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Agreed. I think the Stunticons is more about completing a team than what era they are from. I've already stated many times I'm not getting them out of principle. But I fully admit they look better than UW/CW. If a box set does come down the line I may ca e, of not, no worries, I sry have my UW.
Also it's not like any of the toys are inherently bad choices. I don't plan to get them, but I think Prime Arcee,Bulkhead, Tarantulas, G2 Prime etc... All look great, and hope they keep the variety coming
Also it's not like any of the toys are inherently bad choices. I don't plan to get them, but I think Prime Arcee,Bulkhead, Tarantulas, G2 Prime etc... All look great, and hope they keep the variety coming
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o.supreme wrote:Also it's not like any of the toys are inherently bad choices. I don't plan to get them, but I think Prime Arcee,Bulkhead, Tarantulas, G2 Prime etc... All look great, and hope they keep the variety coming
While I am glad the toys exist for anyone who wants them and likes them, I will say that I am not fond of those Prime toys like Bulkhead, Arcee and Knock Out. The toys seem fine as toys, but interestingly, those are all molds I will surely experience through redecos or p/retools if I fid them more invoking of the character they represent. Because as the are now, I am not a fan. I liked Prime, I liked the toyline and the show, a lot. And I personally find it a disservice that we are now in an era where we can have toys that look like the show and the only era in Legacy that doesn't do that is for the Prime characters. The G2 characters look like their G2 selves, the BW characters also look like how they did on the show, and the whole point of this new Menasor is that they are going out of their way to be show accurate (which seems to be a gamble that paid off), leaving the Prime characters at odds. It's also odd that the listing specified them as coming from the Prime Universe (which at least for Bulkhead did need clarification) and yet they get the neo G1 treatment. And sure, I will concede that we do have a good enough show accurate Prime Arcee and Bulkhead to contend with in the past but that is not the case with Knock Out. All to say I wont be buying any of those toys.
Also, totally unrelated, but I was sad to hear that Kickback is a rather boring transformer toy. He was my most wanted one of wave 1.
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Hasbro gave us a legit surprise Tuesday when they showed us Red Cog for the first time, a toy that had no leaks. There was definitely some confusion regarding the toy, as in what it entailed in both terms of content and reference. Well the Hasbro designer, Mark, cleared up a lot of that. Firstly, this was not meant to represent Grand Maximus' partner but instead it is a troop builder, as seen on the Netflix show which also had a Red Cog, beefing up the Autobot troops. As a matter of fact, this release is built entirely around the Netflix show. It comes with a weapons pack of modular weapons, including Elita One's rifle from that same show AND it includes a gun made specifically to connect to Earthrise Arcee's back and recreate the scene when she uses Cog as a weaponiser.
Also, Mark makes a special mention to carefully inspect the contents of the box when you do get this exclusive Red Cog. The extra weapons are in a bag attached to the back and make sure you don't throw them out.







Also, Mark makes a special mention to carefully inspect the contents of the box when you do get this exclusive Red Cog. The extra weapons are in a bag attached to the back and make sure you don't throw them out.
Happy TF Tuesday everyone!! I hope you all have seen the reveal of Legacy Deluxe Target Exclusive Red Cog with weapons pack! I worked on this item with the great Hasui Shogo at Takara Tomy.
This character is inspired by the @netflix War for Cybertron series, where Red Cog appears in multiple episodes looking like an awesome autobot trooper. Before I tell you everything about the pack, I wanted to highlight this special weapon that comes in the pack.
In episode 5 season 1 of the WFC series Arcee and BB visits mercenary SoundBlaster carrying energon vials. You can see our Red Cog here comes with one of those, but it also accepts a 5mm post on each end to enhance blasters with energon fusion or just simply plug onto any 5mm posts across the line. Cant wait to see all the combinations everyone uses it for.
Okay, I just got sidetracked, back to the reason for the post!!! The peculiar looking handheld blaster featured in this post has an alternate reason for being, please swipe and see how you can finally upgrade your WFC deluxe Arcee with the Cog double blaster weaponizer mode featured in the show!!!
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It's also similar with Cybertron Metroplex. He has a little design deviations from his cartoon design that make him only about 75% cartoon-accurate instead of the much higher percentile that each of the non-Prime Legacy toys seen so far all appear to have. Granted, Metroplex's cartoon model was already so toy-accurate to the look of the original toy to begin with, so the only way Hasbro could have maintained his cartoon accuracy would have been for them to simply make an enlarged version of the same toy from 2006, but which they evidently didn't want to do, opting instead to make an all new toy with a design that's only mostly (but not completely) faithful a recreation of the look of the original toy.william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:Also it's not like any of the toys are inherently bad choices. I don't plan to get them, but I think Prime Arcee,Bulkhead, Tarantulas, G2 Prime etc... All look great, and hope they keep the variety coming
While I am glad the toys exist for anyone who wants them and likes them, I will say that I am not fond of those Prime toys like Bulkhead, Arcee and Knock Out. The toys seem fine as toys, but interestingly, those are all molds I will surely experience through redecos or p/retools if I fid them more invoking of the character they represent. Because as the are now, I am not a fan. I liked Prime, I liked the toyline and the show, a lot. And I personally find it a disservice that we are now in an era where we can have toys that look like the show and the only era in Legacy that doesn't do that is for the Prime characters. The G2 characters look like their G2 selves, the BW characters also look like how they did on the show, and the whole point of this new Menasor is that they are going out of their way to be show accurate (which seems to be a gamble that paid off), leaving the Prime characters at odds. It's also odd that the listing specified them as coming from the Prime Universe (which at least for Bulkhead did need clarification) and yet they get the neo G1 treatment. And sure, I will concede that we do have a good enough show accurate Prime Arcee and Bulkhead to contend with in the past but that is not the case with Knock Out. All to say I wont be buying any of those toys.
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Yeah that's right, Metroplex is faithfull too. So that means Legacy has 5 eras of Transformers and only 1 of them is a full reimagining, making it at odds with the rest.
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Only to an extent, though. Like I said, he still has some small deviations from his cartoon design that look to be mainly aesthetic differences rather than anything necessary.william-james88 wrote:Yeah that's right, Metroplex is faithfull too.
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Sabrblade wrote:Only to an extent, though. Like I said, he still has some small deviations from his cartoon design that look to be mainly aesthetic differences rather than anything necessary.william-james88 wrote:Yeah that's right, Metroplex is faithfull too.
Sure, I get you, but there's no debate to be had about which character this is representing. The deviations seem to be more detail, not really changing his look, at least not to the same extent. As obvious as I felt that Bulkhead was, there was a debate over who that toy was refencing, which is enough for me to label that toy as not being at all close to his cartoon model (which is exactly not the point of that toy).
But you made me think of something with metroplex. Sure, there is some deviations, but he gets a lot of love in that dedicated mold. As does Jihaxus, and as does G2 Prime (and so will "RID Scourge" when he comes out) and so does Tarantulas. They all have these dedicated molds. Those "Prime-verse" toys don't. What I mean is that Knock Out while he may be a G1ified version, that mold choice is more opportunistic than one specifically made for a G1-ified version of him. We can compare that with Lugnut back in the day which was a dedicated mold to a new version of that character. That "Prime" Arcee mold will probably look more at home with another bot wearing it and we'll see about Bulkhead.
That's just an extra angle to it that make these Prime characters feel more apart from the rest of this line. They are exactly like the Botcon toys of old where you repurpose molds onto different characters to give a new version of said characters (like that whole Cybertron beast Wars set (sorry to bring it up, it's just the best example I had)).
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On the flipside, Arcee and Knock Out's altmodes do both look show-accurate, if just a big more angular than how rounded they originally were.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Only to an extent, though. Like I said, he still has some small deviations from his cartoon design that look to be mainly aesthetic differences rather than anything necessary.william-james88 wrote:Yeah that's right, Metroplex is faithfull too.
Sure, I get you, but there's no debate to be had about which character this is representing. The deviations seem to be more detail, not really changing his look, at least not to the same extent. As obvious as I felt that Bulkhead was, there was a debate over who that toy was refencing, which is enough for me to label that toy as not being at all close to his cartoon model (which is exactly not the point of that toy).
But you made me think of something with metroplex. Sure, there is some deviations, but he gets a lot of love in that dedicated mold. As does Jihaxus, and as does G2 Prime (and so will "RID Scourge" when he comes out) and so does Tarantulas. They all have these dedicated molds. Those "Prime-verse" toys don't. What I mean is that Knock Out while he may be a G1ified version, that mold choice is more opportunistic than one specifically made for a G1-ified version of him. We can compare that with Lugnut back in the day which was a dedicated mold to a new version of that character. That "Prime" Arcee mold will probably look more at home with another bot wearing it and we'll see about Bulkhead.
That's just an extra angle to it that make these Prime characters feel more apart from the rest of this line. They are exactly like the Botcon toys of old where you repurpose molds onto different characters to give a new version of said characters (like that whole Cybertron beast Wars set (sorry to bring it up, it's just the best example I had)).
It's only Bulkhead who looks completely inaccurate no matter what mode he's in, with his robot head being the only thing that's recognizably "Bulkhead" in design.
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Mmmm…. Nope. None of that Red Cog stuff makes we want to pick up a copy of ER/Kingdom Arcee. Or Red Cog for that matter. The Fossilizers are a lot more fun to mess with than the weaponizers, IMO….
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It still puzzles me that the Wingfinger mold never got a Selects release recolor as a Predacon
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"Bad figure" is purely your opinion. In my opinion (and a great many others that I've seen and spoken with) this is a superb Galvatron figure. I'm super happy with both the original and selects versions I have. The ONLY possible problem is I do wish he was roughly the same size as Megatron.
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Big Grim wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:Avoid buying a bad figure in the first place.
"Bad figure" is purely your opinion. In my opinion (and a great many others that I've seen and spoken with) this is a superb Galvatron figure. I'm super happy with both the original and selects versions I have. The ONLY possible problem is I do wish he was roughly the same size as Megatron.
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That's fine, some think RED galavatron or even TR is superior. I'm not happy myself with buying a two form tripple changer that needs upgrades to make one mode look good whilst the only alt mode still is a bit meh. Saves me money at end of the day. I wasnt even fully happy with fanstoys or DX9 Galvy but I'm just picky like that. I think I actually prefer SCF Galvatron or Ehobby G1 reissue as my favourite G1 galvatrons. RED would be up there apart from the cannon, swicthing that for transparent with out the end nubbin plus a new head and it would likely be first.
As for Arcee, couldnt she already weaponise (admittedly not per show) through her gaping feet holes? TK Maxx keeps trying to sell her by alternating her in boys/girls ailses to no joy. Last I looked they had put her in both. Maybe Red Cog can get a few more of her sold.
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Sabrblade wrote:On the flipside, Arcee and Knock Out's altmodes do both look show-accurate
Man, tell me about it, that makes even less sense to me. It feels like getting slapped in the face as a consolation prize.
DeathReviews wrote:Mmmm…. Nope. None of that Red Cog stuff makes we want to pick up a copy of ER/Kingdom Arcee. Or Red Cog for that matter. The Fossilizers are a lot more fun to mess with than the weaponizers, IMO….
Doesn't surprise me that Death would preffer the gimmick dealing with bones of the dead.
I too preffer the fossilizers as a gimmick. It was a well executed new concept from Hasbro. I will be combining some together to form Konchu from the Moonknight series.
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william-james88 wrote:I too preffer the fossilizers as a gimmick. It was a well executed new concept from Hasbro. I will be combining some together to form Konchu from the Moonknight series.
That's brilliant, now I'm mad that I only got the brightly colored redecoes for ones where they reused the mold. At the time, I thought I'd be bored with just ... bone-colored.
I do have Wingfinger, though, and he's the most important part, maybe I'll need to do a custom with a Marvel Legends base.
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At the risk of rehashing old arguments, I think it's clear that Bulkhead takes more design cues from Animated Bulkhead and Movie Hound than Prime Bulkhead, even if the character name references Prime. From a G1 perspective, I think it's a great toy, with unique alt- and robot-modes, and cool transformation and play features.
Unfortunately, I don't think any Generations SUV toy would live up to the Prime releases, and those are likely to remain pricey on eBay in the near future. I should probably sell my RID one since I'm so happy with the Legacy toy, but it does still have charm.
Unfortunately, I don't think any Generations SUV toy would live up to the Prime releases, and those are likely to remain pricey on eBay in the near future. I should probably sell my RID one since I'm so happy with the Legacy toy, but it does still have charm.
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I like the idea of using wingfinger as Khonshu as well, and using the fossilizers are armor for moon knight. I guess for now I'll armor up Punch/Counterpunch but id prefer to use a 3-faced blitzwing in the future
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Razorbeast88 wrote:I like the idea of using wingfinger as Khonshu as well, and using the fossilizers are armor for moon knight. I guess for now I'll armor up Punch/Counterpunch but id prefer to use a 3-faced blitzwing in the future
Ooouuu, pretty smart there with that reference.
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william-james88 wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:I like the idea of using wingfinger as Khonshu as well, and using the fossilizers are armor for moon knight. I guess for now I'll armor up Punch/Counterpunch but id prefer to use a 3-faced blitzwing in the future
Ooouuu, pretty smart there with that reference.
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blackeyedprime wrote:I wasnt even fully happy with fanstoys or DX9 Galvy but I'm just picky like that. I think I actually prefer SCF Galvatron or Ehobby G1 reissue as my favourite G1 galvatrons.
I really like Fanstoys "Sovereign" and they're FINALLY doing him in toy colours, so I may well cave on him. The DXP one looks "okay" but I'm reasonably picky with my purchases these days. The EHobby G1 Galvatron reissue from years ago was splendid. What the SCF Galvatron, sorry? I'm not 100% up on the abbreviations.
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Exclusive Legacy Beast Wars Repaints Found at US Walmart
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Looks like you'll be seeing something new on shelves at Walmart. The trio of deluxe exclusive redecos from the Kingdom line, now released as Transformers Legacy exclusives, have been found at Walmart. Those include Sandstorm, Buzzsaw and Nightprowler. The image below comes from a Walmart in Connecticut and was reported on redditt. They are 22.97, so the price point before the recent increases.
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Super Collection Figure.Big Grim wrote:What the SCF Galvatron, sorry? I'm not 100% up on the abbreviations.
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Just an honest question here for members outside of the United States...Do you all just laugh at seeing how sloppy U.S. Walmarts look, or does it just not phase anyone anymore? Occasionally I still will try to tidy up the section of stores I visit, but sometimes when Its just so obvious, no care is given, I just walk away.
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Wish List of Modern Combiners: Road Caesar, Monstructor & Dinoking (proper size to fiction), Landcross, Guard City, Battle Gaia, & G2 Defensor. Wish List of Titans:Metrotitan,Majin Zarak
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion
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o.supreme wrote:Just an honest question here for members outside of the United States...Do you all just laugh at seeing how sloppy U.S. Walmarts look, or does it just not phase anyone anymore? Occasionally I still will try to tidy up the section of stores I visit, but sometimes when Its just so obvious, no care is given, I just walk away.
I haven't seen enough pictures of U.S. Walmarts to have an opinion on that. But the picture William newsed doesn't look THAT bad.
I'm usually more taken aback by how either oversized, barren or ugly the shelves look.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion
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o.supreme wrote:Just an honest question here for members outside of the United States...Do you all just laugh at seeing how sloppy U.S. Walmarts look, or does it just not phase anyone anymore?
It's not like my Walmart looks any better

I gotta say though, while my Walmart may have more stuff, that Connecticut Walmart is pretty good at having more up to date items.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion
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That actually looks pretty clean by comparison, or did you clean it up for the photo

Bucket/Want List: Botcon 2016 Customization Class Ratchet (G2 Deco), or Customization Class Ratchet (Marvel Comics Deco) **would also be willing to pay for an Unpainted Botcon 2016 Ratchet, TT Legends Fortress Head (only) with working Electronics
Wish List of Modern Combiners: Road Caesar, Monstructor & Dinoking (proper size to fiction), Landcross, Guard City, Battle Gaia, & G2 Defensor. Wish List of Titans:Metrotitan,Majin Zarak
Wish List of Modern Combiners: Road Caesar, Monstructor & Dinoking (proper size to fiction), Landcross, Guard City, Battle Gaia, & G2 Defensor. Wish List of Titans:Metrotitan,Majin Zarak
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