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Sabrblade wrote:Thundertron...

Boy, a whole decade later and Hasbro is still trying to promote the character that most of the fandom simply does not care about at all.

I mean I think he's a cool toy and I eagerly got him in 2012, despite not knowing who he was except "he's in a book I haven't read" (still haven't). If they would USE HIM in something so I could get excited about that, I'd like him all the more.

Sabrblade wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Overcracker wrote:LDR Prime is almost certainly the Armada Prime the teased in the Legacy poster.

These listings are for 2024. Armada Prime is 2023. And Commander class.

Ahh, my mistake. Good to know.


So two more Primes in 2024, in that case what other Prime are we expecting the Leader figure to be>

It's apparently a rerelease of the current G2 Laser Optimus figure since it's labeled as "Legacy EV" (like the current Legacy figures) instead of "Legacy UNI" (like the 2024 ones in this list).

It 100% is NOT a Laser Prime rerelease, it has a different EAN when compared to Laser Prime (and when compared to the listing we already have for 2023's Laser Prime repack).

Also, in case anyone forgot (because I definitely did and had to go back to check myself), all we currently know about the capsule/exclusive line that G2 Grimlock is going to is that it contains 2 Leaders (counting Grim), a Voyager, and 5 Deluxes, one of which is a repack/PR.

I wonder if the Optimus figure is the retail version of the Holiday Prime mold? That figure seems to have a confusing history, maybe they're sticking to an original unused computer listing (hence being EV instead of UNI) and just updated the EAN number?

Emerje

I have no idea in what thread should I post this, but here it is.

Someone already have their hands on the Holidays Optimus Prime and she posted a video that show off the toy and it's transformation.
It looks amazing!



Let's hope this means the preorders will finally come through soon.

The Holiday Prime figure was originally the Amazon Prime figure.

A bit late to the party on those 2024 leaks, but I still wanted to comment on it. So far I'm excited, sign me up for a Tigerhawk, Silverbolt and Animated Optimus, I may even get Thundertron if he's done well. If past "Leader" triple-changers are anything to go by I can see a lot of people being disappointed with Sandstorm, I can't see it being as good as the Thrilling 30 version. I'm guesing that other Leader Optimus will either be another re-release of the Earthrise toy, or a repaint of Holiday Optimus without the Christmas theming. I'll be interested to see what it looks like if it's the latter.

In case this helps some UK fans out there, Transformers Legacy Wave 3 is out at UK retail. cynw32618 found them at Smyths. That includes the 4 deluxes and 2 voyagers (Armada Starscream and Beast Wars Inferno)

American fans will notice a Cosmos on the shelf just chilling and that's a common sight across Smyths stores in Europe since they received solid cases.

Yeesh, why did the UK get so dang MANY Cosmos figures, and the US got next to none? And why doesn't Hasbro just own up to their mistake, make MORE Cosmos figures, and give them to the areas that got stiffed?

DeathReviews wrote:Yeesh, why did the UK get so dany MANY Cosmos figures, and the US got next to none? And why doesn't Hasbro just own up to their mistake, make MORE Cosmos figures, and give them to the areas that got stiffed?

For the same reasons that apply to every single toys ever produced. Crappy distributions and corporate shenanigans.

Still, some popular toys DO get reissued like Commander Jetfire and Skylinx. So we never know.

DeathReviews wrote:Yeesh, why did the UK get so dany MANY Cosmos figures, and the US got next to none? And why doesn't Hasbro just own up to their mistake, make MORE Cosmos figures, and give them to the areas that got stiffed?

Walmart wanted one Cosmos per case because their toy people didn't think the green UFO would sell as much as the red bike, the black tow truck, or whatever Blurr is. The solid cases of Cosmos are evidently available to Walmart but they aren't buying them. For whatever reason, Europe is. Hasbro ships what people order.

King Kuuga wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:Yeesh, why did the UK get so dany MANY Cosmos figures, and the US got next to none? And why doesn't Hasbro just own up to their mistake, make MORE Cosmos figures, and give them to the areas that got stiffed?

Walmart wanted one Cosmos per case because their toy people didn't think the green UFO would sell as much as the red bike, the black tow truck, or whatever Blurr is. The solid cases of Cosmos are evidently available to Walmart but they aren't buying them. For whatever reason, Europe is. Hasbro ships what people order.

This^

Out of all the discounted Velocitron stuff Zavvi got for black friday they got zero Cosmos so he cant be that plentiful, even here. I've not seen any at Smyths in a looong while probbaly due to them all bought by people trying to fleece others on ebay.

Walmart wanted one Cosmos per case because their toy people didn't think the green UFO would sell as much as the red bike, the black tow truck, or whatever Blurr is.

Well, they were WRONG - as usual. There are tons of Road Rockets, Blurrs and Burn Outs languishing on shelves, and no Cosmos at all! Bah, curses, boo hiss and FIE!

King Kuuga wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:Yeesh, why did the UK get so dany MANY Cosmos figures, and the US got next to none? And why doesn't Hasbro just own up to their mistake, make MORE Cosmos figures, and give them to the areas that got stiffed?

Walmart wanted one Cosmos per case because their toy people didn't think the green UFO would sell as much as the red bike, the black tow truck, or whatever Blurr is. The solid cases of Cosmos are evidently available to Walmart but they aren't buying them. For whatever reason, Europe is. Hasbro ships what people order.

The solid cases aren't available in the sense that they were made and Walmart didn't want them, but in the sense that if Walmart ordered them Hasbro would have made them. The Transformers team at Hasbro were surprised to find out the solid cases existed, they were only aware of the Walmart case mix, it's purely an international Hasbro thing.

Emerje

DeathReviews wrote:

Walmart wanted one Cosmos per case because their toy people didn't think the green UFO would sell as much as the red bike, the black tow truck, or whatever Blurr is.

Well, they were WRONG - as usual. There are tons of Road Rockets, Blurrs and Burn Outs languishing on shelves, and no Cosmos at all! Bah, curses, boo hiss and FIE!

I mean yeah if I was the one in charge I would've at least swapped Cosmos with Burnout re: 2 vs 1. I'm not gonna deny it's a weird decision by WM, but a lot of these decisions are made by people who see trends without being personally invested in all the brands they have to order for.

Emerje wrote:

King Kuuga wrote:Walmart wanted one Cosmos per case because their toy people didn't think the green UFO would sell as much as the red bike, the black tow truck, or whatever Blurr is. The solid cases of Cosmos are evidently available to Walmart but they aren't buying them. For whatever reason, Europe is. Hasbro ships what people order.

The solid cases aren't available in the sense that they were made and Walmart didn't want them, but in the sense that if Walmart ordered them Hasbro would have made them. The Transformers team at Hasbro were surprised to find out the solid cases existed, they were only aware of the Walmart case mix, it's purely an international Hasbro thing.

Emerje

Thanks for the additional insight!

william-james88 wrote:Tra Gen Legacy EV LDR Optimus
EAN: 5010996192141

Overcracker wrote:So two more Primes in 2024, in that case what other Prime are we expecting the Leader figure to be?

Energon?
Prime?
New G1?

Something else?

*Prays in *
https://youtu.be/dSNBMmZhN60

$29.99 at a Target in Knoxville, TN.

Good find!

I really like that sharp red on him, but honestly, going by previews, I think the original is still superior. The only thing this one has over that is the back folds down.

Oh hey that individual with the early copies of the RotB Airazors and Battletrap posted pics of Legacy Medix-wait, Legacy Medix?
...when they said that anything was on the table for Legacy I guess they weren't kidding. It's not quite the Crankcase retool I was hoping for (that would be Ironfist), but it looks good to me. Maybe Heatwave from Bulkhead next somehow please?
Source (w/ more pics): https://www.facebook.com/SonicBomberCore

Interesting, a possible exclusive for the likes of Velocitron?

Nice enough repaint but an easy pass unless it's a multi pack with something I'd actually want.

So Tigerhawk, I can kind of see the logic. He was the counterpart to Dragon Megs in the TM2 line. But why Silverbolt? Surely not just pandering to the BA/Silverbolt crowd??

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So Tigerhawk, I can kind of see the logic. He was the counterpart to Dragon Megs in the TM2 line. But why Silverbolt? Surely not just pandering to the BA/Silverbolt crowd??

To stop new fans having to track down the original.

ZeroWolf wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So Tigerhawk, I can kind of see the logic. He was the counterpart to Dragon Megs in the TM2 line. But why Silverbolt? Surely not just pandering to the BA/Silverbolt crowd??

To stop new fans having to track down the original.

I guess so.



I never owned him, but I heard he was one of the better Fuzor figures.

He was brilliant, and it will be interesting to see what they do with him other than quality of life improvements like ankle tilts etc