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aronjlove wrote:What?!?! TR Triggerhappy new at a normal, retail price? Heck yeah!

It's He-said-Leaker-said currently but that seems to be the plan for the Retro Headmasters line. There's been no comments on the Targetmasters' decos/tooling or if they'll include the Legends Targetmasters (which would be a HUGE draw). I'd love to finally get my hands on a Misfire, any additions are pure bonuses.

There's speculation that the Jumpstarters will also be reissued, but I don't think that has any leaks supporting it. But I'd sure hope so, I'd love to get a Twintwist.

Nuclearxpotato wrote:Hasbro doesn't make money from secondary market, hence why they'll sometimes rerelease highly-sought figures (so they can get a piece of that pie). It's no coincidence that we got Counterpunch in the first GO pack available on Pulse and we're supposedly getting the TR Targetmasters in the Retro line... with a new G1 Ratchet supposedly coming in Legacy.

Again you are making a lot of assumptions based on rumors that may or may not happen. I wouldn't be surprised if in the next 2 years Hasbro finally finished the other 2 Autobot Targetmasters...but rereleasing the TR Deceptions? I don't know. In my experience I have to get an item I want when I can, because there will be no re release. They are more the exception than the norm.

Nuclearxpotato wrote:There's speculation that the Jumpstarters will also be reissued, but I don't think that has any leaks supporting it. But I'd sure hope so, I'd love to get a Twintwist.

That would be nice, I got Impactor recently, so between him, Magnus, Springer and possible Jumpstarter re-issues, I'd be close to a full original Wrecker line-up. New versions of Whirl and Roadbuster would versions nice too, because I missed out on the Thrilling 30 versions.

aronjlove wrote:

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

o.supreme wrote:TR Deluxe wave 5 goes for insane amounts on the secondary market, but to all the fans and scalpers who found them at Ollie's at bargain bin prices, was it a failure? Was it a failure to Hasbro that TRU closed in the U.S. causing major issues with where their product was supposed to go in the interim? We will never know.

Hasbro doesn't make money from secondary market, hence why they'll sometimes rerelease highly-sought figures (so they can get a piece of that pie). It's no coincidence that we got Counterpunch in the first GO pack available on Pulse and we're supposedly getting the TR Targetmasters in the Retro line... with a new G1 Ratchet supposedly coming in Legacy.

Figures never being stocked and moved to clearance retailers does not spell "success" to Hasbro. Platinum Edition died for a reason. It doesn't matter what circumstances affected the sales, it's the sales of the figures that are examined.

What?!?! TR Triggerhappy new at a normal, retail price? Heck yeah!

Triggerhappy?! Bump that, MISFIRE!

Sentinel_Primal wrote:As a side note, does anyone know if you can change the card on file for HasLab projects after they've been funded and still have your order? Or is it a situation of "Don't even think about touching it or you'll never see this figure again"?

Haslab charges your payment at the end of the sign-up period, before production even begins. There's no ability to change card between the sign-up and release because there's no need to. If you don't have the money at the end of the sign-up, that's when you have to back out.

alekese wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:As a side note, does anyone know if you can change the card on file for HasLab projects after they've been funded and still have your order? Or is it a situation of "Don't even think about touching it or you'll never see this figure again"?

Haslab charges your payment at the end of the sign-up period, before production even begins. There's no ability to change card between the sign-up and release because there's no need to. If you don't have the money at the end of the sign-up, that's when you have to back out.

Ah, okay. That's good to know

It'd be cool if eventually they do a commander class predacon Megatron with a dragon alt mode and robot mode that match his TM2 look at the end of beast wars, along with another robot mode resembling his look in beast machines by having the dragon wings convert into his "cloak" and having an opening for his arms. And the helmet can store in his chest or back or something when he's not in that mode. And then the cherry on top would be a 4th mode as Noble

Razorbeast88 wrote:It'd be cool if eventually they do a commander class predacon Megatron with a dragon alt mode and robot mode that match his TM2 look at the end of beast wars, along with another robot mode resembling his look in beast machines by having the dragon wings convert into his "cloak" and having an opening for his arms. And the helmet can store in his chest or back or something when he's not in that mode. And then the cherry on top would be a 4th mode as Noble

Actually, word on the street is that TM2 Megatron replaced Straxus as a Leader class figure next year.

Also that Minerva will be coming as a Walgreens exclusive

Autobot N wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:It'd be cool if eventually they do a commander class predacon Megatron with a dragon alt mode and robot mode that match his TM2 look at the end of beast wars, along with another robot mode resembling his look in beast machines by having the dragon wings convert into his "cloak" and having an opening for his arms. And the helmet can store in his chest or back or something when he's not in that mode. And then the cherry on top would be a 4th mode as Noble

Actually, word on the street is that TM2 Megatron replaced Straxus as a Leader class figure next year.

Also that Minerva will be coming as a Walgreens exclusive

Interestingggggg
Hopefully we still get a Straxus in later waves or something

Razorbeast88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:It'd be cool if eventually they do a commander class predacon Megatron with a dragon alt mode and robot mode that match his TM2 look at the end of beast wars, along with another robot mode resembling his look in beast machines by having the dragon wings convert into his "cloak" and having an opening for his arms. And the helmet can store in his chest or back or something when he's not in that mode. And then the cherry on top would be a 4th mode as Noble

Actually, word on the street is that TM2 Megatron replaced Straxus as a Leader class figure next year.

Also that Minerva will be coming as a Walgreens exclusive

Interestingggggg
Hopefully we still get a Straxus in later waves or something

In addition to that, the following has also been said:
-If Straxus is happening still, he might be based more on his current IDW design than his original design for some reason
-Voyager BW Inferno is coming (FINALLY)
-Jhiaxus is involved somehow, probably as a Voyager
-Two Core Class Pretender homages (NOT direct updates, the phrase homage was stressed specifically) are coming, possibly just based on the inner bots rather than incorporating any design elements from the shells

Nemesis Primal wrote:-Two Core Class Pretender homages (NOT direct updates, the phrase homage was stressed specifically) are coming, possibly just based on the inner bots rather than incorporating any design elements from the shells

Or, could they perhaps be redecos/retools on the POTP Prime Master Decoy Armor molds?

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:It'd be cool if eventually they do a commander class predacon Megatron with a dragon alt mode and robot mode that match his TM2 look at the end of beast wars, along with another robot mode resembling his look in beast machines by having the dragon wings convert into his "cloak" and having an opening for his arms. And the helmet can store in his chest or back or something when he's not in that mode. And then the cherry on top would be a 4th mode as Noble

Actually, word on the street is that TM2 Megatron replaced Straxus as a Leader class figure next year.

Also that Minerva will be coming as a Walgreens exclusive

Interestingggggg
Hopefully we still get a Straxus in later waves or something

In addition to that, the following has also been said:
-If Straxus is happening still, he might be based more on his current IDW design than his original design for some reason
-Voyager BW Inferno is coming (FINALLY)
-Jhiaxus is involved somehow, probably as a Voyager
-Two Core Class Pretender homages (NOT direct updates, the phrase homage was stressed specifically) are coming, possibly just based on the inner bots rather than incorporating any design elements from the shells

-ewwww hopefully not, I just looked it up and that design sucks. I was hoping he'd resemble the generations toy from awhile back
-thats greattttt I know a lot of people really wanted him. I'm a little on the fence about whether I want the character but I'll make the decision when I see him
-awesome! I like having evil scientists and he'll go nicely with Shockwave and Tarantulas. I didn't get deluxe jhiaxus from awhile back because the toy didn't seem too good and he looks like he should be a bigger character. Speaking of tarantulas I hope he's the TM version or not a remold of blackarachnia. If they gave him a realistic tarantula mode that'd be awesome too, even though wont be a part of kingdom
-hmmm core class is kind of a bummer. But still interesting enough

Man, I just want a Deathsaurus

Here's my (edited post related) predictions for this line:

- HasTak will focus on the Marvel/IDW era G1, Takara era G1, Beast era, and Prime era figures.
- Hasbro will fill in a few Japan exclusives for those who wanted Metalhawk, etc.
- TakaraTomy will use a portion (if not more) of this line to flesh out more of their G1 continuity.

That is all I can say (since I edited it because I liked my second reply).

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:It'd be cool if eventually they do a commander class predacon Megatron with a dragon alt mode and robot mode that match his TM2 look at the end of beast wars, along with another robot mode resembling his look in beast machines by having the dragon wings convert into his "cloak" and having an opening for his arms. And the helmet can store in his chest or back or something when he's not in that mode. And then the cherry on top would be a 4th mode as Noble

Actually, word on the street is that TM2 Megatron replaced Straxus as a Leader class figure next year.

Also that Minerva will be coming as a Walgreens exclusive

Interestingggggg
Hopefully we still get a Straxus in later waves or something

In addition to that, the following has also been said:
-If Straxus is happening still, he might be based more on his current IDW design than his original design for some reason
-Voyager BW Inferno is coming (FINALLY)
-Jhiaxus is involved somehow, probably as a Voyager
-Two Core Class Pretender homages (NOT direct updates, the phrase homage was stressed specifically) are coming, possibly just based on the inner bots rather than incorporating any design elements from the shells

Does anyone have a link to where all of this was first posted? The leak thread on TFW that gathered it all together has been gone for a while.

Munkky wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:It'd be cool if eventually they do a commander class predacon Megatron with a dragon alt mode and robot mode that match his TM2 look at the end of beast wars, along with another robot mode resembling his look in beast machines by having the dragon wings convert into his "cloak" and having an opening for his arms. And the helmet can store in his chest or back or something when he's not in that mode. And then the cherry on top would be a 4th mode as Noble

Actually, word on the street is that TM2 Megatron replaced Straxus as a Leader class figure next year.

Also that Minerva will be coming as a Walgreens exclusive

Interestingggggg
Hopefully we still get a Straxus in later waves or something

In addition to that, the following has also been said:
-If Straxus is happening still, he might be based more on his current IDW design than his original design for some reason
-Voyager BW Inferno is coming (FINALLY)
-Jhiaxus is involved somehow, probably as a Voyager
-Two Core Class Pretender homages (NOT direct updates, the phrase homage was stressed specifically) are coming, possibly just based on the inner bots rather than incorporating any design elements from the shells

Does anyone have a link to where all of this was first posted? The leak thread on TFW that gathered it all together has been gone for a while.

It's been sporadically posted throughout various threads by several leakers, it'd be hard to link to all of them.

Autobot N wrote:

Munkky wrote:Does anyone have a link to where all of this was first posted? The leak thread on TFW that gathered it all together has been gone for a while.

It's been sporadically posted throughout various threads by several leakers, it'd be hard to link to all of them.

Out of all the threads, most leaks at least seem to go through the "POST WFC-TRILOGY GENERATIONS TOYLINES SPECULATION" thread. I'd say to keep an eye on that one.

Nemesis Primal wrote:In addition to that, the following has also been said:
-If Straxus is happening still, he might be based more on his current IDW design than his original design for some reason
-Voyager BW Inferno is coming (FINALLY)
-Jhiaxus is involved somehow, probably as a Voyager
-Two Core Class Pretender homages (NOT direct updates, the phrase homage was stressed specifically) are coming, possibly just based on the inner bots rather than incorporating any design elements from the shells

From what I have been reading it sounds like Legacy will be a Studio Series-type line. At least where the Marvel/IDW G1 and Japanese G1 continuities are concerned.

Plus...

- "G1" Straxus would probably become a retool of "Kingdom" Galvatron if they choose to go that route.
- "BW" Inferno makes sense because the line opens up a lot of opportunities for them to finish up the remaining Beast Wars cast (as well as reissue those brought into the Kingdom sub-line).
- Jhiaxus could easily be based on his "Regeneration One" designs, which is my only guess for the character.
- If true, it sounds like they are also planning to revive the Pretenders sub-line as well.

For the portion involving the Pretenders... I will be surprised if there are no talks involving both Metalhawk and Bludgeon. (With reasons including the fact both were deputized leaders of their own factions.)

Then again... I am also starting to worry that the "Walgreens exclusive" Minerva figure is going to be the Headmaster Jr. version, and not the version appearing in the Wreckers mini-series.

Nemesis Primal wrote:-If Straxus is happening still, he might be based more on his current IDW design than his original design for some reason
-Voyager BW Inferno is coming (FINALLY)
-Jhiaxus is involved somehow, probably as a Voyager
-Two Core Class Pretender homages (NOT direct updates, the phrase homage was stressed specifically) are coming, possibly just based on the inner bots rather than incorporating any design elements from the shells

For Straxus if that's the case that isn't ideal, but also not unsalvageable, at least as far as swapping in a masked face for a repaint goes since the overall shape is there.

Yeah, I'll take an Inferno and a Selects Antagony while they're at it.

Jhiaxus had better be based on the G2 version!! Not crazy about him being a Voyager either. For me he'll always be the big bruiser that backhanded Prime's face off. No more skinny orange guys.



I'm guessing those Core class pretenders are just convenient repaints, like Bludgeon out of Megatron. That Megatron sucks, but if this happened at least Bludgeon would look good with the Flame Toys Bludgeon shell kit.

Emerje

So any credence to the rumor of a new Commander Class Prime for Legacy or some other line in the future?

I love PotP Prime because he's large.
And love Earthrise Prime because he's very detailed and close to G1.

So a Prime that mixes both of those things together would be great.

PotP is the first Prime that let me recreate the "In a word... Prime" scene from Beastwars. Something like that that has a nicer transformation and has all the features of a Prime for 80 - 100 bucks instead of $300 for the MP would be awesome.

Overcracker wrote:So any credence to the rumor of a new Commander Class Prime for Legacy or some other line in the future?

Last we heard, the rumored Commander class for Legacy was Motormaster.

Overcracker wrote:So any credence to the rumor of a new Commander Class Prime for Legacy or some other line in the future?

I love PotP Prime because he's large.
And love Earthrise Prime because he's very detailed and close to G1.

So a Prime that mixes both of those things together would be great.

PotP is the first Prime that let me recreate the "In a word... Prime" scene from Beastwars. Something like that that has a nicer transformation and has all the features of a Prime for 80 - 100 bucks instead of $300 for the MP would be awesome.

There were rumblings of a Commander Armada Optimus a while ago from what I remember, but it's been a while since I've heard anything regarding that.

Munkky wrote:

Overcracker wrote:So any credence to the rumor of a new Commander Class Prime for Legacy or some other line in the future?

I love PotP Prime because he's large.
And love Earthrise Prime because he's very detailed and close to G1.

So a Prime that mixes both of those things together would be great.

PotP is the first Prime that let me recreate the "In a word... Prime" scene from Beastwars. Something like that that has a nicer transformation and has all the features of a Prime for 80 - 100 bucks instead of $300 for the MP would be awesome.

There were rumblings of a Commander Armada Optimus a while ago from what I remember, but it's been a while since I've heard anything regarding that.

Yeah, I think the rumor of Prime would be the Armada one, or the suggestion/hope that Powermaster Prime/Super Ginrai is made as a Commander class figure to go with Star Saber. Nothing about a Commander class 1984 style Prime though

The Commander Armada Prime was speculation by non-leakers. The rumours have always been Commander Motormaster with four deluxe Stunticons spread throughout the waves.

Beyond that we know nothing about it, but hopefully Menasor doesn't look like the animation model...

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Munkky wrote:

Overcracker wrote:So any credence to the rumor of a new Commander Class Prime for Legacy or some other line in the future?

I love PotP Prime because he's large.
And love Earthrise Prime because he's very detailed and close to G1.

So a Prime that mixes both of those things together would be great.

PotP is the first Prime that let me recreate the "In a word... Prime" scene from Beastwars. Something like that that has a nicer transformation and has all the features of a Prime for 80 - 100 bucks instead of $300 for the MP would be awesome.

There were rumblings of a Commander Armada Optimus a while ago from what I remember, but it's been a while since I've heard anything regarding that.

Yeah, I think the rumor of Prime would be the Armada one, or the suggestion/hope that Powermaster Prime/Super Ginrai is made as a Commander class figure to go with Star Saber. Nothing about a Commander class 1984 style Prime though

I'd be all in on an Armada update. That would be awesome. Don't think I can transform my Prime's trailer now without having the gears strip or something breaking.

It's an almost 20 year old figure.

Don't think I need another PM Prime. I have the Takara Ginrai retool from CW version with God Bomber so I'm set with that.

An Armada Prime that can be retooled into a Star Convoy would be great.

Unless Motormaster looks like his G1 cartoon self, I'm not really that interested either. Also if they do do this, it would likely be CW compatible. The combination engineering is good, and it's not likely anything new would be substantially different to that. Also with all the combiners released in the last few years, do we really need to tap that well again so soon?