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News Credits: 12 · by **Sentinel_Primal** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:22 pm

Just realized, Armada Prime might not come with his Mini-Con... I'm hoping since he's a commander, we might get both (Jolt and Over-Run), but following the trend of Hot Shot and Starscream, I doubt it

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:26 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:To be honest, as far as Spreem is concerned. I saw Selects potential in this one:

Forget Spreem, that Tarn would make an excellent War Within Megatron. Silver instead of purple, swap the head. Done.

News Credits: 12 · by **Razorbeast88** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:50 pm

I'd imagine if the CC figure was another Optimus, the differences between this one and earthrise would be like the differences between mp10 and the latest mp Prime. More toon accuracy, better engineering, better trailer, that sort of thing. And I'd be all for that. ER Prime is good, but leaves something to be desired. The recent holiday Prime has a more toon looking Prime head than the ER one I think

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:41 pm

Razorbeast88 wrote:I'd imagine if the CC figure was another Optimus, the differences between this one and earthrise would be like the differences between mp10 and the latest mp Prime. More toon accuracy, better engineering, better trailer, that sort of thing. And I'd be all for that. ER Prime is good, but leaves something to be desired. The recent holiday Prime has a more toon looking Prime head than the ER one I think

Considering that the Commander class toy is of Armada Optimus, it rightly shouldn't look anything like G1 Optimus at all.

News Credits: 12 · by **Razorbeast88** » Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:50 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:I'd imagine if the CC figure was another Optimus, the differences between this one and earthrise would be like the differences between mp10 and the latest mp Prime. More toon accuracy, better engineering, better trailer, that sort of thing. And I'd be all for that. ER Prime is good, but leaves something to be desired. The recent holiday Prime has a more toon looking Prime head than the ER one I think
Considering that the Commander class toy is of Armada Optimus, it rightly shouldn't look anything like G1 Optimus at all.

Sorry for the misunderstanding, I meant the rumored ss86 commander figure. Had that discussion already moved threads?

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:43 am

Nemesis Primal wrote:-The BB SS 2-pack should be a Deluxe and a Voyager based off pricing

The Canadian pricing makes it 2 deluxes. JT Prime is unaware of this set's contents afaik

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:22 am

william-james88 wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:-The BB SS 2-pack should be a Deluxe and a Voyager based off pricing

The Canadian pricing makes it 2 deluxes. JT Prime is unaware of this set's contents afaik

Are all BB figures TRU exclusives in Canada? That seems awfully low for two Deluxe figures there.

Emerje

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:47 am

Emerje wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:-The BB SS 2-pack should be a Deluxe and a Voyager based off pricing

The Canadian pricing makes it 2 deluxes. JT Prime is unaware of this set's contents afaik

Are all BB figures TRU exclusives in Canada? That seems awfully low for two Deluxe figures there.

Emerje

76 for for a deluxe 2 pack at TRU makes sense.

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:38 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:To be honest, as far as Spreem is concerned. I saw Selects potential in this one:

Forget Spreem, that Tarn would make an excellent War Within Megatron. Silver instead of purple, swap the head. Done.

They certainly picked a mold with a lot more retool potential, than initially perceived.

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sat Dec 24, 2022 5:53 am

william-james88 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:-The BB SS 2-pack should be a Deluxe and a Voyager based off pricing

The Canadian pricing makes it 2 deluxes. JT Prime is unaware of this set's contents afaik

Are all BB figures TRU exclusives in Canada? That seems awfully low for two Deluxe figures there.

Emerje

76 for for a deluxe 2 pack at TRU makes sense.

Are you sure about that?
I wouldn't be surprised if it's a deluxe and a Core.
It's TrU after all.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Sat Dec 24, 2022 11:23 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:-The BB SS 2-pack should be a Deluxe and a Voyager based off pricing

The Canadian pricing makes it 2 deluxes. JT Prime is unaware of this set's contents afaik

Are all BB figures TRU exclusives in Canada? That seems awfully low for two Deluxe figures there.

Emerje

76 for for a deluxe 2 pack at TRU makes sense.

Are you sure about that?
I wouldn't be surprised if it's a deluxe and a Core.
It's TrU after all.

Yes, 100% sure, TRU is more reasonable (aka closer to a normal price) on Buzzworthy multipacks.

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:53 pm

william-james88 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:-The BB SS 2-pack should be a Deluxe and a Voyager based off pricing

The Canadian pricing makes it 2 deluxes. JT Prime is unaware of this set's contents afaik

Are all BB figures TRU exclusives in Canada? That seems awfully low for two Deluxe figures there.

Emerje

76 for for a deluxe 2 pack at TRU makes sense.

Are you sure about that?
I wouldn't be surprised if it's a deluxe and a Core.
It's TrU after all.

Yes, 100% sure, TRU is more reasonable (aka closer to a normal price) on Buzzworthy multipacks.

So far, only the Generations 4 pack and the SS 2 packs followed that pattern. The Cyberverse deluxes 3 packs are another story, jumping the previous 30$CAN a deluxe to 40$CAN a deluxe.

https://www.toysrus.ca/en/Transformers- ... 2888B.html

So I wouldn't dismiss the possible TrU surcharge yet.

News Credits: 11 · by **Overcracker** » Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:35 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Overcracker wrote:While I can understand it being SS-86 Magnus, part of me wonders if Hasbro isn't doing an actual SS-86 Prime in Commander Class. By all accounts Earthrise Prime is pretty much SS-86 Prime, but one can argue the same thing about Kingdom Magnus.
I slightly disagree. The mechanics of Prime and Magnus would be different, if either or both were done in commander class. Prime would still be Prime (Probably wouldn't even change the base bot, it's pretty spot-on) but the trailer would be spruced up a lot, to the point it would function as his death bed from the infamous movie scene.

Magnus on the other hand would be a bigger, better, G1-ified CW Magnus, where the trailer would not separate from the cab, it would just all transform together. With a trailer that's actually big enough to carry the deluxe cars. That kind of engineering and parts count would warrant the commander price.

Having said that, I still like Kingdom Magnus very much and he's currently on my movie shelf, but he needs to be taller to be in accurate scale with everyone else.

A commander Magnus would make sense as a pretool to the next Powermaster Prime, assuming Hasbro doesn't feel that the market is saturated with Armada Prime on the way.

I still think a proper Astrotrain can be achieved in commander class. The higher price point would help both the design and the scale.

Perhaps, I can’t disagree. I just don’t see Hasbro spending the money on a brand new Magnus mold in Commander price class, and not want to get some kind of Optimus Prime out of it.

Magnus is really the only one that makes sense. Astrotrain is a possibility, but I just can’t see them going more expensive than Blitzwing for him, and the Siege mold is still there and is o.k. Not great, but passable.

But it keeps bugging me that it would technically be the fifth Magnus in what.. 3 years? Siege, Netflix, Kingdom, SG Selects. How much audience is there for Magnus? Magnus Saturation?

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Just realized, Armada Prime might not come with his Mini-Con... I'm hoping since he's a commander, we might get both (Jolt and Over-Run), but following the trend of Hot Shot and Starscream, I doubt it

You mean Sparkplug? I’d love both Over-Run and Sparky to be included with Prime.

News Credits: 12 · by **Sentinel_Primal** » Sat Dec 24, 2022 5:02 pm

Overcracker wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:Just realized, Armada Prime might not come with his Mini-Con... I'm hoping since he's a commander, we might get both (Jolt and Over-Run), but following the trend of Hot Shot and Starscream, I doubt it

You mean Sparkplug? I’d love both Over-Run and Sparky to be included with Prime.

That's the one, yep! Only Mini-Cons whose names I can actually remember are Leader-1, Over-Run, and Run-Over, and the last two are just because I know they came with Bendy and Nemesis, just need to think which is more evil sounding :lol:

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Sun Dec 25, 2022 5:03 am

Overcracker wrote:I just don’t see Hasbro spending the money on a brand new Magnus mold in Commander price class, and not want to get some kind of Optimus Prime out of it.

Hence my suggestion of either or both SS86 Prime and a new Powermaster Prime. Regardless of which way they design Magnus (with or without white Prime inside) there can be an Optimus made out if it. With PM Prime they would have to cheat a bit in order to make the cab separate from the trailer, and the trailer have to be retooled, but it can be done, pretty much like Galaxy Prime came from Siege Magnus.

Magnus is really the only one that makes sense. Astrotrain is a possibility, but I just can’t see them going more expensive than Blitzwing for him, and the Siege mold is still there and is o.k. Not great, but passable.

Yeah, 2 good modes out of 3 is what we can expect at leader prices (the train mode for Astrotrain and the jet mode for Blitzwing are both giant failures) but I firmly believe that at commander price we would've gotten better engineering and a decent 3rd mode even if the figure itself stayed the same size.

But it keeps bugging me that it would technically be the fifth Magnus in what.. 3 years? Siege, Netflix, Kingdom, SG Selects. How much audience is there for Magnus? Magnus Saturation?

I agree that it's a big ask by Hasbro, but if it's not Astrotrain, then who else? It has to be Magnus, unless it is indeed SS86 Optimus with a snazzy trailer. And if it was Magnus, technically it would count as a new figure with a new mold, whereas all the Magnus versions you mentioned came from the same mold with slight variations.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Sun Dec 25, 2022 8:10 am

Overcracker wrote:But it keeps bugging me that it would technically be the fifth Magnus in what.. 3 years? Siege, Netflix, Kingdom, SG Selects. How much audience is there for Magnus? Magnus Saturation?

Sixth in five years.

2019: Siege
2020: Netflix
2021: Earthrise, Premium Finish
2022: Shattered Glass
2023: Legacy Evolution

I've got the first five and I'll buy this one, too. It'd only be replacing the Earthrise figure in my collection. The Siege figure would remain my Cybertronian mode figure, LE would be my Earth mode. PF I consider the consider a Decepticon version of the character, but separate from SG which has his own place. Netflix is just a bonus dead guy.

Emerje

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Dec 25, 2022 8:29 am

Emerje wrote:
Overcracker wrote:But it keeps bugging me that it would technically be the fifth Magnus in what.. 3 years? Siege, Netflix, Kingdom, SG Selects. How much audience is there for Magnus? Magnus Saturation?

Sixth in five years.

2019: Siege
2020: Netflix
2021: Earthrise, Premium Finish
2022: Shattered Glass
2023: Legacy Evolution

I've got the first five and I'll buy this one, too. It'd only be replacing the Earthrise figure in my collection. The Siege figure would remain my Cybertronian mode figure, LE would be my Earth mode. PF I consider the consider a Decepticon version of the character, but separate from SG which has his own place. Netflix is just a bonus dead guy.

Emerje

The 6th is still unconfirmed. But if it is, it should be its own original mold, similar to the CW leader. No independent small white "Optimus", a "mini MP" in one block, no partsforming.

If this happen, I'll be all over it.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Sun Dec 25, 2022 8:51 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Overcracker wrote:But it keeps bugging me that it would technically be the fifth Magnus in what.. 3 years? Siege, Netflix, Kingdom, SG Selects. How much audience is there for Magnus? Magnus Saturation?

Sixth in five years.

2019: Siege
2020: Netflix
2021: Earthrise, Premium Finish
2022: Shattered Glass
2023: Legacy Evolution

I've got the first five and I'll buy this one, too. It'd only be replacing the Earthrise figure in my collection. The Siege figure would remain my Cybertronian mode figure, LE would be my Earth mode. PF I consider the consider a Decepticon version of the character, but separate from SG which has his own place. Netflix is just a bonus dead guy.

Emerje

The 6th is still unconfirmed. But if it is, it should be its own original mold, similar to the CW leader. No independent small white "Optimus", a "mini MP" in one block, no partsforming.

If this happen, I'll be all over it.

That's exactly what I'm expecting. We've never had a Commander before that shared parts from a previous figure from another price class before.

Emerje

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun Dec 25, 2022 9:01 am

Just a note though it isn't Legacy evolution its SS86

Legacy Evolution is going to Armada Prime.

Shame the commander price doesn't match 6 deluxes or you could have guessed Devestator

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Dec 25, 2022 9:38 am

Emerje wrote:
Overcracker wrote:But it keeps bugging me that it would technically be the fifth Magnus in what.. 3 years? Siege, Netflix, Kingdom, SG Selects. How much audience is there for Magnus? Magnus Saturation?

Sixth in five years.

2019: Siege
2020: Netflix
2021: Earthrise, Premium Finish
2022: Shattered Glass
2023: Legacy Evolution

I've got the first five and I'll buy this one, too. It'd only be replacing the Earthrise figure in my collection. The Siege figure would remain my Cybertronian mode figure, LE would be my Earth mode. PF I consider the consider a Decepticon version of the character, but separate from SG which has his own place. Netflix is just a bonus dead guy.

Emerje

You mean Kingdom, not Earthrise.

by **rairakku16** » Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:11 am

Man I am so excited for the Junkions. Assuming the poster is accurate it looks like we are getting a muscle car Junkion. Sounds awesome, I might get two (one for myself and the other for me to customise into Lockdown). Interestingly the muscle car appears to be based off a 60s Camaro too.

News Credits: 11 · by **Overcracker** » Sun Dec 25, 2022 5:16 pm

Emerje wrote:
Overcracker wrote:But it keeps bugging me that it would technically be the fifth Magnus in what.. 3 years? Siege, Netflix, Kingdom, SG Selects. How much audience is there for Magnus? Magnus Saturation?

Sixth in five years.

2019: Siege
2020: Netflix
2021: Earthrise Kingdom?, Premium Finish
2022: Shattered Glass
2023: Legacy Evolution (Wait… what is this?)

I've got the first five and I'll buy this one, too. It'd only be replacing the Earthrise figure in my collection. The Siege figure would remain my Cybertronian mode figure, LE would be my Earth mode. PF I consider the consider a Decepticon version of the character, but separate from SG which has his own place. Netflix is just a bonus dead guy.

Emerje

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun Dec 25, 2022 5:18 pm

Overcracker wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Overcracker wrote:But it keeps bugging me that it would technically be the fifth Magnus in what.. 3 years? Siege, Netflix, Kingdom, SG Selects. How much audience is there for Magnus? Magnus Saturation?

Sixth in five years.

2019: Siege
2020: Netflix
2021: Earthrise Kingdom?, Premium Finish
2022: Shattered Glass
2023: Legacy Evolution (Wait… what is this?)

I've got the first five and I'll buy this one, too. It'd only be replacing the Earthrise figure in my collection. The Siege figure would remain my Cybertronian mode figure, LE would be my Earth mode. PF I consider the consider a Decepticon version of the character, but separate from SG which has his own place. Netflix is just a bonus dead guy.

Emerje

I think he meant Studio Series 86

News Credits: 11 · by **Overcracker** » Sun Dec 25, 2022 5:19 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:
Overcracker wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Overcracker wrote:But it keeps bugging me that it would technically be the fifth Magnus in what.. 3 years? Siege, Netflix, Kingdom, SG Selects. How much audience is there for Magnus? Magnus Saturation?

Sixth in five years.

2019: Siege
2020: Netflix
2021: Earthrise Kingdom?, Premium Finish
2022: Shattered Glass
2023: Legacy Evolution (Wait… what is this?)

I've got the first five and I'll buy this one, too. It'd only be replacing the Earthrise figure in my collection. The Siege figure would remain my Cybertronian mode figure, LE would be my Earth mode. PF I consider the consider a Decepticon version of the character, but separate from SG which has his own place. Netflix is just a bonus dead guy.

Emerje

I think he meant Studio Series 86

Ahh, o.k.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Sun Dec 25, 2022 9:50 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:Just a note though it isn't Legacy evolution its SS86 Legacy Evolution is going to Armada Prime.

Sabrblade wrote:You mean Kingdom, not Earthrise.

Man, nothing scrambles your brain quite like Christmas! At that point I'd only slept a total of nine hours since Thursday, worked Saturday night, and still had four more hours to go before I could get any decent sleep (5 whole hours, wheeee!), and now I'm leaving for work again. Gotta love the holidays!

Emerje