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Rodimus Prime wrote:Magnus is just a rumor, but who else could be commander-sized in SS86? A proper Astrotrain maybe?

I'm definitely intrigued by the Nemesis, hopefully they will give him an intimidating, menacing robot mode.

Word on the street is that the Nemesis is a her.

I'm more interested in those collab and select listing like the $299.99 one. I know there's been rumours of the guardian robot coming from Siege Omega but could they be adding anything else?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Magnus is just a rumor, but who else could be commander-sized in SS86? A proper Astrotrain maybe?

I'm definitely intrigued by the Nemesis, hopefully they will give him an intimidating, menacing robot mode.

Word on the street is that the Nemesis is a her.

If the bot mode actually have a feminine appearance and is not just a "her" for clout-points, I'll be all for it.

I'll be able to ship both ships together!

It wouldnt be for Clout points, regardless, as Nemesis is a female name. And ships tend to be gendered female in English (more a cultural thing than a grammar thing).

ZeroWolf wrote:I'm more interested in those collab and select listing like the $299.99 one. I know there's been rumours of the guardian robot coming from Siege Omega but could they be adding anything else?

It's the guardian robot with nothing more, 299.99 is just how much standard titans cost in Canada now (just like how deluxes were 29.99 when they were 19.99 in the US)

Sabrblade wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:Dammit. I already have siege Magnus with dna upgrade but if that commander Magnus is good I'll have to get it!!! lol

I skipped 86 grimlock because I have MP but SG version would be cool if it's anything like the customs and digibashes I've seen. Probably gonna cost an arm and a leg though

Commander Magnus? SG Grimlock? What?

Scroll up.

I was so busy reading the codes I didn't read william-james' explanation above that. Silly me.

More to the point, which Nemesis will the Titan be based on?

A Titan Nemesis would be interesting to see. Basing it on the ship in the tv show would be a challenge. That ship was a lot more spindly than the ark, with lots of tapered extensions and whatnot.

I think we have an idea what it's going to look like, based on the Nemesis showing up on Legacy Metroplex's box. I know it doesn't have to be that design, but it's a general idea.

A quick google later and it seems like the Beast Wars/Dreamwave Nemesis is the winner, potentially?



It will be interesting to see how/where the cross wings are integrated into the bot design.

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Magnus is just a rumor, but who else could be commander-sized in SS86? A proper Astrotrain maybe?

I'm definitely intrigued by the Nemesis, hopefully they will give him an intimidating, menacing robot mode.

Word on the street is that the Nemesis is a her.

If the bot mode actually have a feminine appearance and is not just a "her" for clout-points, I'll be all for it.

I'll be able to ship both ships together!

It wouldnt be for Clout points, regardless, as Nemesis is a female name. And ships tend to be gendered female in English (more a cultural thing than a grammar thing).

ZeroWolf wrote:I'm more interested in those collab and select listing like the $299.99 one. I know there's been rumours of the guardian robot coming from Siege Omega but could they be adding anything else?

It's the guardian robot with nothing more, 299.99 is just how much standard titans cost in Canada now (just like how deluxes were 29.99 when they were 19.99 in the US)

Ah I thought that was US Dollars, missed the part about it being Canadian.

Have we had any rumours about forthcoming collabs?

I think the design between all versions of the Nemesis (except for the Aligned Continuity/Trypticon) are basically the same. If the toy comes out in 2023, and it looks basically like it does on any of the the box art for the last couple of years, whether people want to call it the original, or from BW, or from the comics, its all basically the same.

What I thought was interesting though was, in the few times the Nemesis & Ark have been seen together, they are *roughly* the same size, or at least in the ballpark, with the Nemesis probably being longer in some dimensions, but probably overall not more than 10-20% larger than The Ark.

For WFC specifically however, the Nemesis is HUUUUUGE!!!! (I only know this from purchasing the artbook from the series, since the ships never were on screen in the same frame with any sense of scale IIRC)

Obviously, the Titan for 2023, will probably be in scale with the others. However if it was made to have a slightly taller Robot Mode than The Ark, that would not be inaccurate.

If Hasbro makes the ship female, she's definitely got a lot of junk in the trunk.

Also, it appears there are at least 2 more selects coming besides the Omega Sentinel. They appear to be deluxes if my CAD prices are correct. All the Diaclone updates have been nice, but it would be nice to see something different as well. I dont see a Leader Selects on that List. So Cryotek from TM2 Megatron still isn't confirmed yet, unless its later revealed as a retailer exclusive.

ZeroWolf wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Magnus is just a rumor, but who else could be commander-sized in SS86? A proper Astrotrain maybe?

I'm definitely intrigued by the Nemesis, hopefully they will give him an intimidating, menacing robot mode.

Word on the street is that the Nemesis is a her.

If the bot mode actually have a feminine appearance and is not just a "her" for clout-points, I'll be all for it.

I'll be able to ship both ships together!

It wouldnt be for Clout points, regardless, as Nemesis is a female name. And ships tend to be gendered female in English (more a cultural thing than a grammar thing).

ZeroWolf wrote:I'm more interested in those collab and select listing like the $299.99 one. I know there's been rumours of the guardian robot coming from Siege Omega but could they be adding anything else?

It's the guardian robot with nothing more, 299.99 is just how much standard titans cost in Canada now (just like how deluxes were 29.99 when they were 19.99 in the US)

Ah I thought that was US Dollars, missed the part about it being Canadian.

Have we had any rumours about forthcoming collabs?

There is a "bear" crossover TF and those collab prices could simply be the streetfighter sets which have yet to be released in Canada.

o.supreme wrote:I think the design between all versions of the Nemesis (except for the Aligned Continuity/Trypticon) are basically the same.

Oh, and, here's Animated's Nemesis, just to round off the ones with the traditional look:

SS Commander intrigues me.

While I can understand it being SS-86 Magnus, part of me wonders if Hasbro isn't doing an actual SS-86 Prime in Commander Class.

By all accounts Earthrise Prime is pretty much SS-86 Prime, but one can argue the same thing about Kingdom Magnus.

The Commander Class is puzzling, as they have proven they can make a Magnus in Leader Class, and it still works fine. Not sure I can find any valid reason for it being Commander Class. However as has been pointed out, there's no other character in the 1986 movie that would technically fit the price class.

If this were a new G1 Prime mold that is both larger and more detailed, that could be used as a Magnus inner robot, it might make a bit more sense. Maybe Magnus is the pretool to a brand new Prime.


I just don't see them doing another Magnus this soon and not a Prime too.

Of course there's always the possibility it's just Kingdom Magnus with a bunch of accessories to make up the price difference.

The collabs there are also interesting. 2 through 6, which implies 1 is already released in Canada?

Also, what is an "Animatronic Changer" for Rise of the Beasts?

Rodimus Prime wrote:Magnus is just a rumor, but who else could be commander-sized in SS86? A proper Astrotrain maybe?

I'll take Astrotrain as a doghouse-sized shuttle that can fit CW Devastator

Another Ultra Magnus is not exciting. I really like the character and his design but wow, it's too much lately.

Overcracker wrote:SS Commander intrigues me.

While I can understand it being SS-86 Magnus, part of me wonders if Hasbro isn't doing an actual SS-86 Prime in Commander Class.

By all accounts Earthrise Prime is pretty much SS-86 Prime, but one can argue the same thing about Kingdom Magnus.

The Commander Class is puzzling, as they have proven they can make a Magnus in Leader Class, and it still works fine. Not sure I can find any valid reason for it being Commander Class. However as has been pointed out, there's no other character in the 1986 movie that would technically fit the price class.

If this were a new G1 Prime mold that is both larger and more detailed, that could be used as a Magnus inner robot, it might make a bit more sense. Maybe Magnus is the pretool to a brand new Prime.


I just don't see them doing another Magnus this soon and not a Prime too.

Of course there's always the possibility it's just Kingdom Magnus with a bunch of accessories to make up the price difference.

The collabs there are also interesting. 2 through 6, which implies 1 is already released in Canada?

Also, what is an "Animatronic Changer" for Rise of the Beasts?

Unless it's a magnus with a g1 accurate trailer

Commander class will just be animated prowl with his side car or maybe they are going more in scale for the G1 dinobots

If it were Titan class I may have joked it was a transforming autobot city playset

Also I wouldn't expect a white prime from ss86 ultra magnus, as pointed out, there wasn't one in the toon

Sabrblade wrote:bunch of pics

Well that first one is Planet Nemesis from BWII (not a ship, not even the same thing). We've already covered Trypticon in the Aligned continuity, and the rest of those I have no idea what they are, so it doesn't really matter.

The point still stands, when you ask Transformers fans "what is the Nemesis" the image that comes to mind is:



Or some slight variation thereof, and that is likely what the toy will look like in Ship Mode, according to Box Art from the past few Generations toy lines.

That makes one Magnus release ever years for the last several, so yeah that's overkill. Granted they have all been from different sources but still, and this one is SS86 which means it's just Kingdom in essence. A new trailer isn't enough to justify another $50+ to buy another version.

I wouldn't mind a better more improved Astrotrain, I just don't know that they can ever truly deliver it being that he's a triplechanger. I mean look at Blitzwing, and I like it for the most part.

I think I'm entering a phase where I'll likely dip out of this line as I'm not interested in ROTB and so far nothing seems to be coming that interests me. Between the Cosmos issue and Hound not turning out like I wanted those two long sought after updates are a wash.

Those prices did have me for a minute before seeing it was CAD, I'm like $35 for DLX I'm out! lol

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:bunch of pics

Well that first one is Planet Nemesis from BWII (not a ship, not even the same thing).

It's an artificial planet. It flies through space on a plotted course controlled by living operators. It may have a rocky exterior, but inside are rooms and corridors with floors, walls, and ceilings made of metal. There's even an engine room. It's a vessel.

o.supreme wrote:We've already covered Trypticon in the Aligned continuity, and the rest of those I have no idea what they are, so it doesn't really matter.

Movie Nemesis, ROTF Nemesis, Titans Return Nemesis, and Cyberverse Nemesis.

Armada Prime is coming!
With Starscream out and and a rumored Megatron in the future, I'm hyped!

Day 1088 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

o.supreme wrote:
The point still stands, when you ask Transformers fans "what is the Nemesis" the image that comes to mind is:

But when you ask hasbro.... it's just the guns that come with WFC galvatron