 Cassetticons.
Overcracker wrote:TFPrimeSizeComparison.jpg
His robot mode is the rightmost one of that fanmade chart.-Kanrabat- wrote:Overcracker wrote:TFPrimeSizeComparison.jpg
Holy crap... Now I want a Titan Class Prime Predaking. Or should he be a HASLAB?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:His robot mode is the rightmost one of that fanmade chart.-Kanrabat- wrote:Overcracker wrote:TFPrimeSizeComparison.jpg
Holy crap... Now I want a Titan Class Prime Predaking. Or should he be a HASLAB?
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