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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Ironhidensh » Mon May 06, 2019 6:18 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:At the rate they're going, Hound will be MP-50



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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Nemesis Destron » Tue May 07, 2019 2:47 pm

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I was scouring on eBay to see what MP-10SG is going for. So I'm sorry if this is an overkill question but what is the current count of this favored MP-10 mold? :???: Thanks in advance party people. :VEHI:
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Tue May 07, 2019 6:00 pm

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Nemesis Destron wrote:I was scouring on eBay to see what MP-10SG is going for. So I'm sorry if this is an overkill question but what is the current count of this favored MP-10 mold? :???: Thanks in advance party people. :VEHI:


Now, I assume you mean the Shattered Glass version of MP-10. BBTS is selling that for $99.99 brand new, so anything above that is overpriced IMO

Here'sa link to the BBTS page for reference
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue May 07, 2019 6:47 pm

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Blackalekthor wrote:Hello dear Bots. I'm planning to buy my first Masterpiece figure, so I'm in need of your wisdom.

What's the best online site to make a purchase? (Shipping internationally), and better, What's the best site to pre-order the beautiful BlackWidow MP-46 when the time arrives?

Thank you so much for your help.

I would have to say that Amazon Japan is your best bet. Great prices, fast shipping, and the shipping is really cheap too. That would be where I would go.

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby sol magnus » Sat May 11, 2019 12:59 pm

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Ironhidensh wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:At the rate they're going, Hound will be MP-50



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It's definitely odd that a fully painted prototype has been shown before other things and yet he keeps getting pushed back. Maybe there's a production issue.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sat May 11, 2019 2:12 pm

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sol magnus wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:At the rate they're going, Hound will be MP-50



Issa sum bulllsheet.


It's definitely odd that a fully painted prototype has been shown before other things and yet he keeps getting pushed back. Maybe there's a production issue.


Or maybe TakaraTomy wanted to release the more hyped characters first. You'll note he didn't have a number when displayed at Wonder Festival Summer 2018:

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...and AFAIK he still doesn't. Possibly, he'll be released after Black Widow.

On the side, not the first time Hound got the shaft: his Kreon can tell you stories about that ;)
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Sat May 11, 2019 10:51 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:...and AFAIK he still doesn't.
He's MP-47:

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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun May 12, 2019 4:18 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Or maybe TakaraTomy wanted to release the more hyped characters first. You'll note he didn't have a number when displayed at Wonder Festival Summer 2018:

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It seems ridiculous to look at his image from 2018, wherein Hound looks as complete as Sunstreaker and Sideswipe behind him. To the left, Overpriced Prime was still at grey prototype stage and Blackarachnia wasn't even that far along. Poor Hound (and Hound fans, by extension)...
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon May 13, 2019 5:17 pm

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Yeah, Hound has been done a disservice lately. Not sure why he keeps getting pushed back like this. He was in colors long before Bee and Blackarachnia were revealed, he should be before at least BA
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sun May 19, 2019 8:41 am

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So with all the talk about Blackarachnia, I wanna talk about Beast Wars Fembots and Mold adaptation.


Airazor
Thanks to the Japanese ..interpretation, We have a dual gender character :HEADHURTS:
Now, BA's aesthetic was clearly feminine by design. Airazor was not.

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Other than her show model face, her Bot Mode is completely androgynous. I doubt they would do more than address this with an extra removable face, when it comes to potentially differentiating between Western and Japanese releases?

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As an aside, now we've seen BA's size, we know comparisons like this aren't realistically going to exist.
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So officially, there will be two Fembots in the MP Beast Wars line. Visually, one.

But... then there is the nebulous area of redecos and retools.

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With Inferno, there is a unique redeco in the form of Antagony. However, should Takara create MP Antagony, there is a choice to make, as she never appeared in a show.

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Straight up redeco, akin to MP Shadow Panther, or a distinctly feminine retool, based on her artwork instead?

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With the rise in popularity of Fembot releases in recent years, it is hard to tell how far HasTak will go, however when it comes to such retools within the MP line.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun May 19, 2019 2:43 pm

That MP Hound is...ugly. :SICK: :SICK: :SICK:
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Sun May 19, 2019 5:52 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:That MP Hound is...ugly. :SICK: :SICK: :SICK:


Maybe that's why they delayed him?

I would love to see some chrome on him if I'm honest, cuz that would definitely help his appearance.

I dont know if I find him "ugly" though, just in need of some improvements.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sun May 19, 2019 11:47 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:That MP Hound is...ugly. :SICK: :SICK: :SICK:


Maybe that's why they delayed him?

I would love to see some chrome on him if I'm honest, cuz that would definitely help his appearance.

I dont know if I find him "ugly" though, just in need of some improvements.


Uh, ugly how? He looks like he stepped right out of an animation cell from the original Sunbow cartoon. That's Takara's jam with Masterpiece right now. Hound looks perfect with almost no kibble showing that shouldn't be there. The colors and details are spot on for screen accuracy. If you want him in original toy colors with chrome and extra paint details, then you're out of luck, at least for now. Maybe they'll do a "+" version with a toy accurate deco in a few years, if they finally get around to releasing the standard version of this figure, that is.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Mon May 20, 2019 4:18 am

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Wolfman Jake wrote:
Nathaniel Prime wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:That MP Hound is...ugly. :SICK: :SICK: :SICK:


Maybe that's why they delayed him?

I would love to see some chrome on him if I'm honest, cuz that would definitely help his appearance.

I dont know if I find him "ugly" though, just in need of some improvements.


Uh, ugly how? He looks like he stepped right out of an animation cell from the original Sunbow cartoon. That's Takara's jam with Masterpiece right now. Hound looks perfect with almost no kibble showing that shouldn't be there. The colors and details are spot on for screen accuracy. If you want him in original toy colors with chrome and extra paint details, then you're out of luck, at least for now. Maybe they'll do a "+" version with a toy accurate deco in a few years, if they finally get around to releasing the standard version of this figure, that is.


Yeah, I agree, he looks as he should, and I love that. I just thought some chrome on him would be nice, but I would rather have this release instead than not have anything at all ;)
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Mon May 20, 2019 1:07 pm

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Let's be honest, aesthetically he looks as boxy and outdated as the rest of the pre-Movie Transformers, that Takara is stagnating this line with. It is the 35th Anniversary this year, maybe we can move away from slavish devotion to the first three and focus on the other 32?

I'm sure there are a far greater number of fans now, that didn't jump onto the series with G1. So maybe it is time for some MP Car Robots, MP Unicron Trilogy or MP Animated, for example, to cater to them instead??
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Mon May 20, 2019 2:20 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Let's be honest, aesthetically he looks as boxy and outdated as the rest of the pre-Movie Transformers, that Takara is stagnating this line with. It is the 35th Anniversary this year, maybe we can move away from slavish devotion to the first three and focus on the other 32?

I'm sure there are a far greater number of fans now, that didn't jump onto the series with G1. So maybe it is time for some MP Car Robots, MP Unicron Trilogy or MP Animated, for example, to cater to them instead??


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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Mon May 20, 2019 2:24 pm

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True. Yet, then again, it is the 20th anniversary of Car Robots next year. Early to mid 20 somethings should have the cash to burn.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Mon May 20, 2019 4:26 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Early to mid 20 somethings should have the cash to burn.

Not if they keep paying for all that avocado toast.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby Ironhidensh » Mon May 20, 2019 6:01 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:True. Yet, then again, it is the 20th anniversary of Car Robots next year. Early to mid 20 somethings should have the cash to burn.



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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:True. Yet, then again, it is the 20th anniversary of Car Robots next year. Early to mid 20 somethings should have the cash to burn.



Not compared to late 30s to early 40s geasers.


*high five* (Do people still do that?)

In all seriousness, though, the early to mid 20-somethings, the "Millennial" generation, aren't doing as well in terms of wage and salary earnings as their parents' generation, so that is a lot less disposable income for frivolous indulgences for people who's first exposure to Transformers may have been The Unicron Trilogy.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Tue May 21, 2019 7:47 am

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I think it wouldn't hurt for them to test the water though. A single release, MP Hot Shot or MP Demolishor? People were receptive to MP Beast Wars releases, so it stands to reason should they get a better than expected reception to MP Car Robots/Unicron Trilogy/Animated, to put G1 and all its licensing issues, to one side and push forward with representation from the rest of the series rich history.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Tue May 21, 2019 8:03 am

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I think it wouldn't hurt for them to test the water though.


It would sure hurt my ears from all the G1 Whining that takara has pushed back what could be a new release for a G1 character. I hear it enough everytime a Beast Wars MP is revealed.

But aside from that, sure.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Tue May 21, 2019 8:05 am

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True enough. But they just seem to be going around in circles with the G1 line now? It must be so frustrating to those invested in those releases.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Tue May 21, 2019 8:13 am

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:True enough. But they just seem to be going around in circles with the G1 line now? It must be so frustrating to those invested in those releases.


I agree.

We'll be seeing that again when they reveal the next MP Seeker mold.
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Re: Transformers Masterpiece: General Discussion

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Tue May 21, 2019 8:20 am

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william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:True enough. But they just seem to be going around in circles with the G1 line now? It must be so frustrating to those invested in those releases.


I agree.

We'll be seeing that again when they reveal the next MP Seeker mold.



:shock: Seekers... Again!? #-o

Maybe a massive overhaul of the entire MP line release structure is exactly what is needed. By limiting G1 releases to one in four, it will force them to actually put effort back into the line and add to it, instead of repeating existing figures?

G1 -> BW -> UT -> Movie.

Rinse and repeat, swapping out 'Movie' for one offs and/or poll results such as Star Saber.
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