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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Arcee is further proof that the current head of MP design needs to have "STOP TRYING TO NEEDLESSLY DISAPPEAR WHEELS" stapled to his forehead.
Perhaps I should have said kibble and not just wheel, those were just on the forefront of my mind because of MP-47. In any case, the designer was desperately scrambling to avoid integrating any of the altmode into the robot mode and vice versa, not even a concession of the thighs forming part of the car aft as was done on T30 Arcee. Forget learning from 3P, they couldn't even learn from a toy they themselves did six years ago! And then tried to compress that down to a Deluxe.-Kanrabat- wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Arcee is further proof that the current head of MP design needs to have "STOP TRYING TO NEEDLESSLY DISAPPEAR WHEELS" stapled to his forehead.
You seriously think that this single step warrant all those sacrifices and odd design choices? Come on, man. It's like blaming how poorly built a house is based on what picture frames hang on the walls. This make no sense.
Transform Element OP Leader and Ocular Max Azalea both have their vehicle wheels completely disappear in bot mode. Yet both their transformations are relatively straightforward and simple and their bots have basically no kibble.
Disappearing wheels is as simple as turning a panel and or folding some panels over. It's no rocket science. MP-44 may be a bit overcomplicated, but at least he look good. This official MP Arcee is just BAD all over. You cannot blame a "single cause" when the cause is lost.
A bit baffling that this official Arcee fail so hard because the designers had so many 3P options to learn from.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Forget learning from 3P, they couldn't even learn from a toy they themselves did six years ago!
It's because of the Hyper Cartoon Accuracy At All Costs trend. The rear fenders of Arcee's car mode are entirely pink in the cartoon. And since the designer wasn't willing to concede that for the sake of better integration...-Kanrabat- wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Forget learning from 3P, they couldn't even learn from a toy they themselves did six years ago!
This. So much this.
What make the other "Arcees" work so well, even Rouge and Laea, is the fact that many of their bot parts are also part of the vehicle. Thus reducing the backpack. I can forgive the Earthrise Arcee to cheat via a "surfboard" because she's a regular retail figure with a restricted budget. But the MP have no excuse with it's "unlimited" budget.
Ultra Markus wrote:well to be honest have we ever had an official more accurate Arcee toy
yes they could have maybe should have put in the extra engineering to make her more visually appealing
but at what costi think until i see a video review ill reserve judgment
Gauntlet101010 wrote:If the 3rd party companies can make an Arcee with an accurate looking chest I don't know why Takara couldn't. I guess the designer didn't think it would bother anyone that much.
ZeroWolf wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:If the 3rd party companies can make an Arcee with an accurate looking chest I don't know why Takara couldn't. I guess the designer didn't think it would bother anyone that much.
Wasn't this the same guy who did T30 Arcee though?
Yep. The same TWO designers as the T30 mold: Yuki Ohshima (who did the aesthetic work) and Hironori Kobayashi (who did the engineering work).ZeroWolf wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:If the 3rd party companies can make an Arcee with an accurate looking chest I don't know why Takara couldn't. I guess the designer didn't think it would bother anyone that much.
Wasn't this the same guy who did T30 Arcee though?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Seibertron wrote:If anyone takes these comments out of context, I will be really upset!![]()
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:The TR Blurr redeco comes a lot closer than a Chromedome redeco (like was proposed during G1) would have.
1. Hasbro-initiated Selects toys don't have much retooling thus far, and 2. What do you call TR Arcee's new upper arms, new arm panels, new guns, and new shield then?-Kanrabat- wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:The TR Blurr redeco comes a lot closer than a Chromedome redeco (like was proposed during G1) would have.
I would REALLY have liked a pink G1 Blurr with a female face. It would have fit the spirit of the goofy robots of G1 plus the vehicle is perfect.
I did a rough digibash some years ago. Maybe I'll buy a G1 Blurr body for cheap and make the custom myself.
As for the TR version, I would have liked them to went the extra mile and make some heavy retooling. But at the time, Gen Select wasn't a thing. Maybe one day?
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:1. Hasbro-initiated Selects toys don't have much retooling thus far, and 2. What do you call TR Arcee's new upper arms, new arm panels, new guns, and new shield then?
But would they? I mean, Headmaster Arcee was a Hasbro idea to begin with..-Kanrabat- wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:1. Hasbro-initiated Selects toys don't have much retooling thus far, and 2. What do you call TR Arcee's new upper arms, new arm panels, new guns, and new shield then?
Well, the ball will be at Takara.
Yeah, those prices are ouch. Not as stupid as the CW limb prices (even if they're steeper), but still. Makes me wish there was a 3P conversion kit to customize Blurr with-Kanrabat- wrote:Also, that light Hasbro remold still make TR Arcee look like Blurr in drag.
I just HATE that Titan Return Arcee!![]()
That's what I keep telling myself since I saw those goddamn second market prices. ;__;
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One for each year of the Movieverse's decade strong tenure. Here's to a few more explosive years!
-Kanrabat- wrote:Seibertron wrote:If anyone takes these comments out of context, I will be really upset!![]()
Well, Arcee did became a... headmaster at some point. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
But seriously, I'd love to have a proper Headmaster Arcee figure. One that is not the phoned-in TR Blurr repaint.
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