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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:31 am

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:lol:

In all honesty though, unless I read MP-43 Galvatron ( :BOWDOWN: ), I'm not overly concerned who is the missing number is, in as much as I am sure it is someone.
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Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:34 am

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In other news, that sure is a mess of kibble on Megatron's back, alright.

https://twitter.com/transchange/status/1004988920218521600

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:40 am

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Sabrblade wrote:In other news, that sure is a mess of kibble on Megatron's back, alright.

https://twitter.com/transchange/status/1004988920218521600

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:shock: Woooo

The Maximal designs should be the only ones with that much overt kibble. The only visible kibble on this form of Megs should be the two halves of the T-Rex midsection, which isn't that big surely :???:
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Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:21 am

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Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:34 am

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I mean, he is supposed to have a backpack of kibble anyway. This one's just not as streamlined as it could have been hoped to be.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:17 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:Meh, not a deal breaker for me, I'm not going to pose him showing his back to the world. I'm going to trust the designers on knowing where they are going on this



Sabrblade wrote:I mean, he is supposed to have a backpack of kibble anyway. This one's just not as streamlined as it could have been hoped to be.



Indeed. Still he will look odd next to the other Season One Predacons, who all should have very little kibble (other than Waspinator).
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Postby Nemesis Maximo » Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:21 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:Meh, not a deal breaker for me, I'm not going to pose him showing his back to the world. I'm going to trust the designers on knowing where they are going on this



Sabrblade wrote:I mean, he is supposed to have a backpack of kibble anyway. This one's just not as streamlined as it could have been hoped to be.



Indeed. Still he will look odd next to the other Season One Predacons, who all should have very little kibble (other than Waspinator).

That’s a pretty bold speculation, considering the amount of proportion-change happening with Tarantulas, Scorponok, Blackarachnia, Terrorsaur...
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:26 am

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Meh, not a deal breaker for me, I'm not going to pose him showing his back to the world. I'm going to trust the designers on knowing where they are going on this



Sabrblade wrote:I mean, he is supposed to have a backpack of kibble anyway. This one's just not as streamlined as it could have been hoped to be.



Indeed. Still he will look odd next to the other Season One Predacons, who all should have very little kibble (other than Waspinator).

That’s a pretty bold speculation, considering the amount of proportion-change happening with Tarantulas, Scorponok, Blackarachnia, Terrorsaur...


Well not really. The aim of Takara for this line is show accuracy. The examples you gave only really sport arachnid legs as kibble. Terrorsaur, on the other hand, has none on display. Which will be really interesting to see. Megatron and Waspinator (you could technically argue Inferno) are the only ones with kibble backpacks in Season One.
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Postby Nemesis Maximo » Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:56 am

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Meh, not a deal breaker for me, I'm not going to pose him showing his back to the world. I'm going to trust the designers on knowing where they are going on this



Sabrblade wrote:I mean, he is supposed to have a backpack of kibble anyway. This one's just not as streamlined as it could have been hoped to be.



Indeed. Still he will look odd next to the other Season One Predacons, who all should have very little kibble (other than Waspinator).

That’s a pretty bold speculation, considering the amount of proportion-change happening with Tarantulas, Scorponok, Blackarachnia, Terrorsaur...


Well not really. The aim of Takara for this line is show accuracy. The examples you gave only really sport arachnid legs as kibble. Terrorsaur, on the other hand, has none on display. Which will be really interesting to see. Megatron and Waspinator (you could technically argue Inferno) are the only ones with kibble backpacks in Season One.

What about the Spider Thoraxes for Tarantulas and Blackarahnia? Scorponk’s Beast Mode Legs? Those things are gonna hafta go somewhere.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:56 pm

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To be fair, the original toys made a good job of that. Whereas many of the Maximals were shellformers, many of the Predacons were designed better. The Spider Thorax? They were the legs and actual back of the figure. Scorponok's arachnid legs tucked into his sides, just as in the show. The original toys of the Predacons matched up to the show designs really well in hindsight. Streamlined MP releases should be easy.

Terrorsaur being the one "Impossible" exception.

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As I said, he will be the one I am interested to see how it's accomplished.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:00 pm

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Emerje wrote:MP-43 will probably be the much anticipated Hoist or Trailbreaker.

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Or it could be the subtly hinted at MP Blaster. We got some new cassettes after all, he can't be too far behind. It would also make a change instead of the usual Car Bots cluttering up the line.

Blaster strikes me as one of their "tent pole" figures, something big they can release around a bunch of smaller figures. If Blaster were MP-43 he'd be coming out around the same time as the Takara Tomy Mall Shockwave and Megatron and BW Megatron and not too long after Dinobot. That's a lot of big MPs in very short time even if two of them are exclusives. Blaster is more like a mid-year release, at a time when they can also include some tape sets and a Twincast repaint.

Of course that's if this wasn't just a mistake, but we have seen numbers change before.

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Postby Nemesis Maximo » Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:49 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:To be fair, the original toys made a good job of that. Whereas many of the Maximals were shellformers, many of the Predacons were designed better. The Spider Thorax? They were the legs and actual back of the figure. Scorponok's arachnid legs tucked into his sides, just as in the show. The original toys of the Predacons matched up to the show designs really well in hindsight. Streamlined MP releases should be easy.

Terrorsaur being the one "Impossible" exception.

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As I said, he will be the one I am interested to see how it's accomplished.

Okay, I smell what you’re cookin’. Those are some fair points.

I too am curious to see how they would pull it off, don’t get me wrong. Back kibble just never bothers me.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:21 pm

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I'm thinking that for Terrorsaur they'll be taking full advantage of his wings to help fill out his bot body since they aren't used in bot mode. He probably wont look very good from underneath, though.

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Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:30 am

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Nemesis Maximo wrote:Okay, I smell what you’re cookin’. Those are some fair points.

I too am curious to see how they would pull it off, don’t get me wrong. Back kibble just never bothers me.



It's not really that it bothers me, I just wasn't expecting so much.

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I didn't think there was that much "Shell" to this form of Megatron.



Emerje wrote:I'm thinking that for Terrorsaur they'll be taking full advantage of his wings to help fill out his bot body since they aren't used in bot mode. He probably wont look very good from underneath, though.

Emerje


Yeah, I don't think the Beast Mode will look great from underneath. The thing to remember though is Terrorsaur wasn't as small as his toy. He was the third tallest Predacon, under Inferno and Megatron (fourth, if you include Dinobot) so they will have a lot more Bot to play around with. I do hope he will also come with the "enhanced" guns he had in Power Surge.
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Postby Nemesis Maximo » Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:14 am

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Nemesis Maximo wrote:Okay, I smell what you’re cookin’. Those are some fair points.

I too am curious to see how they would pull it off, don’t get me wrong. Back kibble just never bothers me.



It's not really that it bothers me, I just wasn't expecting so much.

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I didn't think there was that much "Shell" to this form of Megatron.

You’re right, he didn’t have that much shell in the cartoon.. But you can see in that animation how his beast mode sternum just disappears, and the “wings” that form on his back open up and shaped essentially just like the original toy at first, but then “mass shift” into the more streamlined shape. Unless you want partsforming, you can’t just have pieces dissolve into dissappearium. Hence, the neatly folded back kibble. And so I say, “it has to go somewhere.”
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron Discussion Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:37 am

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The Original toy.

Again, it was just torso shell flaps on his back kibble. From the images of the prototype, it just looks like a lot more of the Beast Mode is on his back than either the show or original toy. Perhaps it will look different in colour on the finished figure?
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Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:07 am

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Looking good. I see now the seam on the T-Rex head will most likely be due to electronics in the eyes and mouth. No right hand.

If anyone was in doubt, strictly speaking BW Megatron only had two hands in two forms, canonically:

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Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:29 am

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The Tokyo Toy Show is in full swing this weekend, and fresh out of the show comes our first look at the colored version of Masterpiece Beast Wars Megatron!

These new images, courtesy of Twitter users トランスフォーマー情報局 and 超偏見超変形/リベンジ, show us 2 different types of images. The first shows a promotional shot of Megatron in full color firing a blast from his Dino head in robot mode. This shows us that we will be getting blast effects, much like we are with Masterpiece Dinobot, and that his T-Rex head will be equipped with lights.

The 2nd set of images shows us Masterpiece Megatron on full display at the show, and included in his group shot are copies of Masterpiece Dinobot and Optimus Primal! No Pussycat though, boo! He is a glorious mirror image of his on-screen appearance.

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Postby kurthy » Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:38 am

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Love how he towers over everyone. He's as tall as MP-10!

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Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:43 am

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kurthy wrote:Love how he towers over everyone. He's as tall as MP-10!

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Also a quick thing for people to note. Given Megatron's overall size. In terms of scale, if HasTak do move onto Season 2 aka Transmetals, this would be about what you'd be looking at...


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Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:22 pm

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Having seen all the different masterpiece figures over the years, I have to say this: Beast Wars Megatron, in my opinion, is the best looking Masterpiece figure Takara and Hasbro have ever done.

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Postby Bucky » Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:38 pm

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Wow. Wasn’t expecting to see final colors quite so early. That’s really impressive looking.
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Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:42 pm

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That is simply amazing, takara have out done themselves...I wonder who the poor not will be to follow that act will be...
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