Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Who are all those silhouettes? I can only recognize Vector Prime in that second panel.
St. Even wrote:Cool! I wish I knew more about the thirteen. I need to do some research (any links would be helpful ).
Is Optimus Prime the "chosen one" or is that another bot? Who is the first of the first born? I assume the one to give into darkness is the Fallen (as shown clutched in Primus' (?) hand.
Delta Supreme wrote:There's the Last Autobot (G1 US Comics), Vector Prime (Cyb.) , Alpha Trion (G1) and Fallen (Flaming bot) in the montage.
I was saying a little more, till I finished waking up and realized that there's no "first Decepticon" in here...
“ We are the 13, the first, the forgotten, each of us serving a function vital to the survival of the universe. Each of us designated a Prime and given a function to serve during the long march of infinity. ”
—Vector Prime, "Vector Prime: In the Beginning"
When Primus first created Cybertron, he created a crew of thirteen living robotic beings to man him. These beings, in imitation of Unicron's transformation abilities, were able to change their forms into the likeness of vehicles, weapons, and machinery. They were the first Transformers and all "Primes".
Many of the Thirteen died in a cataclysmic first battle with Unicron, where he was sucked down into a black hole and trapped along with his acolyte known as the Fallen, one of the Thirteen who had turned against his brothers and joined Unicron.
Of those that survived many abandoned their original functions and were lost to time. Only Vector Prime is known to still be following the path he was set upon by Primus.
Note: There are other living, transforming robots created by Primus who predate the thirteen. The Covenant were made on a small moon as the test models, the prototypes as it were, for the later creation of the Transformer race, and the thirteen described here are the first (production run) of the actual race made by Primus on Cybertron. Despite the Covenant, the thirteen are frequently referred to as the "original" Transformers and so will be referred to as such here.
neliz wrote:go to transformers.wikia.com and find out what "fans" know in general about the thirteen.
http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Thirteen
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Windsweeper wrote:That's the inferior wiki. Use this wiki. It's run by the same people who used to run the old one, and has much more advanced TF information.
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