o.supreme wrote:Normally I'd say closed box. Online there's less chance of tampering than in store, but since Hasbro went super cheap, neither is really a good option. The packaging for Legacy Leaders is still somewhat decent, but SS leader cardboard is almost paper thin and flimsy. Many stores in my area ( both Walmart and Target) have a glut of Coronation Starscream. Even at half of,many of the tape back is straight up peeling off, so you can't tell if it's been tampered with or not, so people are reluctant to purchase them.
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I personally don't think Beast combiners need to be combiner wars height. I would be OK if they were say SS86 Dinobot sized in height with the bulk of someone like Blitzwing. What matters is they are bigger than the other beasts in height and bulk, though the bulk matters much more than the height.
Yes, I know that. I'm well aware Skids is a Honda City. I was just pointing out why it looks similar to a Yugo.Overcracker wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:It's because they're both box-body subcompact hatchbacks. It's like how the Fiat 500 and VW beetle look similar because they're both round-body rear-engine subcompacts, only moreso because of the hatchbacks having such no-frills coachwork.Overcracker wrote:First-Aid wrote:Skids looks like a Yugo.
I think I just dated myself....
Technically it looks like a 1980's Honda City. Admittedly the Honda City is similar to the Yugo.
Yes, but the point being, Skids original toy was a Honda City. So his current toy looks like that first and foremost.
It's just coincidental that it also looks like a Yugo because they are similar cars.
AcademyofDrX wrote:If they cut the triple changer aspect, they could probably release them at Voyager class. I really like Rampage's tank mode, but Depth Charge's is pretty terrible, and I would accept that sacrifice if it made them easier to do.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Also note: All Transmetals were Triplechangers.
Ultra Markus wrote:i would rather they go back to the plastic window at least for the security of it
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
william-james88 wrote:I personally (and I am talking as a kid who grew up with these) always looked at that "third mode" as more of an extra gimmick for the beast mode, never as an actual third mode you'd associate with a triple changer. It's a third mode, sure, but doesn't really make them triple changers. More like a secondary mode for the beast mode.
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, Rampage was the only Transmetal whose Vehicle Mode was really involved enough to be worth calling an actual third mode.
Though, Optimal Optimus's two vehicle modes weren't that involved either, but he at least had the wings, wheels, and cockpit to make them look convincing enough since, unlike every other Transmetal 1, his Beast Mode wasn't given as high a priority. Arguably the Jet Mode was given the most priority of his three altmodes.
More like "rat to rat-with-wheels" and "wasp to wasp-eating-a-jet-nose-with-its-wings-folded-in-half-pretending-to-look-like-a-jet-fighter".AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Rattrap went from Rat to car. Non-show TM Waspinator went from Wasp to Jet Fighter.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:More like "rat to rat-with-wheels" and "wasp to wasp-eating-a-jet-nose-with-its-wings-folded-in-half-pretending-to-look-like-a-jet-fighter".AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Rattrap went from Rat to car. Non-show TM Waspinator went from Wasp to Jet Fighter.
Sabrblade wrote:More like "rat to rat-with-wheels" and "wasp to wasp-eating-a-jet-nose-with-its-wings-folded-in-half-pretending-to-look-like-a-jet-fighter".AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Rattrap went from Rat to car. Non-show TM Waspinator went from Wasp to Jet Fighter.
With Rampage, his tank mode even managed to alter the claws convincingly enough that they no longer looked immediately like crab claws.
Don't forget Terrorsaur. Just straighten his wings, open his butt, and you're done.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:To me there were only two Transmetals that fell flat with their third mode - Rhinox and Airazor. From Bird to pontoon plane was just weird. It's such a level of redundancy, like that triplechanger (jet to helicopter) that didn't make it into the Transformers line.
Rhinox, was just a mess. I would have liked to see the bot mode in the show. But that altmode will forever be a WTF?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Don't forget Terrorsaur. Just straighten his wings, open his butt, and you're done.
He's supposed to be a VTOL aircraft.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The fold out flaps on the biceps still make little sense to me though.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:He's supposed to be a VTOL aircraft.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The fold out flaps on the biceps still make little sense to me though.
To expose the VTOL fans.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:He's supposed to be a VTOL aircraft.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The fold out flaps on the biceps still make little sense to me though.
I get that. But what is the point to them just poking forward, in the third mode?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:To expose the VTOL fans.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:He's supposed to be a VTOL aircraft.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The fold out flaps on the biceps still make little sense to me though.
I get that. But what is the point to them just poking forward, in the third mode?
That was it. The flaps covered the fans to hide them in beast mode, fold them over to reveal the fans for vehicle mode. It ain't rocket science.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:To expose the VTOL fans.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:He's supposed to be a VTOL aircraft.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The fold out flaps on the biceps still make little sense to me though.
I get that. But what is the point to them just poking forward, in the third mode?
After that.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:That was it. The flaps covered the fans to hide them in beast mode, fold them over to reveal the fans for vehicle mode. It ain't rocket science.
AcademyofDrX wrote:To put it another way:
- I would like more Transmetals in Generations, especially Rampage and Depth Charge
- Some TM vehicle designs like Rampage and Tarantulas are cool, most are not
- Triple changers add complexity and would likely bump the scale up
- In a hypothetical bargain with Hasbro, I would ask them to drop the vehicle modes overall and just release at Voyager class (for Depth Charge and Rampage) or smaller (in the unlikely event we get anyone else)
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:To add to that. What would be really nice, if they genuinely did something with the Triplechangers. A line, a series, something. IDW skirted the idea completely. But it's a really cool and unique set of Transformers. If the combiners can get Titans Return. Surely they could give the tri-formers some specific push?
AcademyofDrX wrote:I like the idea, but it could be hard to implement at all classes. CW didn't do much at leader class, and WfC had inconsistent application, but triple changers seem particularly challenging at all sizes.
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